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Right there with you on that. I always start these things about half an hour to forty-five minutes in. Then, once I'm caught up, it's fun to follow along on Twitter in real-time for the bigger awards. But yeah, there's A LOT to fast forward through. I'm happy for them and appreciate what they do, but I just don't need to hear what the costume designer has to say in their acceptance speech.

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My wife and I probably weren't going to watch anyway because out of touch millionaires lecturing me via their political beliefs is a real beating but when this years Moonlight v. La La Land debate turned into black America v. white America that meant I was going to watch something else tonight. And this will be the first time since I met my wife 10 years ago that we won't watch the Oscars together, have an award quiz competition, do dinner, etc.

I'll come back to the show when it's mainly about movies again and not identity politics, agendas, and PC culture.

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TCTTS said:

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Yeah, and when you made that Dave Matthews comparison in the other thread, if I recall correctly, there were quite a few responses from people saying it was a terrible analogy.

The fact of the matter is that La La Land was made by a bunch of a young, outsider, New York filmmakers who went hat-in-hand all over town, trying to get it made, only to have it rejected time and again. "Hollywood" didn't get together to concoct some masturbation fest. And please tell me what about the movie shows "how great" Hollywood is? If anything, it's a movie about just how ruthless the business can be, and how much people have to compromise just to "make it" in the industry. It doesn't paint a pretty picture by any means, but still tries to find what joy there is in such a pursuit.

I wish you guys who constantly look to be offended by Hollywood in this manner knew just how insecure and uninformed you come across. If you want to hate the movie, fine. But hating it for these particular reasons is asinine.

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corleoneAg99 said:

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Right there with you on that. I always start these things about half an hour to forty-five minutes in. Then, once I'm caught up, it's fun to follow along on Twitter in real-time for the bigger awards. But yeah, there's A LOT to fast forward through. I'm happy for them and appreciate what they do, but I just don't need to hear what the costume designer has to say in their acceptance speech.

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My wife and I probably weren't going to watch anyway because out of touch millionaires lecturing me via their political beliefs is a real beating but when this years Moonlight v. La La Land debate turned into black America v. white America that meant I was going to watch something else tonight. And this will be the first time since I met my wife 10 years ago that we won't watch the Oscars together, have an award quiz competition, do dinner, etc.

I'll come back to the show when it's mainly about movies again and not identity politics, agendas, and PC culture.

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I hope you are both able to make it through this very difficult time.

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TCTTS said:

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Genuine question... is the problem more that they'll be bashing Trump/a Republican, or that it's a bunch of celebs using their platform to get political? I'm just curious if, say, there was some kind of hypothetical NASCAR or Agriculture awards show (literally just trying to think of predominantly conservative professions), and everyone was using their platform to speak out against Hilary or Obama, would some of you have as much of a problem with it?

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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It always baffles me how offended some people get about actors talking politics. It's pretty easy to ignore and enjoy the rest of the show.

You're like feminists.

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GiveEmHellBill said:

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I don't want to be lectured to by a bunch of out-of-touch Hollywood people while they are giving themselves awards and patting themselves on the back. It's that simple.

So, I am simply going to not watch. And I get the feeling that this year's telecast will be one of the lowest-watched telecasts in decades because very few people care about these films.

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third coast.. said:

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TCTTS ill be in San Diego soon, lets get a drink and see a movie. i want to catch a glimpse of a celeb at manns like you always talk about. i went there once before but mainly mocked the people dressed up as movie characters and got pictures in l ron hubbards winter wonderland hahaha

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TCTTS said:

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I'm not "pontificating" on whether you SHOULD be watching. I don't care if you watch or not. I'm simply commenting on your decision not to watch an entire three-hour event because maybe 5% of it, if that, will be dedicated to speaking out against or making fun of a controversial political figure. I'm merely saying that there are always some genuinely funny/entertaining bits and that for me, it's fun to see some of the celebs and I thoroughly enjoy watching the celebration of cinema in general.

And no, I wouldn't watch a movie or TV show that I didn't like. But your analogy doesn't hold water because I watch movies and TV shows all the time in which I disagree with 5% (or more) of the choices made therein and/or the moral/political stances taken. But I still watch because the rest of the movie/show is pretty damn entertaining outside of those things.

It's obviously your prerogative to not watch or not like awards shows or hate the idea of "Hollywood" or whatever - I get that. I'm not trying to convince anyone here to watch something they don't want to waste time with. I just find it kind of hilarious how adamantly some people take a stand against stuff like this, when it's just not that big of a deal, all things considered. That, and people who can't laugh at themselves or make light of their cause even just a little always drive me insane. There are things about Trump I like and there are thing about Trump I don't like. And whether you believe he's the exact right figure for this nation right now or a complete buffoon, it's hard to admit that there aren't certain things about him that are ripe for mockery. I'm just saying, it's possible to support him but also laugh at a joke Kimmel makes about him, and that everyone getting their panties in a bunch over all this only tells me that you care way too much what other people think about whatever it is you support.

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nickstro66 said:

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How is Sing Street not nominated for anything

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TCTTS said:

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But there's also the old domestic abuse stuff that has been bubbling up, re: Affleck, and that might have been enough right there to tip the scales to Denzel in voter's minds.

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