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🚨BREAKING: Arsenal have had a £20million bid rejected by Fenerbahce for 24-year-old Ferdi Kadioglu.
— now.arsenal (@now_arsenaI) May 22, 2024
According to Turkish outlet Milliyet, The Gunners are expected to return with an improved offer of £20million plus £5million in bonuses, totaling £25million.
Kadioglu, under… pic.twitter.com/i6xTSAa0qk
Arsenal's interest in Sesko is real but they see Kai Havertz as the first choice number 9. With Sesko, the stumbling block so far is whether Sesko is willing to be the second choice number 9 behind Kai and whether he is willing to play on the wing at the interim @Teamnewsandtix
— The Bottom Corner (@thebottomcorna) May 22, 2024
🚨 Arsenal are in the market for Feyenoord goalkeeper Justin Bijlow (26) & they will decide whether to press ahead with him in the next few days. Bijlow could be available for around the £10m mark. [@johncrossmirror] #afc pic.twitter.com/tBwUd8Hgh9
— afcstuff (@afcstuff) May 22, 2024
Why would a 26-year old keeper in a serious fight for a national team spot going into a World Cup cycle want to come to Arsenal?
Apart from a pay raise, of course.
Apart from a pay raise, of course.
No idea. I certainly wouldn't. I think the #2 GK isn't going to be a younger guy. I'd look at bringing Wojciech Szczsny if you can get him for cheap. Has 1 year left on his deal at Juventus, loves Arsenal and is still a good GK and can play with his feet.
And he could openly smoke a cigarette while on the bench, which I sort of love the image that creates.wangus12 said:
No idea. I certainly wouldn't. I think the #2 GK isn't going to be a younger guy. I'd look at bringing Wojciech Szczsny if you can get him for cheap. Has 1 year left on his deal at Juventus, loves Arsenal and is still a good GK and can play with his feet.
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Not sure I believe the Kadioglu links. He is effectively a right footed OZ and we started shifting away from OZ due to his defensive lapses.
This seems like BS. Why would you play a 6'5" guy on the wing, especially when you have Saka, Marti, Trossard & Jesus that can all play there better?wangus12 said:Arsenal's interest in Sesko is real but they see Kai Havertz as the first choice number 9. With Sesko, the stumbling block so far is whether Sesko is willing to be the second choice number 9 behind Kai and whether he is willing to play on the wing at the interim @Teamnewsandtix
— The Bottom Corner (@thebottomcorna) May 22, 2024
Only reason Bijlow makes any sense for us is the cost. I could see him possibly wanting to get out of the Dutch league and maybe thinking we could "Turner" him into a starter on a mid to upper mid tier team in a year.wangus12 said:🚨 Arsenal are in the market for Feyenoord goalkeeper Justin Bijlow (26) & they will decide whether to press ahead with him in the next few days. Bijlow could be available for around the £10m mark. [@johncrossmirror] #afc pic.twitter.com/tBwUd8Hgh9
— afcstuff (@afcstuff) May 22, 2024
Personally I would prefer a Woj or 35+yo FA with a young HG or u21 as the 3rd.
🚨The Arsenal first-team players most likely to leave the club this summer.
— now.arsenal (@now_arsenaI) May 22, 2024
🏴 Aaron Ramsdale
🏴 Eddie Nketiah
🏴 Emile Smith Rowe
🏴 Reiss Nelson
🇧🇪 Sambi Albert Lokonga
🏴 Kieran Tierney
🇵🇹 Nuno Tavares
🇵🇹 Cedric
Would you be happy for Arsenal to let all these players leave… pic.twitter.com/FfCMlgPzZd
I still wish we could figure out how to get ESR more minutes and I always thought Tierney was good, but he obviously doesn't fit what Arteta wants to do.CatD11Ag said:🚨The Arsenal first-team players most likely to leave the club this summer.
— now.arsenal (@now_arsenaI) May 22, 2024
🏴 Aaron Ramsdale
🏴 Eddie Nketiah
🏴 Emile Smith Rowe
🏴 Reiss Nelson
🇧🇪 Sambi Albert Lokonga
🏴 Kieran Tierney
🇵🇹 Nuno Tavares
🇵🇹 Cedric
Would you be happy for Arsenal to let all these players leave… pic.twitter.com/FfCMlgPzZd
The rest, try and get some money for them
Saw something yesterday that pointed out ESR, Nelson & Vieira were available for 42, 43 & 34 games respectively across all comps but still they only 474, 639 & 470 minutes. That tells you that (a) they aren't good enough for what Arteta wants to do or (b) they aren't doing what they are being asked in training.
or c) Arteta is going to kill his star players.
