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TNT's broadcast lists Nico Harrison:
— NBACentel (@TheNBACentel) February 26, 2025
“FINESSED BY ROB PELINKA.” 💀😭 pic.twitter.com/2ckEYRnax0
Luka Dončić was asked if facing the Dallas Mavericks gave him closure about the trade.
— Grant Afseth (@GrantAfseth) February 26, 2025
"The closure is going to take a while, I think... It's not ideal, but like I said, I'm glad this game is over. There's a lot of emotions, but we go little by little, and every day is better." pic.twitter.com/cl4Wfvifc2
Man this makes me sick.
Nico is such a west coast 8itch.
Zachary Klement said:TNT's broadcast lists Nico Harrison:
— NBACentel (@TheNBACentel) February 26, 2025
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Boomer
I think it is pretty easy to argue actually. The Mavs currently have +6600 title odds. That is an implied probability of 1.5%. Mavs have better odds to get Cooper Flagg at this point.gigem1223 said:
This team is absolutely a title contender when healthy. Not sure how you can even argue that. The question is, will they get healthy?
Beyond that there are obvious issues. Starting with health concerns. I would reject any injury excuse coming from Nico because he literally traded for multiple injured players. The "star player" that was traded for is a well known injury meme. You can't trade for injured players and injury memes then complain about injuries.
The second obvious issue is guard play, specifically point guard play. To expect 33 year old Kyrie with a bulging disc in his back to drag the Mavs through a play-in plus 4 rounds (all on the road) isn't unrealistic. Dinwiddie and Exum would then be heavily relied on to provide shot creation (for themselves and others) which isn't realistic. As great as Kyrie is he is still better at creating his own shot than for others.
The Mavs potentially have great front court and wing play. What they need is an elite all-NBA PG to pair with Kyrie. That would make them title contenders. It's unfortunate that they don't have one of those.
Maybe they could get Jalen Brunson to fill that role?
Yeah, injuries and age can't be a shield. This was known yet somehow dismissed by Nico. Seeing this group make it through 4 playoff series seems like a ling shot, if they can even get to the playoffs healthy
Agree with all of this. If the mavs won the finals I think they would be the team with the worst odds in a very very long time. Teams that are 60+/1 to win the finals this late in the year just don't win the finals. It's ignoring reality to act like they are title contenders. Their odds tanked immediately when the trade was made and have gotten worse since then, and it's foolish to assume the Vegas odds aren't accurate.
I also think it's ironic to complain that we could win more games if we could just make more shots or shoot better. We traded away the best playmaker and creator in the game for an injured big man. And we no longer have any playmakers or shot creators other than Kyrie. We are going to shoot poorly and struggle on offense. I know it will seem like we are missing easy shots or should make more shots but that's life when you only have one creator. Thats why the trade was so mind numbingly dumb.
I cant think of a recent champion who had guard play like we have. After Kyrie, it's so ugly.
I also think it's ironic to complain that we could win more games if we could just make more shots or shoot better. We traded away the best playmaker and creator in the game for an injured big man. And we no longer have any playmakers or shot creators other than Kyrie. We are going to shoot poorly and struggle on offense. I know it will seem like we are missing easy shots or should make more shots but that's life when you only have one creator. Thats why the trade was so mind numbingly dumb.
I cant think of a recent champion who had guard play like we have. After Kyrie, it's so ugly.
I agree that any second person who can handle the ball is needed. A lot of that can be alleviated by running offense through AD, which we saw plenty of in the Houston game.
Dinwiddie scares the daylights out of me, because he could decide at any moment that it's time for Dinwiddie to shine. Exum showed last year that he can't be trusted in the playoffs.
But the defense would be so elite, that the Mavs would be terrifying in every series.
The Vegas odds are what they are because of the injuries. It's all hypothetical, but if AD and Lively are able to play in a play-in game, those odds shorten a ton. If the Mavs are one of the 8 and have AD + Lively and/or Gafford, they probably have the 3rd best odds in the west. Lakers may have lower odds only because the public is stupid and sees LeBron and Luka, not realizing that team is not good.
I know it seems grim for people who watched a Mavs game for the first time since Christmas last night. We have been without Luka for 2 months now. I know people want to think being without him is a new phenomenon but it isn't. The team has been fighting and scrapping and they are really easy to root for. They are going to stay afloat and everybody in the west is going to be terrified if we get the centers back for the playoffs.
Dinwiddie scares the daylights out of me, because he could decide at any moment that it's time for Dinwiddie to shine. Exum showed last year that he can't be trusted in the playoffs.
