RC will coach here until 2025. Get used to it, and the same stupid dialogue.
If RC is coaching here in 2025 then it's because he's had more success than just getting to a regional.Buford T. Justice said:
RC will coach here until 2025. Get used to it, and the same stupid dialogue.
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Like I said, it isn't as black and white as you want it to be. And yes, the contract situation definitely plays into how this decision gets made.
I'd have been fine if RC chose to leave. I don't think we will have an issue attracting a high end coach. But RC didn't leave. And the reality is, we have an AD who hasn't officially started yet and a head coach with 2 years remaining on a contract. None of that adds up to making a change this year.
You described yourself as a realist earlier on this thread, well that's about as real as I can be about our current situation. He's not getting fired this year. I think next year is the year he has to perform or go elsewhere.
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If we are letting this coach stick around another year, a year in which everyone on this board knows exactly how it's going to end, to save one year of his salary, we aren't serious about winning.
That is nonsense. Is our program where we want it to be? No. Is our program a train wreck? Also no.BoozingAg said:
If we are letting this coach stick around another year, a year in which everyone on this board knows exactly how it's going to end, to save one year of his salary, we aren't serious about winning.
I stated that to get to Omaha, you have to get out of regionals and super regionals. And we have only done that twice in 13 years under RC. Nothing I stated is factually incorrect or misleading.ColoradoMooseHerd said:Out of those 13 seasons, we have won the regional 6 timesschmellba99 said:
Everybody knows that. Using it as some type of blue star is silly though.
And let's face the absolute facts - we've made regionals. As stated, 13 years in a row. Great stat, not taking away from the fact that for 13 years we've been one of the top 21% of teams in the country.
But let's use your logic here - in order to get to Omaha, you have to make it out of regionals and Supers. In 13 years, we've eeked that out twice. .153%. Making a regional is great if your goal is to make a regional. Doesn't help to not get out of them if your goal is to win a championship though, which is the entire argument of the time for a change crowd.
RC is going to coach next season, I have no doubt about that. And I have no doubt we'll make a record 14th regional. I have every doubt we'll do anything beyond that.
And after going to 6 Super Regionals, we won the Super Regional 2 times
You make it seem like we only made it out of regionals twice. Rob is almost at a 50% clip on making it to Super Regionals,
So you think the point of a message board is to do nothing but rah-rah the team, no matter what the results are, blow smoke up everybody's ass and not question anything but provide only 100% loyal blind support?aginlakeway said:dermdoc said:I agree with you however I do not think the answer is to gripe on a website and not donate so that you can have some input. And that is all I have been trying to say. We will agree to disagree.BoozingAg said:dermdoc said:twk said:
Not a boomer. Try again. I don't think it's generational. I've run into plenty of old Ags who repeat the same nonsense that you type. Hell, they were typing it 20 years ago on this site. They were still typing after we fired Slocum, Fran, Sherman, and Sumlin. They will still be typing it in the future because its a convenient scapegoat argument.
Were they right or wrong about those coaches? Were those coaches hired or given contract extensions with clauses approved by the AD? Or were they done by BMAs who don't face accountability for those decisions?
We let donors or BOR members run things and we wind up with Fran, Sherman, and ridiculously bad contract deals like we had with Sumlin.
When we do a professionally done, athletic director ran coaching search, we wind up with Jimbo.
And edited to add that I do not agree with putting the hiring of Fran with the bad contract extensions. At the time, everybody thought that was a home run hire. Bama folks were pissed at Fran leaving and basically threatened him and his family.
I don't get the griping on a website with no skin in the game deal either.
BoozingAg said:
If we are letting this coach stick around another year, a year in which everyone on this board knows exactly how it's going to end, to save one year of his salary, we aren't serious about winning.
First, it's not we because you have nothing to do with Coach Childress and his contract.BoozingAg said:
If we are letting this coach stick around another year, a year in which everyone on this board knows exactly how it's going to end, to save one year of his salary, we aren't serious about winning.
I certainly don't speak for aginlakeway, but that really mischaracterizes and oversimplifies his post.schmellba99 said:So you think the point of a message board is to do nothing but rah-rah the team, no matter what the results are, blow smoke up everybody's ass and not question anything but provide only 100% loyal blind support?aginlakeway said:dermdoc said:I agree with you however I do not think the answer is to gripe on a website and not donate so that you can have some input. And that is all I have been trying to say. We will agree to disagree.BoozingAg said:dermdoc said:twk said:
Not a boomer. Try again. I don't think it's generational. I've run into plenty of old Ags who repeat the same nonsense that you type. Hell, they were typing it 20 years ago on this site. They were still typing after we fired Slocum, Fran, Sherman, and Sumlin. They will still be typing it in the future because its a convenient scapegoat argument.
Were they right or wrong about those coaches? Were those coaches hired or given contract extensions with clauses approved by the AD? Or were they done by BMAs who don't face accountability for those decisions?
We let donors or BOR members run things and we wind up with Fran, Sherman, and ridiculously bad contract deals like we had with Sumlin.
