***Official Aggies vs. 2017 MLB Draft Thread***

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Mr.Ackar07
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Draft starts in less than 2 weeks

D1 released their updated Top 100 list: https://d1baseball.com/analysis/d1baseballprep-baseball-report-top-100/

Corbin Martin (44), Alex Scherff (60), and Adam Hall (87) all appear on the list.

They will also have a Q&A about the upcoming draft this afternoon.
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Snipits from D1's draft chat: https://d1baseball.com/chats/d1baseballpbr-draft-experts-chat/

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Comment From Bret

The more I read about the college arms in the draft, the more I find red flags. Outside of Wright, McKay and Bukauskas, it seems like there's reasons to worry about most of them: Faedo's knees, Canning's innings, Houck's velocity/delivery. Is that a common thought about this draft class, or am I off-base?

Frankie Piliere:

You're not wrong, but there's a couple guys that you shouldn't discount. As Faedo and Houck have slipped slightly. we've seen David Peterson flourish. He could go in the top 15 now and it's more than warranted. And on the JC side, there's Nate Pearson hitting 101 and looking superb at just the right moment. That second tier is a bit flimsy, I agree, but I like the depth of the third tier. Wil Crowe is down there, Spencer Howard, Corbin Martin. There are a lot of guys I know I'd like to have.
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Comment From Oren

What rounds can you see intriguing Canadian preps Landon Leach and Adam Hall landing?

Nathan Rode:

I could see anywhere from second round on for Leach. Probably third or later for Hall.
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Comment From Aggie Fan

Do you see any of Corbin Martin, Brigham Hill, Turner Larkins, Kaylor Chafin, or Cason Sherrod coming back to A&M for a senior season?

Frankie Piliere:

I think it's possible with all of them with the big exception of Corbin Martin. I think he goes in the first 60 picks and will be on his way to pro ball.
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Comment From Pops

Any chance Alex Scherff or Adam Hall make it to A&M? Is there anyone else in their class that is a risk to sign as well?

Nathan Rode:

I really don't know what to think on Scherff right now. I'd say 50-50. It could go either way. In the fall, I would've said Hall wouldn't make it, but now I'm not so sure. I'd lean toward him going high enough to sign, but I'm not convicted about it. Jack Conlon had some improvements from last summer/fall and has a chance to go. I think DeLoach gets to campus. Some guys like Asa Lacy, but I think he still makes it. Aggies will get Tylor Fischer. If that staff can find a way to get him to throw more strikes...Look. Out.
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A&M just got another high school commit: Chandler Jozwiak
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10 days until the draft!

Here's another prospect list from early May:

http://herosports.com/mlb-draft/top-125-prospects-bukauskas-haseley-canning-heatherly-c6c6

40. Alex Scherff
55. Corbin Martin
58. Adam Hall
113. Asa Lacy

It's looking more like it will come down to signability for Scherff and Hall. How much are they looking to sign for vs. how much a team is willing to pay based on where they fall in the draft.
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Mr.Ackar07 said:

MLB Pipeline Top 100: http://m.mlb.com/prospects/2017?list=draft

I'm not sure when this was last updated:

32nd: Corbin Martin
51st: Alex Scherff
87th: Asa Lacy
88th: Adam Hall
mlb.com updated their Top 100 list. Both Asa Lacy and Adam Hall are no longer among the Top 100. They will supposedly release their 101-200 rankings tomorrow.

32nd: Corbin Martin - no movement
52nd: Alex Scherff - dropped 1 spot

The draft is a week from Monday
Justanotherposter
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MLB released their top 200 draft prospects today:
Corbin Martin: 32
Alex Scherff: 52
Adam Hall: 116
Asa Lacy: 125
Brigham Hill: 160
Mr.Ackar07
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This should be the Ags selling point for Asa Lacy from mlb.com:

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One of the more projectable pitchers in the Draft, he could turn into a 2020 first-rounder if he decides to attend college.
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Justanotherposter said:

MLB released their top 200 draft prospects today:
Corbin Martin: 32
Alex Scherff: 52
Adam Hall: 116
Asa Lacy: 125
Brigham Hill: 160


