"Stop worshiping someone else's coach and smell the roses?"

Confused.

Smell what roses?

RR

Aggies2009 said:

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BoozingAg said:

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Aggies2009 said:

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BoozingAg said:

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Aggies2009 said:

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BoozingAg said:

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Sandman98 said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Sandman98 said:

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greenyjoe said:

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Wicked Good Ag said:

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OldSaltAg said:

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I think Schloss would jump at the chance to lead a baseball program of A&M's caliber.

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Umm TAMU caliber ?? But yet TCU has had us in their rear view mirror for years until very recently

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Is that because the tamu job is worse or because Schloss elevated the tcu job above Childress's program?

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I swear I learned on this board that ANYBODY could make the field of 64. It's a minimum expectation since they expanded from 48 to 64.

The same board thinks Schloss has some sort of magic wand. He is a wizard that we must have but ignore that on the heels of a nice run he didn't meet the minimum expectation two years in a row. How is that even possible?

I know. Imagine what he'd do with SEC SEC facilities fertile recruiting ground proximity location rabble rabble. Save it.

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So you don't believe Schlossnagle could do better at A&M, with our resources, than he has at TCU?

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I don't know and neither do you. Did his resources recently get worse at TCU thus leading to two years below the minimum expectation shortly after a tremendous run of success good fortune? What changed?

If you want to fire RC for the sake of change, just admit that. Nothing to argue about. If you think our resources guarantee that Schloss wins more than RC, odds are good that you'll be disappointed.

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Schloss has prevented us from winning our own Regional, prevented us from Omaha in back to back years, and prevented your savior Robert Childress from one of his 4 chances at a single win in Omaha the year after that. At a minimum, maybe we pull the guy that consistently ends our seasons.

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Well he hasn't ended much of anything failing/struggling to make regionals as of late.

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What, the past two seasons? Yeah let's talk about all the domination Robert Casey Stengel Childress has exhibited in that time

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Well he went 1-0 against TCU and made the tournament easily both years. So he's got that going for him, which is nice.

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A regular season win and just making the tournament. Awesome. Raise & extension!

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If they're so easy why didn't Schloss do it?

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He made the tournament this season

Sandman98 said:

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BoozingAg said:

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Sandman98 said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Sandman98 said:

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greenyjoe said:

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Wicked Good Ag said:

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OldSaltAg said:

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I think Schloss would jump at the chance to lead a baseball program of A&M's caliber.

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Umm TAMU caliber ?? But yet TCU has had us in their rear view mirror for years until very recently

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Is that because the tamu job is worse or because Schloss elevated the tcu job above Childress's program?

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I swear I learned on this board that ANYBODY could make the field of 64. It's a minimum expectation since they expanded from 48 to 64.

The same board thinks Schloss has some sort of magic wand. He is a wizard that we must have but ignore that on the heels of a nice run he didn't meet the minimum expectation two years in a row. How is that even possible?

I know. Imagine what he'd do with SEC SEC facilities fertile recruiting ground proximity location rabble rabble. Save it.

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So you don't believe Schlossnagle could do better at A&M, with our resources, than he has at TCU?

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I don't know and neither do you. Did his resources recently get worse at TCU thus leading to two years below the minimum expectation shortly after a tremendous run of success good fortune? What changed?

If you want to fire RC for the sake of change, just admit that. Nothing to argue about. If you think our resources guarantee that Schloss wins more than RC, odds are good that you'll be disappointed.

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Schloss has prevented us from winning our own Regional, prevented us from Omaha in back to back years, and prevented your savior Robert Childress from one of his 4 chances at a single win in Omaha the year after that. At a minimum, maybe we pull the guy that consistently ends our seasons.

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He did no such thing. He watched from the dugout as things went his players' way in games that he would admit could have gone either way. We give coaches way too much credit around here.

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When in doubt, deflect!

Here's the thing - when "things go the players way" consistently for a coach, it's not just the baseball gods reaching down to smite A&M and favor TCU, it's completely a function of a coach doing a better job at getting the players prepared and providing them with the tools they need to capitalize when the ball bounces their way.

That's why some guys end up being better coaches than others, if it were a function of luck we wouldn't see programs with long standing coaches have consistent success and be in the hunt the overwhelming majority of the years that coach is running the ship - it'd be the same crapshoot every year. And, generally speaking, it isn't.

But you know that and are just being contrarian and are arguing simply to argue.

schmellba99 said:

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Sandman98 said:

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BoozingAg said:

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Sandman98 said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Sandman98 said:

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greenyjoe said:

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Wicked Good Ag said:

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OldSaltAg said:

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I think Schloss would jump at the chance to lead a baseball program of A&M's caliber.

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Umm TAMU caliber ?? But yet TCU has had us in their rear view mirror for years until very recently

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Is that because the tamu job is worse or because Schloss elevated the tcu job above Childress's program?