I fear in a couple years Arsenal are going to be wondering why some of their younger guys are playing like they are 29-30 because of all the minutes they have racked up.
I fear in a couple years Arsenal are going to be wondering why some of their younger guys are playing like they are 29-30 because of all the minutes they have racked up.
I tend to agree. I feel the team got somewhat lucky this year with none of the major players like Saliba/Gabriel/Rice/Saka/Havertz ever missing a large amount of time. There is no reason that someone like ESR couldn't at the very least give you 1000 minutes this year. He has proven he can do it at this level.
Also saw Charles Watts saying not to expect a big money move this year, but smaller moves to fill out the roster. Basically don't get your hopes up for someone like Bruno G. or Gyokeres or Isak.
Also saw Charles Watts saying not to expect a big money move this year, but smaller moves to fill out the roster. Basically don't get your hopes up for someone like Bruno G. or Gyokeres or Isak.
While I agree we could use more rotation, you have to stop and ask why. What is stopping him from playing these other guys? Why doesn't he trust them to get the job done? If he isn't gonna play them they need to be moved on so we can bring in guys he will trust.
You also need to consider that when a player is the best (or one of) in the world at their position, they are gonna play a ton of minutes. That's not an Arteta thing. It's a pro sports thing. Look at every world class player in history and they played TONS of minutes. Ronaldo has played 2000+ league minutes 19 times. Messi 15, Kroos 13, Lewandowski 15, Salah 9 (consecutive), etc.... Some may breakdown, some may not. Ideally we don't want people playing through pain but the best of the best want to play no matter what.
You also need to consider that when a player is the best (or one of) in the world at their position, they are gonna play a ton of minutes. That's not an Arteta thing. It's a pro sports thing. Look at every world class player in history and they played TONS of minutes. Ronaldo has played 2000+ league minutes 19 times. Messi 15, Kroos 13, Lewandowski 15, Salah 9 (consecutive), etc.... Some may breakdown, some may not. Ideally we don't want people playing through pain but the best of the best want to play no matter what.
Aresnal up 5-0 vs Chelsea (up 4-0 by the 65th minute): Subs off the bench at 72' used were Jorginho, OZ, Jesus, and Martinelli. Later at the 82' Viera (Saka played 82 minutes).
Subs that got 0 minutes: ESR, Nketiah.
Arsenal 6-0 vs Sheffield United: Saka subbed off at half for Vierra. Otherwise old vet subs after 60'.
ESR & Nelson got 0 minutes.
Arteta is in my opinion at risk of developing a rep of not giving younger guys playing time. I think you got to give those kids something for them to stay hungry.
Subs that got 0 minutes: ESR, Nketiah.
Arsenal 6-0 vs Sheffield United: Saka subbed off at half for Vierra. Otherwise old vet subs after 60'.
ESR & Nelson got 0 minutes.
Arteta is in my opinion at risk of developing a rep of not giving younger guys playing time. I think you got to give those kids something for them to stay hungry.
I agree. He needs to play the younger guys. Go back and look in this thread during those games and you will find posts from me begging for Nelson & ESR in particular to get minutes. But again, my question is why aren't they?
I don't think he has an issue with young players.
He trusts Saka, Marti who are both younger than Vieira, Nelson, ESR & Eddie.
He trusts Saliba who is the same age as Vieira & ESR and younger that Nelson & Eddie.
He was ready to hand Timber (same age as Saka) the starting LB spot until his injury.
So why doesn't he trust those 4?
He trusted a 20yo ESR in 21/22 when he had over 2000min and 11 goals.
So why doesn't he trust him now?
He trusted Eddie for parts of last season and earlier this. He could have and probably should have focused on buying a ST last summer but instead put faith in Eddie as backup. But Eddie lost that faith.
What did the others do/no do to lose his faith?
I don't think he has an issue with young players.
He trusts Saka, Marti who are both younger than Vieira, Nelson, ESR & Eddie.
He trusts Saliba who is the same age as Vieira & ESR and younger that Nelson & Eddie.
He was ready to hand Timber (same age as Saka) the starting LB spot until his injury.
So why doesn't he trust those 4?
He trusted a 20yo ESR in 21/22 when he had over 2000min and 11 goals.
So why doesn't he trust him now?
He trusted Eddie for parts of last season and earlier this. He could have and probably should have focused on buying a ST last summer but instead put faith in Eddie as backup. But Eddie lost that faith.
