"Stop worshiping someone else's coach and smell the roses?"
Confused.
Smell what roses?
RR
Confused.
Smell what roses?
RR
Why do we want him now that his program isn't doing so hot?Hop said:HoustonAg2106 said:What makes you think he is gettable? He's had plenty of opportunities to leave TCU...agforlife97 said:
It's going to be Schlossnagle. Who has a better resume and is gettable?
Going back a couple of years, he has made it clear behind the scenes that he would be interested in the A&M job if it's ever open...and he wouldn't need a raise to go.
Sandman98 said:greenyjoe said:Wicked Good Ag said:OldSaltAg said:
I think Schloss would jump at the chance to lead a baseball program of A&M's caliber.
Umm TAMU caliber ?? But yet TCU has had us in their rear view mirror for years until very recently
Is that because the tamu job is worse or because Schloss elevated the tcu job above Childress's program?
I swear I learned on this board that ANYBODY could make the field of 64. It's a minimum expectation since they expanded from 48 to 64.
The same board thinks Schloss has some sort of magic wand. He is a wizard that we must have but ignore that on the heels of a nice run he didn't meet the minimum expectation two years in a row. How is that even possible?
I know. Imagine what he'd do with SEC SEC facilities fertile recruiting ground proximity location rabble rabble. Save it.
If they're so easy why didn't Schloss do it?BoozingAg said:Aggies2009 said:BoozingAg said:Aggies2009 said:BoozingAg said:Sandman98 said:cevans_40 said:Sandman98 said:greenyjoe said:Wicked Good Ag said:OldSaltAg said:
I think Schloss would jump at the chance to lead a baseball program of A&M's caliber.
Umm TAMU caliber ?? But yet TCU has had us in their rear view mirror for years until very recently
Is that because the tamu job is worse or because Schloss elevated the tcu job above Childress's program?
I swear I learned on this board that ANYBODY could make the field of 64. It's a minimum expectation since they expanded from 48 to 64.
The same board thinks Schloss has some sort of magic wand. He is a wizard that we must have but ignore that on the heels of a nice run he didn't meet the minimum expectation two years in a row. How is that even possible?
I know. Imagine what he'd do with SEC SEC facilities fertile recruiting ground proximity location rabble rabble. Save it.
So you don't believe Schlossnagle could do better at A&M, with our resources, than he has at TCU?
I don't know and neither do you. Did his resources recently get worse at TCU thus leading to two years below the minimum expectation shortly after a tremendous run of success good fortune? What changed?
If you want to fire RC for the sake of change, just admit that. Nothing to argue about. If you think our resources guarantee that Schloss wins more than RC, odds are good that you'll be disappointed.
Schloss has prevented us from winning our own Regional, prevented us from Omaha in back to back years, and prevented your savior Robert Childress from one of his 4 chances at a single win in Omaha the year after that. At a minimum, maybe we pull the guy that consistently ends our seasons.
Well he hasn't ended much of anything failing/struggling to make regionals as of late.
What, the past two seasons? Yeah let's talk about all the domination Robert Casey Stengel Childress has exhibited in that time
Well he went 1-0 against TCU and made the tournament easily both years. So he's got that going for him, which is nice.
A regular season win and just making the tournament. Awesome. Raise & extension!
well Boomer is a regular on the radio program.swimmerbabe11 said:
Was it that most recent interview? He's been interviewed by Bock like 80 times.
swimmerbabe11 said:
yes indeed, which means that when I asked for a link about him talking about a poor culture at TCU.. the response saying it was in a radio interview and on a board that I can't access was completely unhelpful.
He didn't ask what you know and don't know, he asked what you believed given the hypothetical he posted.Sandman98 said:cevans_40 said:Sandman98 said:greenyjoe said:Wicked Good Ag said:OldSaltAg said:
I think Schloss would jump at the chance to lead a baseball program of A&M's caliber.
Umm TAMU caliber ?? But yet TCU has had us in their rear view mirror for years until very recently
Is that because the tamu job is worse or because Schloss elevated the tcu job above Childress's program?
I swear I learned on this board that ANYBODY could make the field of 64. It's a minimum expectation since they expanded from 48 to 64.
The same board thinks Schloss has some sort of magic wand. He is a wizard that we must have but ignore that on the heels of a nice run he didn't meet the minimum expectation two years in a row. How is that even possible?
I know. Imagine what he'd do with SEC SEC facilities fertile recruiting ground proximity location rabble rabble. Save it.
So you don't believe Schlossnagle could do better at A&M, with our resources, than he has at TCU?
I don't know and neither do you. Did his resources recently get worse at TCU thus leading to two years below the minimum expectation shortly after a tremendous run of success good fortune? What changed?
If you want to fire RC for the sake of change, just admit that. Nothing to argue about. If you think our resources guarantee that Schloss wins more than RC, odds are good that you'll be disappointed.
Aggies2009 said:If they're so easy why didn't Schloss do it?BoozingAg said:Aggies2009 said:BoozingAg said:Aggies2009 said:BoozingAg said:Sandman98 said:cevans_40 said:Sandman98 said:greenyjoe said:Wicked Good Ag said:OldSaltAg said:
I think Schloss would jump at the chance to lead a baseball program of A&M's caliber.