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I swear I learned on this board that ANYBODY could make the field of 64. It's a minimum expectation since they expanded from 48 to 64.

The same board thinks Schloss has some sort of magic wand. He is a wizard that we must have but ignore that on the heels of a nice run he didn't meet the minimum expectation two years in a row. How is that even possible?

I know. Imagine what he'd do with SEC SEC facilities fertile recruiting ground proximity location rabble rabble. Save it.

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So you don't believe Schlossnagle could do better at A&M, with our resources, than he has at TCU?

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I don't know and neither do you. Did his resources recently get worse at TCU thus leading to two years below the minimum expectation shortly after a tremendous run of success good fortune? What changed?

If you want to fire RC for the sake of change, just admit that. Nothing to argue about. If you think our resources guarantee that Schloss wins more than RC, odds are good that you'll be disappointed.

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Schloss has prevented us from winning our own Regional, prevented us from Omaha in back to back years, and prevented your savior Robert Childress from one of his 4 chances at a single win in Omaha the year after that. At a minimum, maybe we pull the guy that consistently ends our seasons.

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He did no such thing. He watched from the dugout as things went his players' way in games that he would admit could have gone either way. We give coaches way too much credit around here.

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When in doubt, deflect!

Here's the thing - when "things go the players way" consistently for a coach, it's not just the baseball gods reaching down to smite A&M and favor TCU, it's completely a function of a coach doing a better job at getting the players prepared and providing them with the tools they need to capitalize when the ball bounces their way.

That's why some guys end up being better coaches than others, if it were a function of luck we wouldn't see programs with long standing coaches have consistent success and be in the hunt the overwhelming majority of the years that coach is running the ship - it'd be the same crapshoot every year. And, generally speaking, it isn't.

But you know that and are just being contrarian and are arguing simply to argue.

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Personally not a huge fan of Schloss just based on some concerns I have after gathering good information from respected folks in the profession. That said, one thing is a fact. He most certainly didn't just sit there and watch the "coin flip" games unfold. His players didn't play tight late in those elimination games and they didn't beat themselves. We most certainly did in both years. That speaks volumes about the level of preparation and the mentality the players bring in to those situations due to the guys directing and guiding them. Childress is a good college baseball coach and a good guy. That doesn't mean you can't identify his short comings and criticize them. a couple people here will just rationalize and tend goal for him until the bitter end.

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cevans_40 said:

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Turning TCU into a program that is consistently in the post-season is more impressive than anything Childress has done in his tenure here.

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Did you know he's less consistent than RC at reaching the postseason? And his inclusion in the postseason in 2019 might be the biggest fraud in the history of the tournament?

I know, he's been to Omaha more often. He knows he struck gold and the gig is up which is why he's begging to be our coach. Stop worshipping somebody else's coach and smell the roses.

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Schlossnagle:
Post season 16/18 years as a head coach. .889
Supers 6/17 years (not including this year obviously as it is still going) - .353
CWS 5/17 years (not including this season) - .294 (including a 4 year in a row run)

RC:
Post Season 13/15 years as head coach - .866
Supers 6/15 years as head coach - .400
CWS 2/15 years as head coach - .133

Advantage:
Post season - Schlossnagle
Supers - RC
CWS - Schlossnagle
Head to head - Schlossnagle
Career Wins - Schlossnagle
CWS Championships - Push

And just to irk you, Schlossnagle has more wins in his first appearance alone at the CWS than RC has in his entire career. (11-8 record there, 3 wins his first appearance)

schmellba99 said:

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Sandman98 said:

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cevans_40 said:

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Turning TCU into a program that is consistently in the post-season is more impressive than anything Childress has done in his tenure here.

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Did you know he's less consistent than RC at reaching the postseason? And his inclusion in the postseason in 2019 might be the biggest fraud in the history of the tournament?

I know, he's been to Omaha more often. He knows he struck gold and the gig is up which is why he's begging to be our coach. Stop worshipping somebody else's coach and smell the roses.

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Schlossnagle:
Post season 16/18 years as a head coach. .889
Supers 6/17 years (not including this year obviously as it is still going) - .353
CWS 5/17 years (not including this season) - .294 (including a 4 year in a row run)

RC:
Post Season 13/15 years as head coach - .866
Supers 6/15 years as head coach - .400
CWS 2/15 years as head coach - .133

Advantage:
Post season - Schlossnagle
Supers - RC
CWS - Schlossnagle
Head to head - Schlossnagle
Career Wins - Schlossnagle
CWS Championships - Push

And just to irk you, Schlossnagle has more wins in his first appearance alone at the CWS than RC has in his entire career. (11-8 record there, 3 wins his first appearance)

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And Schloss did it at TCU, a program that had never done anything before he got there.

I don't really care if the guy has a pitching background or a hitting background. Here is what you need from your head coach:

1. Build a championship culture
2. Hire great assistant coaches/support staff
3. Recruit

Saarloos is the best available assistant I know of for those 3 things.