But the defense would be so elite, that the Mavs would be terrifying in every series.
The Vegas odds are what they are because of the injuries. It's all hypothetical, but if AD and Lively are able to play in a play-in game, those odds shorten a ton. If the Mavs are one of the 8 and have AD + Lively and/or Gafford, they probably have the 3rd best odds in the west. Lakers may have lower odds only because the public is stupid and sees LeBron and Luka, not realizing that team is not good.
I know it seems grim for people who watched a Mavs game for the first time since Christmas last night. We have been without Luka for 2 months now. I know people want to think being without him is a new phenomenon but it isn't. The team has been fighting and scrapping and they are really easy to root for. They are going to stay afloat and everybody in the west is going to be terrified if we get the centers back for the playoffs.
The Mavs actually have been shooting well recently. Last night was a lid on the basket game for sure where we missed several layups.
Mavs have been winning games recently because they are playing small and scoring. Until the last 2 games, the Mavs had been scoring 111+ in every game since the Philly game.
The Mavs had 65 points in the first half of the Rockets game with AD.
Mavs have been winning games recently because they are playing small and scoring. Until the last 2 games, the Mavs had been scoring 111+ in every game since the Philly game.
The Mavs had 65 points in the first half of the Rockets game with AD.
For whatever it's worth, as an OKC fan, I'm more scared of full strength Mavs in a 7 game series than I am of the Lakers.
Deluxe said:
For whatever it's worth, as an OKC fan, I'm more scared of full strength Mavs in a 7 game series than I am of the Lakers.
Yeah people are having a hard time analyzing basketball right now. The Lakers do not have a good team. They have lost to charlotte and Utah in the past 2 weeks and were given everything they could handle by an injured Mavs team who played a terrible game.
OKC is a problem matchup for LAL, and that would probably be a 4 game series.
The Dallas Mavericks reportedly had an issue with Luka Dončić smoking hookah and drinking beer, per @TheAthletic
— NBACentral (@TheDunkCentral) February 26, 2025
“Make no mistake, the people who witnessed Dončić’s last days in Dallas do not paint a flattering portrait of the 25-year-old’s professionalism. They call him lazy.… pic.twitter.com/MgopdlCH2J
Why does stuff like this keep coming out? Seems like the Mavs are absolutely trying to hammer this narrative to justify the move.
Because people like you refuse to believe it despite it being a well documented concern the entire time he was here?
It's not a justification after the fact, it's the entire reason for the trade and it was stated at the time.
It's not a justification after the fact, it's the entire reason for the trade and it was stated at the time.
Just heard the Mavs were 17/46 on shots in the paint last night.
There's your data for how bad it was. That should be at least 50% and it was a lot of shots at the rim which are 60-75% propositions. It was bad.
There's your data for how bad it was. That should be at least 50% and it was a lot of shots at the rim which are 60-75% propositions. It was bad.
"They predict his basketball demise, highlighting a health history that, as some see it, will likely lead to catastrophe in the next five years or so."
Mavs will be in NBA hell in the "next five years or so" is probably a better prediction.
Mavs will be in NBA hell in the "next five years or so" is probably a better prediction.
People aren't refusing to believe the guy likes beer and isn't doing crossfit 5 times a week. This coping argument conveniently forgets what Luka has been leading this team to while smoking hookah, drinking beer, slamming hookers, and whatever hell else anonymous sources want to throw out as a future prediction of where his health goes.shack009 said:
Because people like you refuse to believe it despite it being a well documented concern the entire time he was here?
It's not a justification after the fact, it's the entire reason for the trade and it was stated at the time.
Maybe people will be right and his body will fall apart in the "near 5 years or so". Where will the Mavs be?
And if you're trading the dude you try and get a Teixeira package so that maybe maybe maybe you get lucky and hit on some draft picks. But %99 of the time if you trade a mid twenties superstar/all nba player you lose that trade.
Not paying that guy nearly half the cap.
Again, you're assuming/predicting he'll be injured. Maybe you'll end up right and you'll feel even better about the trade. But the guy we are paying similar money to is living up to his nickname at the moment.shack009 said:
Not paying that guy nearly half the cap.
The fact they traded him for 32 year old street clothes invalidates most "worried about him being on the court" arguments
Agree we shot poorly in the paint. But when's e have no playmakers I think that'll happen more. A big part of the shots missed at the rim or in the pain was pj trying to create his own shot and struggling to make anything. That's not his game at all. But he has to try that now without Luka. So I think the more will be quite a few games where it seems like we are shooting terrible from the paint. Our numbers will be much lower than before bc we won't have Luka setting up lobs and layups to other guys and don't really have anyone on the team now to do that.