Jack Conlon: 176
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Mr.Ackar07 said:

Justanotherposter said:

MLB released their top 200 draft prospects today:
Corbin Martin: 32
Alex Scherff: 52
Adam Hall: 116
Asa Lacy: 125
Brigham Hill: 160


Jack Conlon: 176

Forgot about him. Thanks.
Mr.Ackar07
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Baseball America just released their Top 500 list: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft-preview/

56. Corbin Martin
60. Alex Scherff
100. Adam Hall
177. Asa Lacy
240. Jack Conlon
247. Tylor Fischer
294. Zach DeLoach
303. Tyler Ivey
347. Brigham Hill
348. Cason Sherrod
478. Nick Choruby

Nice to see Sherrod and Choruby make the list
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One positive note this year. The draft will take place after the Super Regionals. Last year, the draft was going on during the Super Regional round.
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SB Nation released a Mock 4 round draft a few days ago: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2017/6/3/15735390/2017-minor-league-ball-community-mock-draft-after-action-discussion

2nd Round; 56th Overall: Corbin Martin
2nd Round; 66th Overall: Alex Scherff
3rd Round; 78th Overall: Adam Hall
4th Round; 109th Overall: Asa Lacy
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http://www.astrosfuture.com/2017/04/astros-draft-prospect-profile-corbin-martin-rhp-texas/

Astros Future has a nice write-up on Corbin Martin's draft profile:

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Draft Round:

It is difficult to project Martin in the draft. On one end, he has great stuff, a high powered fastball and has had a solid season. On the other, he has struggled with command and has a career walk rate of 5.7 BB/9. In March Baseball America had him ranked #87 in their top 100 draft prospects. He could end up a power reliever, which still has value. So let's go with Rounds 2-4.

MLB Comp: Shelby Miller

Given his size (6'3, 200 lbs), repertoire (power fastball, curve, change) and delivery. I think a solid MLB comp for Martin is current Diamondbacks pitcher, Shelby Miller.
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Here's a nice article on MLB scouts and High School prospects featuring Alex Scherff: https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/high-school/high-schools/2017/04/12/inside-process-like-balance-top-mlb-draft-prospect-playing-high-school-baseball

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But one thing separates most: whether they'll sign.

"That's all of it," Scott said.

If a player drafted in the first 10 rounds doesn't sign, teams lose the slotted money assigned to that pick.

"If there is some doubt, you can't waste a draft pick," Scott said. "You've got to get to the bottom of it whether they come out and tell you or it's just your gut feeling."

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While Scherff, signed to Texas A&M, follows the rankings for fun, he joined Lutz in saying he's just focused on now.
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And here's a Cubs draft profile on Scherff: https://cubscentral.wordpress.com/2017/03/18/draft-profile-alex-scherff-involves-a-lot-of-risk-as-a-pick/
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Areas of Concern

Signability

Mr.Ackar07
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The Canadian Baseball Network has a great profile on Adam Hall and documents how he has fallen a bit on draft boards: https://www.canadianbaseballnetwork.com/2017-draft-list-players//adam-hall

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Hall was one of the standouts on the summer showcase circuit last year, showing outstanding 6.29 speed in the sixty and lots of athleticism that was sure keep him in the middle of the infield for many years to come. He hit surprisingly well given his slender young build, with very quick hands and plenty of power to all fields. He had multiple extra base hits, including a no doubt home run, at the heavily scouted Area Code Games and was a Perfect Game All-American in addition to the top Canadian in the PG class rankings.
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Hall's name has been conspicuously absent from discussions with scouts and cross checkers as the draft nears, however. Scouts have reported that his bat speed on the Canadian National 18U team's annual spring trip to Florida, where most top Canadian prospects are cross checked, was down from last summer with a less aggressive approach at the plate.
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Bleacher Report released their Top 100 list: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2713785-mlb-draft-big-board-2017-bleacher-reports-complete-predraft-rankings

45. Corbin Martin
58. Alex Scherff
97. Adam Hall
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Scout.com released their Mock Draft 1.0 featuring the first round plus the first pick for teams who did not have a first round pick. Asa Lacy popped up on the latter list for the Indians: http://www.scout.com/mlb/scouting/story/1777718-2017-mlb-draft-mock-1-0

