Mad Max: Fury Road

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I thought the action shots were great, and the movie was intense. But I didn't even know what the story line was for the first hour or so, and there was never much story at all. All action and intensity with absolutely no story line just doesn't make a great movie for me.

I honestly don't understand this sentiment. The beauty of the movie is that the storyline is so incredibly obvious, straightforward, and easy to follow. There are multiple articles out there discussing this very fact; that in the wake of so many overly complicated plots - like Age of Ultron and Star Trek Into Darkness, to name a few - Fury Road stands out for its clear goals and stark simplicity, making for a much more visceral experience...

- It's the future. The world has obviously gone to hell after some kind of apocalyptic event. Doesn't matter what.

- A ruthless cult leader (named Immortan Joe) sends a group on what is basically a glorified gas run, celebrated with much pomp and circumstance. Imperator Furiosa (Charlize Theron) is the leader and point-woman of this gas run, as clearly stated by Joe as he addresses the masses.

- Furiosa, however, soon veers from the mission and it's revealed that she has smuggled Joe's harem of wives out, with plans to take them to "the green place," a place obviously/hopefully much better than where they came from (the details of which are ultimately irrelevant). All that matters is that the girls were being treated horribly ("We are not things!") and Furiosa is attempting to take them some place better.

- Joe immediately discovers his hiram is missing and rallies a large group to get them back.

- A rogue named Max was captured by Joe's thugs/devotees and now finds himself a part of the group going after the harem. Joe has an army of "War Boys," many of whom are suffering from some kind of tumors/deformities (likely from some kind of apocalyptic radiation, but it really doesn't matter). Max's blood is obviously being drained to treat one War Boy in particular (named Nux), who likely doesn't have much longer to live (again, all clearly stated).

- Eventually, Max gets free in a giant sandstorm and, after an initial scuffle, reluctantly joins with Furiosa and her crew / agrees to help them get to "the green place."

- Max, Furiosa & co eventually run into Furiosa's old clan, discover that "the green place" is no more, and so they come up with a dangerous plan to journey back through where they came, seal off the canyon they already ventured through, and take the now-unguarded "Citadel" (the cult headquarters from whence they came).

Seriously, the plot is literally: "With bad guys in pursuit, heroes attempt to drive from point A to B, discover B no longer exists, drive back to a now-unguarded point A." How is that "no storyline" or complicated in any way?
Haha, geez, sorry man. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers with my comment. I said I enjoyed the movie, I just didn't think it was 98% good, mainly because it was void of much of a story at all. I knew it would be intense action, but with the great reviews, I thought there would be a little more to the story. Maybe I shouldn't have said that I didn't know what the story line was for the first hour. For the most part I knew what the story was, but there just wasn't much to it at all. Apparrently you loved that aspect of it. I liked the movie, but would have liked more story/background to it.

For example, I don't remember them explaining why Max was on his own, what his purpose was (other than to just survive), why the bad guys cared about capturing Max at all, why the bad guys were using Max's blood and why they didn't just kill him when they captured him (could still use his blood if they killed him), why they took him on the battle with them, etc.

I still liked the movie without any background/explanation because at the end of the day it's just an entertaining action flick...but I think I would have liked it more if they had explained some of this a little. I didn't see any of the previous Max movies, so maybe some of this was explained in them...not sure.
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I thought it was pretty plainly shown that they capture people and use them as living blood banks for their soldiers.
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I thought it was pretty self explanatory. It doesn't really matter what max's backstory was, he has just been trying to survive. If you need more backstory watch the old movies. As for keeping him alive it was because he was a universal blood donor. If they kill him he can't replenish the war boys when they come back from excursions as much as they want. They took him with him because Nuk(I think that's his name) was still to weak without his blood and he didn't want to be left behind and surrender his car to his deputy. They captured him originally because he had a badass car and resources.
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Sometimes it's better to leave a characters's backstory as mysterious. See Boba Fett. He was 1000x more badass in Empire because we knew very little about him. Then you get all that backstory from the prequels and it really diminished him as a character.

If you want to know more of Max's backstory, go watch the original Mad Max. That's what it's there for.
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Sometimes it's better to leave a characters's backstory as mysterious. See Boba Fett. He was 1000x more badass in Empire because we knew very little about him. Then you get all that backstory from the prequels and it really diminished him as a character.

If you want to know more of Max's backstory, go watch the original Mad Max. That's what it's there for.

Bingo.
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Just got back from the movie and thought it was pretty spectacular. This was a flick I had no intention of seeing a week ago, but good reviews and positive word of mouth from friends convinced me to give it a shot. I'm glad I listened. The action was every bit as crazy, over the top and wowing as promised. The plot was simple, but I based on what I'd heard, I went into this expecting a movie that wouldn't make a lick of sense, but which would make up for it by being visually sensational. Turned out, the world made more sense than it did in the originals by making water the scarce resource instead of gas, which was plentiful thanks to gas town up the road. I enjoyed the use of strong female characters and the ways they showed all the angles of femininity, ranging from the young women who were sources of life to Furiosa and the badass warrior women. I might just take my girlfriend to see it in a week or two, and I hardly ever watch movies in theaters twice.

I hope the sequels George Miller mentioned he's thinking about get made. I'd definitely like to see more of this world, though I'd like for the next films to mix it up, slow it down and really flesh it out. Since Miller said Mad Max is like James Bond, where the actor can change, maybe someday the director will change as well so we can see different interpretations of this world. (I typically hate Zack Snyder, but I'd be curious to see what he'd do with a Mad Max movie.)