But I agree that last night wa worse than what it typically will be.
But I agree that last night wa worse than what it typically will be.
And what in the ever-loving f *ck was trading Grimes for an injured player about? How is that for "win now"?jeffdjohnson said:
The Mavs potentially have great front court and wing play. What they need is an elite all-NBA PG to pair with Kyrie. That would make them title contenders. It's unfortunate that they don't have one of those.
Nico is either a total idiot or has the worst luck....we all know it's the former.
dave94 said:And what in the ever-loving f *ck was trading Grimes for an injured player about? How is that for "win now"?jeffdjohnson said:
The Mavs potentially have great front court and wing play. What they need is an elite all-NBA PG to pair with Kyrie. That would make them title contenders. It's unfortunate that they don't have one of those.
Nico is either a total idiot or has the worst luck....we all know it's the former.
Been discussed a million times
But nights like last night, when we could have used some (any) additional offense, make it even more apparent.shack009 said:dave94 said:And what in the ever-loving f *ck was trading Grimes for an injured player about? How is that for "win now"?jeffdjohnson said:
The Mavs potentially have great front court and wing play. What they need is an elite all-NBA PG to pair with Kyrie. That would make them title contenders. It's unfortunate that they don't have one of those.
Nico is either a total idiot or has the worst luck....we all know it's the former.
Been discussed a million times
And everything you've said has been said by you a million times, lol
Everything yall say has been said billions of times across platforms…
the hookah and beer **** is such a smoke screen to cover up how re tarded the move was. Such bs. I predict he won't have a basketball collapse and catastrophe in the next 5 years, as would anyone with a brain and eyeballs. We can all use ourselves as personal evidence -- I binge drank into my late 20s, smoked weed like a teenager into my mid 30s and loved IPAs. Turns out I also was able to work out 5-6x a week, skied and snowboarded, ran trails, climbed mountains, did crossfit, etc. Was it 2-4 NBA games a week? No, but I was extremely active....on top of working 50-65 hours a week. I was basically invincible until 35 and guaranteed I drank and smoked a lot more than Luka, and with no full time trainers or nutritionists behind me to offset the junk food, beers and joints. He's good for 9 more years, at least. I'm no mathematician, but I think 9 is more than 5.
"Basketball demise".....give me a ****ing break. Will he maybe be injured more than the average bear? Sure, I'll give you that...but we're 100% NOT seeing Luka's basketball demise in 5 years. FFS.
"Basketball demise".....give me a ****ing break. Will he maybe be injured more than the average bear? Sure, I'll give you that...but we're 100% NOT seeing Luka's basketball demise in 5 years. FFS.
mshack009 said:
Everything yall say has been said billions of times across platforms…
Perhaps Nico's folks should stop leaking out info to run him down.
Nonsense. It will be at least 5 years until Dallas wins another 7 game playoff series. They may never win another one while located in Dallas prior to moving to LV.Deluxe said:
For whatever it's worth, as an OKC fan, I'm more scared of full strength Mavs in a 7 game series than I am of the Lakers.
South Platte said:Nonsense. It will be at least 5 years until Dallas wins another 7 game playoff series. They may never win another one while located in Dallas prior to moving to LV.Deluxe said:
For whatever it's worth, as an OKC fan, I'm more scared of full strength Mavs in a 7 game series than I am of the Lakers.
It's more likely they win a playoff series this year than not win one at all for the next 5.
Nico is such a health ****** ***** that he thinks leaking this stuff will make fans turn to his side. When in reality it's the opposite. If Luka likes beer then that makes him more relatable and likable to fans. He's not some athlete robot made in a lab.
Everything Nico does just makes it worse.
Everything Nico does just makes it worse.
I'm ready for him to quit or die. Whichever is cleaner.mavsfan4ever said:
Everything Nico does just makes it worse.
South Platte said:Nonsense. It will be at least 5 years until Dallas wins another 7 game playoff series. They may never win another one while located in Dallas prior to moving to LV.Deluxe said:
For whatever it's worth, as an OKC fan, I'm more scared of full strength Mavs in a 7 game series than I am of the Lakers.
That's a shiny hook
Radio had a good point this morning that the Mavs have been winning the games lately by working hard as hell because of all the injuries, something that really isn't sustainable long term. Even if the team gets healthy, you've got guys who are gonna be totally spent by the time the playoffs get here.
Definitely worried about Kyrie. They are wearing his ass out
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