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64. Cleveland Indians Asa Lacy, LHP, Tivy HS (TX)

Lacy fits the Indians high school pitcher profile to a T. He turns 18 at the beginning of June, making him young for his class. He has a strong feel for pitching and well developed secondary offerings with his curve and change. He is also a plus athlete. He is 6'3" and weighs 190, but it is easy to see him adding velocity as he adds weight. He isn't as lanky as Tristan Mckenzie, but the basic build reminds me a little of him. Lacy checks every box for the Indians and should fit into their allotted pool money. As a bonus, Cleveland media can have a field day, as Tivy High School is also where Johnny Manziel went.
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Just want to say thanks. This is a great thread.
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Baseball America released their state draft report (rankings of prospects by state): http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-state-draft-report-texas/#urUydvQSZTIIZyA4.97

These are the highlights from the Texas list:
4. Corbin Martin
5. Alex Scherff
13. Asa Lacy
17. Jack Conlon
18. Tylor Fischer
24. Zach DeLoach
27. Tyler Ivey
30. Brigham Hill
31. Cason Sherrod
41. Nick Choruby

All of the above appeared on their Top 500 list a few posts up. The below are names outside of the BA Top 500.

50. Kaylor Chafin
53. Turner Larkins
83. Cole Bedford

I would assume based on this list that Kaylor and Turner would be in the top 600/700 if they had released that list.
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This shouldn't be a surprise, but in Baseball America's state breakouts, Adam Hall rankes 2nd in Canada:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-state-draft-report-canada/#mm9JhvehqvZfAAUR.97

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The Great White North isn't as exciting as it was in 2015, but there are a number of intriguing prospects. Adam Hall entered the spring with a chance to be a day one draft pickand he still could go highbut he was surpassed by fresh-armed righthander Landon Leach as the top prospect in the country.

Read more at http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-state-draft-report-canada/#rWO6XQwcUEursEyo.99
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For their Kansas stock report (Hutchinson JC is in Kansas), only Nolan Hoffman is listed. Helman did not make the cut: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-state-draft-report-kansas/#tViOwkLY43fwmFk7.97

3. Nolan Hoffman
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Mr.Ackar07 said:

For their Kansas stock report (Hutchinson JC is in Kansas), only Nolan Hoffman is listed. Helman did not make the cut: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-state-draft-report-kansas/#tViOwkLY43fwmFk7.97

3. Nolan Hoffman


Is there any reason he did not make the cut? He was batting .487 this season with 17 home runs.
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Aggies1322 said:

Mr.Ackar07 said:

For their Kansas stock report (Hutchinson JC is in Kansas), only Nolan Hoffman is listed. Helman did not make the cut: http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/2017-state-draft-report-kansas/#tViOwkLY43fwmFk7.97

3. Nolan Hoffman


Is there any reason he did not make the cut? He was batting .487 this season with 17 home runs.
No clue. I don't have a BA subscription, so I'm not sure what their cutoff is. Some states like Texas and California list over 50 names, others like Kansas list less than 10.
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Here's the schedule for the next 3 days:

Monday, June 12th @ 5pm CT - coverage begins (pre-draft show) on MLB Network (pre-show and round 1 coverage only) & mlb.com (all coverage)
Monday, June 12th @ 6pm CT - Rounds 1, Competitive Balance Round A, Round 2, and Competitive Balance Round B (75 total picks)

Tuesday, June 13th @ 11:30 CT - Rounds 3-10 (picks 75-315) on mlb.com

Wednesday, June 14th @ 11am CT (picks 316 until teams stop picking) on mlb.com


I'll update the OP as Aggies get picked (doesn't necessarily mean they will sign).

How to watch: http://m.mlb.com/news/article/234976516/how-to-watch-the-2017-mlb-draft-on-june-12-14/
Bonus Pool & Pick Values: http://m.mlb.com/news/article/223686792/2017-mlb-draft-bonus-pools-pick-values/
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Roughly how long does it take to figure out whether they sign or not?
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Aggies1322 said:

Roughly how long does it take to figure out whether they sign or not?
I haven't seen the deadline for this year yet. Last year's was July 15th (draft started on June 9th).