Umm TAMU caliber ?? But yet TCU has had us in their rear view mirror for years until very recently
Is that because the tamu job is worse or because Schloss elevated the tcu job above Childress's program?
I swear I learned on this board that ANYBODY could make the field of 64. It's a minimum expectation since they expanded from 48 to 64.
The same board thinks Schloss has some sort of magic wand. He is a wizard that we must have but ignore that on the heels of a nice run he didn't meet the minimum expectation two years in a row. How is that even possible?
I know. Imagine what he'd do with SEC SEC facilities fertile recruiting ground proximity location rabble rabble. Save it.
So you don't believe Schlossnagle could do better at A&M, with our resources, than he has at TCU?
I don't know and neither do you. Did his resources recently get worse at TCU thus leading to two years below the minimum expectation shortly after a tremendous run of success good fortune? What changed?
If you want to fire RC for the sake of change, just admit that. Nothing to argue about. If you think our resources guarantee that Schloss wins more than RC, odds are good that you'll be disappointed.
Schloss has prevented us from winning our own Regional, prevented us from Omaha in back to back years, and prevented your savior Robert Childress from one of his 4 chances at a single win in Omaha the year after that. At a minimum, maybe we pull the guy that consistently ends our seasons.
Well he hasn't ended much of anything failing/struggling to make regionals as of late.
What, the past two seasons? Yeah let's talk about all the domination Robert Casey Stengel Childress has exhibited in that time
Well he went 1-0 against TCU and made the tournament easily both years. So he's got that going for him, which is nice.
A regular season win and just making the tournament. Awesome. Raise & extension!
Tex100 said:Why do we want him now that his program isn't doing so hot?Hop said:HoustonAg2106 said:What makes you think he is gettable? He's had plenty of opportunities to leave TCU...agforlife97 said:
It's going to be Schlossnagle. Who has a better resume and is gettable?
Going back a couple of years, he has made it clear behind the scenes that he would be interested in the A&M job if it's ever open...and he wouldn't need a raise to go.
When in doubt, deflect!Sandman98 said:BoozingAg said:Sandman98 said:cevans_40 said:Sandman98 said:greenyjoe said:Wicked Good Ag said:OldSaltAg said:
I think Schloss would jump at the chance to lead a baseball program of A&M's caliber.
Umm TAMU caliber ?? But yet TCU has had us in their rear view mirror for years until very recently
Is that because the tamu job is worse or because Schloss elevated the tcu job above Childress's program?
I swear I learned on this board that ANYBODY could make the field of 64. It's a minimum expectation since they expanded from 48 to 64.
The same board thinks Schloss has some sort of magic wand. He is a wizard that we must have but ignore that on the heels of a nice run he didn't meet the minimum expectation two years in a row. How is that even possible?
I know. Imagine what he'd do with SEC SEC facilities fertile recruiting ground proximity location rabble rabble. Save it.
So you don't believe Schlossnagle could do better at A&M, with our resources, than he has at TCU?
I don't know and neither do you. Did his resources recently get worse at TCU thus leading to two years below the minimum expectation shortly after a tremendous run of success good fortune? What changed?
If you want to fire RC for the sake of change, just admit that. Nothing to argue about. If you think our resources guarantee that Schloss wins more than RC, odds are good that you'll be disappointed.
Schloss has prevented us from winning our own Regional, prevented us from Omaha in back to back years, and prevented your savior Robert Childress from one of his 4 chances at a single win in Omaha the year after that. At a minimum, maybe we pull the guy that consistently ends our seasons.
He did no such thing. He watched from the dugout as things went his players' way in games that he would admit could have gone either way. We give coaches way too much credit around here.
Personally not a huge fan of Schloss just based on some concerns I have after gathering good information from respected folks in the profession. That said, one thing is a fact. He most certainly didn't just sit there and watch the "coin flip" games unfold. His players didn't play tight late in those elimination games and they didn't beat themselves. We most certainly did in both years. That speaks volumes about the level of preparation and the mentality the players bring in to those situations due to the guys directing and guiding them. Childress is a good college baseball coach and a good guy. That doesn't mean you can't identify his short comings and criticize them. a couple people here will just rationalize and tend goal for him until the bitter end.schmellba99 said:When in doubt, deflect!Sandman98 said:BoozingAg said:Sandman98 said:cevans_40 said:Sandman98 said:greenyjoe said:Wicked Good Ag said:OldSaltAg said:
I think Schloss would jump at the chance to lead a baseball program of A&M's caliber.
Umm TAMU caliber ?? But yet TCU has had us in their rear view mirror for years until very recently
Is that because the tamu job is worse or because Schloss elevated the tcu job above Childress's program?
I swear I learned on this board that ANYBODY could make the field of 64. It's a minimum expectation since they expanded from 48 to 64.
The same board thinks Schloss has some sort of magic wand. He is a wizard that we must have but ignore that on the heels of a nice run he didn't meet the minimum expectation two years in a row. How is that even possible?