When we do a professionally done, athletic director ran coaching search, we wind up with Jimbo.
And edited to add that I do not agree with putting the hiring of Fran with the bad contract extensions. At the time, everybody thought that was a home run hire. Bama folks were pissed at Fran leaving and basically threatened him and his family.
I don't get the griping on a website with no skin in the game deal either.
Wow.
technoviking said:BoozingAg said:
If we are letting this coach stick around another year, a year in which everyone on this board knows exactly how it's going to end, to save one year of his salary, we aren't serious about winning.
It's Groundhog Day. RC didn't go to Nebraska. He's here next year.
What will you say next year, BoozingAg?
Wicked Good Ag said:BoozingAg said:
If we are letting this coach stick around another year, a year in which everyone on this board knows exactly how it's going to end, to save one year of his salary, we aren't serious about winning.
Yeah Childress hates winning. He purposefully loses to watch Texags go hard core BAS.
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So why compound the situation by making a bad business decision and spend more money than is needed to accomplish the same thing?
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So why compound the situation by making a bad business decision and spend more money than is needed to accomplish the same thing?
The bad business decision was made when we gave him a 5 year contract extension following a season that didn't result in Omaha, following his 11th season that only had 1 Omaha trip and 0 CWS wins
This has been A&M's problem forever. Over extending itself on Sumlin, Kennedy, and Childress and making them unfireable. Where is the motivation for Kevin Sumlin to go out and work his ass off when if he gets fired, he gets all the money remaining in his contract in 30 days. It's freaking ridiculous. Now here we are again stuck with a lame duck coach for a lame duck season.
The motivation for any of these guys is that they want to win. For you to assume otherwise is silly.BoozingAg said:Quote:
So why compound the situation by making a bad business decision and spend more money than is needed to accomplish the same thing?
The bad business decision was made when we gave him a 5 year contract extension following a season that didn't result in Omaha, following his 11th season that only had 1 Omaha trip and 0 CWS wins
This has been A&M's problem forever. Over extending itself on Sumlin, Kennedy, and Childress and making them unfireable. Where is the motivation for Kevin Sumlin to go out and work his ass off when if he gets fired, he gets all the money remaining in his contract in 30 days. It's freaking ridiculous. Now here we are again stuck with a lame duck coach for a lame duck season.
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The motivation for any of these guys is that they want to win. For you to assume otherwise is silly.
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I'm not necessarily a fan of how we negotiate these deals, but you might as well go looking for unicorns if you think you're going to hire coaches that will work with no buyout
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Your problem is that you always think there is a simple solution to the problem, and that solution is always firing the incumbent.
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However, I suspect that Woodward would have had a hard time pulling the trigger given the conflicts between Woodward and Sharp over spending too much money (and this was a deal that Woodward negotiated), and how firing Rob would have meant spending millions on another coaching change in a non revenue sport.
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I read on another board that I had a subscription to that Rob is held in high regard by the BMAs, which is why he got the deal he got. Sound familiar? BK?
Childress literally looks like every white suburban middle aged dad I've ever seen.MMantle said:
On a lighter note, interesting picture of Childress, first time I've ever seen him smile.
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BoozingAg said:technoviking said:BoozingAg said:
If we are letting this coach stick around another year, a year in which everyone on this board knows exactly how it's going to end, to save one year of his salary, we aren't serious about winning.
It's Groundhog Day. RC didn't go to Nebraska. He's here next year.
What will you say next year, BoozingAg?
Next year when Regional Exit Rob fulfills your expectations yet again?
Hey can I ask all you blue-starring pro RC'ers a question?
Which SEC team not named Texas A&M are y'all rooting for this year?
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Cool gifs. I guess you've given up on making points after you got laughed at for your point about the TCU games.
I mean, you're talking right back into the point about why now is a terrible time to make any move at all. I'm not disagreeing that we made a bad decision on a 5 year extension in 2016. But now you're advocating we make another bad decision in firing a guy with 2 years on his contract, to go get anyone else...BoozingAg said:Quote:
So why compound the situation by making a bad business decision and spend more money than is needed to accomplish the same thing?
The bad business decision was made when we gave him a 5 year contract extension following a season that didn't result in Omaha, following his 11th season that only had 1 Omaha trip and 0 CWS wins
No program out there was a legitimate threat to take him from us.
This has been A&M's problem forever. Over extending itself on Sumlin, Kennedy, and Childress and making them unfireable. Where is the motivation for Kevin Sumlin to go out and work his ass off when if he gets fired, he gets all the money remaining in his contract in 30 days. It's freaking ridiculous. Now here we are again stuck with a lame duck coach for a lame duck season.
Must be one of them there RC supporters.jkag89 said:Your own wordsQuote:
90% of the teams in college baseball would love to have RC.
BoozingAg said:
Who was going to take him? This is what I don't get. Why do we NEED to extend guys like BK and RC for so long? Who is out there that's going to take him and pay him more?
BoozingAg said:
Who was going to take him? This is what I don't get. Why do we NEED to extend guys like BK and RC for so long? Who is out there that's going to take him and pay him more?