Reading back through the thread, the comments about Pitch Perfect had me chuckling because for some reason employees of the theater I was at looked my tickets, which clearly said Mad Max on them, and pointed my group of guys to the Pitch Perfect theater instead.
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Man what a fun movie. Need to go see it again soon. Been a while since I enjoyed a flick as much as this one. Maybe it was the lack of obvious CGI that is so prevalent throughout many action movies nowadays.
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Best part was the Drum Car with the guitarist playing on the front. The post apocalyptic bannerman
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I typically hate Zack Snyder, but I'd be curious to see what he'd do with a Mad Max movie.
Nope. Nuh uh.

Want to see the Australian outback done in dark gray and no sunshine ever? That's what Snyder would do to a Mad Max movie.
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Just got back home from the theater.


Holy balls! Most intense movie I've ever seen, and I enjoyed nearly every bit of it.

Basically one huge action scene from beginning to end. Such an incredibly fun movie.
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I was really hoping for Immortal Joe to turn out to be Mel Gibson.
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Great movie and best theatre experience I have had in a long time. Will be seeing it again.
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The movie was fun, but it was not 98% good since story was non-existant. The only character that had anything resembling character development was Furiosa and Max was a secondary character in his own film. I am glad I saw it, but don't make it out to be something more
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It was okay. I would say it is cool but strange. It is at least something out of the ordinary, but it isn't something I would feel like watching repeatedly except for maybe the sandstorm scene. It was intense and the weird/grotesque nature of the world wasn't particularly my cup of tea.
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Quick question:

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Why would Max leave at the end, other than to allow for sequels? The only other one I've seen is Road Warrior, and he's kind of a loner/drifter of sorts, but why would he willingly leave the only place in this world with running water and (likely) affectionate leadership?

Perhaps he doesn't leave the Citadel. But I imagine he'll be on the road in some dusty car by 2017 or 2018
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Why would Max leave at the end, other than to allow for sequels? The only other one I've seen is Road Warrior, and he's kind of a loner/drifter of sorts, but why would he willingly leave the only place in this world with running water and (likely) affectionate leadership?

Perhaps he doesn't leave the Citadel. But I imagine he'll be on the road in some dusty car by 2017 or 2018
I've always thought that for a character like Max, he is so haunted by his past and also a uniquely independent person that he can't allow himself to be "settled down" in one place forever, no matter how safe, wonderful, good, etc. He is a drifter and a loner. That's his MO. He needs that lifestyle of survival, scavenging, living by his skills (driving/fighting/foraging, etc.) to keep him going. I think for such an independent person like that, just the thought that they would have a place to visit from time to time when they do need that rare human interaction would be good enough for a guy like that. My .02 cents
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I thought it was pretty meh. Don't believe the hype and you might be ok.
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I'm kind of in the "meh" category as well. The action sequences were amazing, the movie moved quickly, and I was never bored. It was definitely a fun two hours.

The lack of, or overly simplistic plot/story has already been discussed at length. Beyond that, I just didn't care about the characters. The bad guys weren't bad enough to make me really loathe them. The good guys weren't developed or interesting enough to pull my emotions or make me care whether they lived or died. Max leaving at the end was awkward and didn't leave me with a sense of "he's a tortured spirit loner that has to stay on the outside of humanity and community" but did leave me with a sense of "let's make another movie".

Also, the live vehicles and sets were so incredibly well done that the brief injections of CGI here and there seemed to work against these scenes not to better them. Outside of a couple of instances (maybe the sandstorm) I would have left almost all the CGI out. THe stunts were amazing.
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How nobody died making this movie is amazing
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the more I think about Tom Hardy. The happier I am.
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I said the exact same thing yesterday at the theatre.
(for sex panther)
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the more I think about Tom Hardy. The happier I am.

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I said the exact same thing yesterday at the theatre.

good to know...
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did you notice thought that instead of his hair looking all great throughout the movie (think Brad Pitt in Fury), after they cut it all off they left little tufts here and there and it was generally pretty jacked up. I thought that was a nice "attention to detail" touch.
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http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/george-miller-says-he-courted-heath-ledger-to-lead-mad-max-in-2006-reveals-title-for-fury-road-sequel-20150518
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did you notice thought that instead of his hair looking all great throughout the movie (think Brad Pitt in Fury), after they cut it all off they left little tufts here and there and it was generally pretty jacked up. I thought that was a nice "attention to detail" touch.
I did. of course the "haircut" he got was pretty furious... but he looked better with tufts than the sh**** dirty crap!

I have to say, the more I think about this movie the more I enjoyed it. just so frantic and bizarre.
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It was Road Warrior on meth
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Damn. I like Tom Hardy a ton and he did really well... but that would've been awesome.
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The movie was fun, but it was not 98% good since story was non-existant. The only character that had anything resembling character development was Furiosa and Max was a secondary character in his own film. I am glad I saw it, but don't make it out to be something more

How did you miss Nux's character arc? His transformation from brainwashed, loyal War Boy to helping Max and Furiosa was an integral part of the plot.
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Damn. I like Tom Hardy a ton and he did really well... but that would've been awesome.
wow, he died in 2008. didn't know they were talking about this that long ago...
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I'm just going to come out and say it. Heath Ledger was VERY OVERRATED.
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How did you miss Nux's character arc? His transformation from brainwashed, loyal War Boy to helping Max and Furiosa was an integral part of the plot.


a hot redhead will do that
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http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/george-miller-says-he-courted-heath-ledger-to-lead-mad-max-in-2006-reveals-title-for-fury-road-sequel-20150518

Damn. I like Tom Hardy a ton and he did really well... but that would've been awesome.
wow, he died in 2008. didn't know they were talking about this that long ago...


I heard Miller wanted another one with Gibson in the late 90's as well.
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I'm just going to come out and say it. Heath Ledger was VERY OVERRATED.


I don't know about VERY. But yes he was overrated. Still I think he would have made a pretty decent Max.
 
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