I know. Imagine what he'd do with SEC SEC facilities fertile recruiting ground proximity location rabble rabble. Save it.
So you don't believe Schlossnagle could do better at A&M, with our resources, than he has at TCU?
I don't know and neither do you. Did his resources recently get worse at TCU thus leading to two years below the minimum expectation shortly after a tremendous run of success good fortune? What changed?
If you want to fire RC for the sake of change, just admit that. Nothing to argue about. If you think our resources guarantee that Schloss wins more than RC, odds are good that you'll be disappointed.
Schloss has prevented us from winning our own Regional, prevented us from Omaha in back to back years, and prevented your savior Robert Childress from one of his 4 chances at a single win in Omaha the year after that. At a minimum, maybe we pull the guy that consistently ends our seasons.
He did no such thing. He watched from the dugout as things went his players' way in games that he would admit could have gone either way. We give coaches way too much credit around here.
Here's the thing - when "things go the players way" consistently for a coach, it's not just the baseball gods reaching down to smite A&M and favor TCU, it's completely a function of a coach doing a better job at getting the players prepared and providing them with the tools they need to capitalize when the ball bounces their way.
That's why some guys end up being better coaches than others, if it were a function of luck we wouldn't see programs with long standing coaches have consistent success and be in the hunt the overwhelming majority of the years that coach is running the ship - it'd be the same crapshoot every year. And, generally speaking, it isn't.
But you know that and are just being contrarian and are arguing simply to argue.
Schlossnagle:Sandman98 said:cevans_40 said:
Turning TCU into a program that is consistently in the post-season is more impressive than anything Childress has done in his tenure here.
Did you know he's less consistent than RC at reaching the postseason? And his inclusion in the postseason in 2019 might be the biggest fraud in the history of the tournament?
I know, he's been to Omaha more often. He knows he struck gold and the gig is up which is why he's begging to be our coach. Stop worshipping somebody else's coach and smell the roses.
And Schloss did it at TCU, a program that had never done anything before he got there.schmellba99 said:Schlossnagle:Sandman98 said:cevans_40 said:
Turning TCU into a program that is consistently in the post-season is more impressive than anything Childress has done in his tenure here.
Did you know he's less consistent than RC at reaching the postseason? And his inclusion in the postseason in 2019 might be the biggest fraud in the history of the tournament?
I know, he's been to Omaha more often. He knows he struck gold and the gig is up which is why he's begging to be our coach. Stop worshipping somebody else's coach and smell the roses.
Post season 16/18 years as a head coach. .889
Supers 6/17 years (not including this year obviously as it is still going) - .353
CWS 5/17 years (not including this season) - .294 (including a 4 year in a row run)
RC:
Post Season 13/15 years as head coach - .866
Supers 6/15 years as head coach - .400
CWS 2/15 years as head coach - .133
Advantage:
Post season - Schlossnagle
Supers - RC
CWS - Schlossnagle
Head to head - Schlossnagle
Career Wins - Schlossnagle
CWS Championships - Push
And just to irk you, Schlossnagle has more wins in his first appearance alone at the CWS than RC has in his entire career. (11-8 record there, 3 wins his first appearance)
That's not even a question. I don't think Rob is getting fired this year, but he's not getting an extension, either, no matter the circumstances. If he comes to the AD and says, he's got an offer from Nebraska, I think the response will be, good luck and see you down the road.EMIN was WOW! said:
The question is if NU comes with a good offer, is it worth it for A&M to extend Childress (he has two years remaining on his contract) and be on the hook for whatever buyout comes with that or let Childress walk.
I think it is the best thing for both parties to walk away if that ends up being the case. Childress should not turn down a nice guaranteed contract from NU, and A&M should not guarantee Childress any more money than they already have.
AnScAggie said:
Why do so many believe that we have to get a big name coach? Tadlock at Tech only had juco head coaching experience and was an assistant at both Oklahoma and Tech before leading them to 3 and what looks like will be 4 CWS trips. Many very successful head coaches, were only assistants before getting their chance and succeeding. I do believe that RC helps us get good pitching, so maybe we take a step back in that department without a proven coach. However, we've proven for years how effectively we can waste first round talent so I do not think that taking a chance on the right up and coming coach is that big of a risk.
AggieBill005 said:AnScAggie said:
Why do so many believe that we have to get a big name coach? Tadlock at Tech only had juco head coaching experience and was an assistant at both Oklahoma and Tech before leading them to 3 and what looks like will be 4 CWS trips. Many very successful head coaches, were only assistants before getting their chance and succeeding. I do believe that RC helps us get good pitching, so maybe we take a step back in that department without a proven coach. However, we've proven for years how effectively we can waste first round talent so I do not think that taking a chance on the right up and coming coach is that big of a risk.
I asked about assistants earlier in this thread with no response. We've got a better shot there...
yesswimmerbabe11 said:
Was it that most recent interview? He's been interviewed by Bock like 80 times.
CoachO_08 said:
If you are talking about assistants the list should start and end with Saarloos at TCU.