What did the others do/no do to lose his faith?
Do you think Saliba was ready to play for Arsenal a season before we brought him over?
If you go back and look at his FBRef numbers, the potential was there but his per 90 numbers at Nice weren't quite what they are and it was a 20 game example. Keeping him and starting him over White (who was playing well with Gabi) was a risk for a new manager wanting to make sure he retained his job. The Marseille loan was a bit controversial but I'm not mad we did it. It verified that he was 100% ready and I think he is perhaps a better player because of it.
I wonder if he had some "grace" time where it was find out which of the young players to ramp up as starting 11 guys and who to bring in. For ESR he suffered a big injury that probably kept him from being more like Marti. Now I think Arteta has a too much of a win this one game mentality that he might miss the need to develop and win the season or 3 seasons from now.
We were lucky in a lot of ways injury wise. Man City had 8 players get at least 10 starts in their front attacking 3. Arsenal had 7. That would be 6 if you don't include Nketia who started more out of necessity from injuries.
Grealish started 8 Champions League games but only 10 EPL games. Arsenal doesn't have a rotated top 3 player like that.
We were lucky in a lot of ways injury wise. Man City had 8 players get at least 10 starts in their front attacking 3. Arsenal had 7. That would be 6 if you don't include Nketia who started more out of necessity from injuries.
Grealish started 8 Champions League games but only 10 EPL games. Arsenal doesn't have a rotated top 3 player like that.
Arsenal also doesn't have a sheikh for an owner and 115 sanctions against them. City's championships are tainted in my mind. They have broken the rules to obtain depth at almost every position that could easily be starting for numerous teams in this league.texagbeliever said:
Grealish started 8 Champions League games but only 10 EPL games. Arsenal doesn't have a rotated top 3 player like that.
Vieira has never truly earned playing time in my opinion, although he did start to really show some promise last fall before he ended up having groin surgery and missing several months.
ESR is the one I really don't get. He was the 1st sub/starter in 2021/22. Missed a lot of last year because of injury. This year just hasn't been given opportunities, but imo when he has come on, he has looked good. There haven't been any games were he really struggled. He started 3 matches and did well. He was really unlucky not to have several goals this year due to goal line clearances and good saves.
ESR is the one I really don't get. He was the 1st sub/starter in 2021/22. Missed a lot of last year because of injury. This year just hasn't been given opportunities, but imo when he has come on, he has looked good. There haven't been any games were he really struggled. He started 3 matches and did well. He was really unlucky not to have several goals this year due to goal line clearances and good saves.
100% agree with this. I'd say he looks a bit lazy in defense at times but has generally looked good on offense and in possession. He has probably had atleast 5-6 goals either cleared off the line or deflected. One reason he may not be getting a legit shot..... he doesn't really create for others. He is much more of a goal scorer & dribbler vs a creative presence. I 100% think that he will be the one that fans will regret selling. I think he ends up on a mid table club and scores double digits.wangus12 said:
ESR is the one I really don't get. He was the 1st sub/starter in 2021/22. Missed a lot of last year because of injury. This year just hasn't been given opportunities, but imo when he has come on, he has looked good. There haven't been any games were he really struggled. He started 3 matches and did well. He was really unlucky not to have several goals this year due to goal line clearances and good saves.
Newcastle has sizable FFP issue to deal with. No one is going to pay this #; curious to see how their roster management shakes out.
I think they keep Isak. It's a **** off price. Bruno G is gonna be the big name they're more likely to move
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🚨Arsenal are set to vote AGAINST scrapping VAR on the 6th June.
— now.arsenal (@now_arsenaI) May 27, 2024
Chelsea and Liverpool are also expected to do the same, as per @JacobsBen.
Thoughts?🤔 pic.twitter.com/8sCVU4GNb7
It doesn't need to be scrapped but the VAR referees need to spend all summer working on how to do it properly
Ditching PGMOL and bringing in a new org with less bias would solve a ton of issues.
Seeing more and more claims that Partey doesn't want to leave this summer unless an ideal offer comes in which means he isn't leaving. Shapes our MF signings for the summer. With him making 200k/wk there is no reason for him to not play if he is healthy and doing what Arteta asks. That means our need for a starting quality 6/8 could get pushed in favor of youth with upside. Could argue that it makes it easier to move or loan Vieira as well.
🚨 Arsenal manager Mikel Arteta is heading into formal contract talks on course to become one of the best paid bosses in the Premier League. Story: https://t.co/POwNO4maW7
— Sami Mokbel (@SamiMokbel81_DM) May 29, 2024