A player can sign that night or wait until the deadline to sign. Any time in between is fair game, so patience is a virtue.
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Aggies1322 said:

Roughly how long does it take to figure out whether they sign or not?

I think the lowest percentage of first ten round picks to sign the last 3 years is like 97.5%. Last year, only two players drafted in the first ten rounds didn't sign. So basically, if a guy is picked in the first ten rounds, he's pretty much gone. Those slots are so valuable to teams, thay usually have a pretty good indication of what it'll take to sign a player before selecting him.
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Basketball and Chain said:

Aggies1322 said:

Roughly how long does it take to figure out whether they sign or not?

I think the lowest percentage of first ten round picks to sign the last 3 years is like 97.5%. Last year, only two players drafted in the first ten rounds didn't sign. So basically, if a guy is picked in the first ten rounds, he's pretty much gone. Those slots are so valuable to teams, thay usually have a pretty good indication of what it'll take to sign a player before selecting him.
That is horribly disappointing.
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This prevented has increased quite a bit in recent years with rule changes. The teams have salary pools for the first 10 Rounds. If they draft a player in those rounds and he doesn't sign they lose his salary number from the pool. So they are drafting a lot more college seniors higher than they used to, then they pay him under slot, and use the excess money to pay the underclassmen.

In short, like the poster above said, they make very certain that they can sign players they draft in the top rounds or they don't draft them.

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If a team does not sign a player in the first 10 rounds, the slot value for that player is deducted from the bonus pool. So, a team can't draft a really great prospect and pay him all the money, while ignoring the other picks. If a team signs a player for less than their slot value, the extra money can be used on another pick.
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Basketball and Chain said:

Aggies1322 said:

Roughly how long does it take to figure out whether they sign or not?

I think the lowest percentage of first ten round picks to sign the last 3 years is like 97.5%. Last year, only two players drafted in the first ten rounds didn't sign. So basically, if a guy is picked in the first ten rounds, he's pretty much gone. Those slots are so valuable to teams, thay usually have a pretty good indication of what it'll take to sign a player before selecting him.
This is not accurate for high school players. We could easily have 3 high school players who have committed to the Ags drafted tomorrow who will come to A&M.
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Fingers crossed for that scenario
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aginlakeway said:

Basketball and Chain said:

Aggies1322 said:

Roughly how long does it take to figure out whether they sign or not?

I think the lowest percentage of first ten round picks to sign the last 3 years is like 97.5%. Last year, only two players drafted in the first ten rounds didn't sign. So basically, if a guy is picked in the first ten rounds, he's pretty much gone. Those slots are so valuable to teams, thay usually have a pretty good indication of what it'll take to sign a player before selecting him.
This is not accurate for high school players. We could easily have 3 high school players who have committed to the Ags drafted tomorrow who will come to A&M.


No, that is accurate. With the new (relatively) rules with slot allocations for rounds 1-10, a team will not draft a player that doesn't agree in advance to sign for a certain amount. So a team about to be on the clock would go to Alex Scherff and say "we'll pick you here if you agree to a signing bonus of $x, xxx, xxx." If he hesitates or says no, they go to the next guy on their board. If Scherff's number is high, then he won't be drafted despite his high projection.
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Good to know. So if he slides that's why.
Sean98
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Hop said:


No, that is accurate. With the new (relatively) rules with slot allocations for rounds 1-10, a team will not draft a player that doesn't agree in advance to sign for a certain amount. So a team about to be on the clock would go to Alex Scherff and say "we'll pick you here if you agree to a signing bonus of $x, xxx, xxx." If he hesitates or says no, they go to the next guy on their board. If Scherff's number is high, then he won't be drafted despite his high projection.

If a team likes him, they'll draft him. If they have to pay over slot for him they'll draft a few more college seniors (who have no leverage). We've seen that a lot the last few years. A 12th round senior getting drafted in the 7th round but getting 12th round money. It strokes the kids ego by making him a Top 10 pick, and gives the team additional bonus pool money to spend on a guy like Scherff.

But fingers crossed, he'll slide enough to make it to Olsen.
 
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