Infection_Ag11 said:
mavsfan4ever said:
What is absurd about the claim that they were initially discussing a deal that involved more assets going to Dallas? Common sense says that happened. And if it didn't, then that means Nico's initial offer was asking for AD, Christie, and one first and nothing more.
Because that's not the claim that was made, it was the claim substituted for the actual claim once it was pointed out how laughably absurd said claim was.
This whole discussion started with a video clip stating as fact that Dallas and LA had a deal, and then Nico was pressured/bullied into accepting a lesser deal for the same return after that. It was then pointed out how unbelievable that is and how that doesn't happen, and so the argument was paraphrased and edit by some here to attempt to claim it was making a less absurd claim.
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So if you think the claim is absurd, that means you believe that Nico didn't ask for another first or another good young player? That's even more absurd if true (and like I said makes Nico look even worse).
No, I believe there was a back and forth until the deal as it happened was ironed out. I do not believe that a deal was ironed out and then Nico was shoved into a locker until he agreed to less because that isn't a believable claim. It was, however, the claim that was made.
You're both taking hyper levels of analysis on language from a guy speaking off the cuff that doesn't exist in real world communication. When someone says the deal was x it does not mean it was agreed upon. The deal is not finalized until it is submitted to the league office.
The narrative around this is that Nico thought he needed to keep the negotiations secret, kept it tight on the Mavs side between him and Dumont, and relied on his friendship with Pelinka during the process. That the deal was being negotiated at Luka for AD + Knecht + 2 firsts and that Pelinka requested to speak with Luka's agent before proceeding with the trade and that Nico, fearful that Luka's agent would flip his **** over the deal, because it would cost his client $116m, backed off the extra assets, agreed with Pelinka it exposed the Lakers to additional risk without communication with the agent and accepted the lesser offer of AD + Christie + 1 pick.
That is not an absurd narrative, because the Lakers would have accepted the deal for AD + Knecht and 2 first round picks even without talking to Luka's agent, because they're not as dumb as Nico.
