RPag said:
Any idea why Hall would be picked up before Scherff? Alex seemed to be well ahead in all the projections so it must have been reservations about him being signable in the end, right? Would seem to be good news for the good guys.
Definitely signability. The longer we go, the better the Ags chance with Alex. I would estimate that if we don't hear Alex's name by the end of the 3rd round, you won't hear his name until Day 3 when a team takes a flyer against him. Day 3 picks that don't sign do not affect the draft pool money.RPag said:
Any idea why Hall would be picked up before Scherff? Alex seemed to be well ahead in all the projections so it must have been reservations about him being signable in the end, right? Would seem to be good news for the good guys.
Likely signability which would be good news for the good guys. I assume he's asking for more than $750k which is about the top of the 3rd round bonus money. Saw this tweet from a fort worth reporter...RPag said:
Any idea why Hall would be picked up before Scherff? Alex seemed to be well ahead in all the projections so it must have been reservations about him being signable in the end, right? Would seem to be good news for the good guys.
It's the same concept as signing someone below slot early to use towards players later on. If the Twins saved $1 million on the #1 overall pick, they could apply that million to a $1.1 million offer to a Round 11 guy.Sean98 said:
True, but Day 3 picks who sign for more than $100k count against the bonus pool (the amount in excess of $100k).
Mr.Ackar07 said:It's the same concept as signing someone below slot early to use towards players later on. If the Twins saved $1 million on the #1 overall pick, they could apply that million to a $1.1 million offer to a Round 11 guy.Sean98 said:
True, but Day 3 picks who sign for more than $100k count against the bonus pool (the amount in excess of $100k).
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Penalties: Here are the penalties that are assessed to clubs that pay bonuses over their allotted bonus pool.
0- 5% over- 75% tax on the overage
5- 10% over- 75 % tax on the overage and loss of the team's first round pick the next year
10- 15% over- 100% tax on the overage and loss of the team's first and second round picks next year
More than 15% over- 100% tax on the overage, and loss of the first round picks in the next two years' drafts
This. From a money standpoint, only the very top picks are really having to make a hard economic decision. It's more about chasing the dream, and the preferred path to do it. If your dream is playing major league baseball, the fact that a team is willing to draft you high, and spend the bonus money on you is more important as a sign of their commitment to your development than it is to your financial future (although that is of some consequence, too). Most of the kids whose heads would be turned by the money will blow it in a couple of years. Their aren't many kids that will take that $400k and invest it, as we contemplate when talking about these hypotheticals arguing over whether a kid should sign or go to school. Almost all of them are going to blow $50k on a car. The exceptions are probably the kids like Kohl Stewart who come from a better financial situation to start with.W said:
remember Uncle Sam gets a nice chunk of that signing bonus plus 3-5% to the agent.
so a $750k payout...shrinks to the $400k range fairly quick
The way I've seen the rules stated, the bonus pool can be used on any draftee or free agent signing during that year. The excess over $100,000 on anyone drafted after the 10th round or signed in free agency counts against the bonus pool. If Team A has $10,000,000 in total bonus pool money, and they spend $9,000,000 on their first 10 round picks, a player in round 15 that agrees to sign for $600,000 would reduce their remaining $1,000,000 of bonus pool money by $500,000; that would leave Team A with an additional $500,000 to spend. The use of the Bonus Pool is not restricted to just the first 10 rounds, only the aggregation of the bonus pool is determined by the first 10 rounds.Sean98 said:
CapCity is correct. Using $1m on a round 10 pick is fine. If you use it on an 11th Round pick it will cost you luxury taxes and you lose future draft picks.
I posted this on the previous page, but here it is again.Quote:
Penalties: Here are the penalties that are assessed to clubs that pay bonuses over their allotted bonus pool.
0- 5% over- 75% tax on the overage
5- 10% over- 75 % tax on the overage and loss of the team's first round pick the next year
10- 15% over- 100% tax on the overage and loss of the team's first and second round picks next year
More than 15% over- 100% tax on the overage, and loss of the first round picks in the next two years' drafts
All the good kids have agents in college and some high school, they just are called advisors instead of agents.Agsuffering@bulaw said:
I get that Uncle Sam gets his, but I bet the payout could be structured over several years to lessen the blow and maybe move things around to offset some of it. And the kids contemplating going to college have not hired agents. My understanding is that it would make them ineligible, so dad or whomever negotiates for them
Would they be able to go over the 40-75 slot money? My understanding is he fell from there because he couldn't be signed in that range. I get the pooling savings from other players and being able to pay more later, but, if he could be signed for the 40-75 slot money, wouldn't someone have taken him there?FTACof2011 said:
Moreso than the round he's picked is who picks him. Teams like Minnesota saved a bunch of money in the first round by selecting people that they will be able to sign to under slot deals, so they will have extra money to throw onto his offer whether they draft him in the 3rd or 10th round.
He was in JUCO and committed to OK State.AustinAg2012 said:
Dammit... Well, for us.
Didn't get along with RCBen Puig 97 said:
Why did he transfer? Can't remember.
Supposedly playing time/conflict with Childress in regards to one-on-one coachingBen Puig 97 said:
Why did he transfer? Can't remember.
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Alex Scherff RHP 6-2, 195, R/R Colleyville, Texas (Grapevine HS)
MikeM1960 said:He was in JUCO and committed to OK State.AustinAg2012 said:
Dammit... Well, for us.
