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kammrath
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I've heard he was gone this year but thought it was more like summer.




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Really. I cannot tell if that affects what I have been saying but I find it eerie that he was forced out after that interview. I heard he was gone in June or so. I think his comments about parents were dumb even if truthful.
VERY much agree.
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I've heard he was gone this year but thought it was more like summer.




That's all for 2016. Watch some UCLA offense tape btw.
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Is he the only one, or will others follow?
claym711
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Jesus. Mazzone. Nooooooo
kammrath
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I've heard he was gone this year but thought it was more like summer.




That's all for 2016. Watch some UCLA offense tape btw.
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Is he the only one, or will others follow?

Mazzone???

Jugstore Cowboy
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You're crazy if you don't think recruits and parents read these boards. Some parents have posted here before. High school students are waaaay more social media savvy than most posters here.

You're also crazy if you don't think gossip from this board has made it into mainstream reporting.
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I remember that copy place. You're right. It was pretty bad. Redmond Terrace barber shop was a few businesses down. Got my first haircut there. The good ole' days!
Redmond Terrace used to be Gibson's Shopping Center I believe.
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Thought you said had nothing to do with OC?
kammrath
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Thought you said had nothing to do with OC?
He said the OC search has been significantly narrowed down as well. The announcement is not about that though.
welborn
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What do you expect? Kiffin? You have one year! This thing is bigger than you guys are thinking. It's a matter of 10-15mm and then 3.5 or so for the next guy. Let alone Chavis salary and the rest. It's tread water mode and that's the reality. There are bills to pay on all ends of the spectrum plus a new salary that has to be accounted for. Get your math cap on and get real.
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You're crazy if you don't think recruits and parents read these boards. Some parents have posted here before. High school students are waaaay more social media savvy than most posters here.

You're also crazy if you don't think gossip from this board has made it into mainstream reporting.
I was just going to say the same thing about the reporting... our board is where some of these "Mazzone to A&M possibilities" come from on CBS 247 Sports and others. I already commented on the recruits.. I stay on top of all the recruits, through Twitter. I watch as they start following other accounts to get an idea of where I think their head's are. If it looks like they are starting to question... I give them the "fan's support" of their coming to our program.
kammrath
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Thought you said had nothing to do with OC?
He said the OC search has been significantly narrowed down as well. The announcement is not about that though.
Is it possible that Sumlin and the OC search is moving forward while efforts to fire Sumlin are also moving forward at the very same time??
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Thought you said had nothing to do with OC?
He said the OC search has been significantly narrowed down as well. The announcement is not about that though.
So is this really "big changes"? Not sure if I would even notice if Hyman is gone and from what I have seen and read, Mazzone is a pretty average hire. Is Mazzone good enough to take the talent we have and string it all together? What about position coaches? Any changes?
welborn
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Thought you said had nothing to do with OC?


One step first. Then the second. Don't make this difficult.
kammrath
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What do you expect? Kiffin? You have one year! This thing is bigger than you guys are thinking. It's a matter of 10-15mm and then 3.5 or so for the next guy. Let alone Chavis salary and the rest. It's tread water mode and that's the reality. There are bills to pay on all ends of the spectrum plus a new salary that has to be accounted for. Get your math cap on and get real.
Liucci said on the radio this morning that the buyout size would not keep the higher ups from acting if they thought it was the right thing to do...
kammrath
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Thought you said had nothing to do with OC?
He said the OC search has been significantly narrowed down as well. The announcement is not about that though.
So is this really "big changes"? Not sure if I would even notice if Hyman is gone and from what I have seen and read, Mazzone is a pretty average hire. Is Mazzone good enough to take the talent we have and string it all together? What about position coaches? Any changes?
Great point. To me Hyman being gone is only big if it is an obstacle in the way of Sumlin being gone or Sumlin being fully supported.
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You're crazy if you don't think recruits and parents read these boards. Some parents have posted here before. High school students are waaaay more social media savvy than most posters here.

You're also crazy if you don't think gossip from this board has made it into mainstream reporting.
I was just going to say the same thing about the reporting... our board is where some of these "Mazzone to A&M possibilities" come from on CBS 247 Sports and others. I already commented on the recruits.. I stay on top of all the recruits, through Twitter. I watch as they start following other accounts to get an idea of where I think their head's are. If it looks like they are starting to question... I give them the "fan's support" of their coming to our program.


This is honestly ****ing creepy as **** and I hope you don't tweet at recruits. If you do, please for the love of god stop.
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Thought you said had nothing to do with OC?
He said the OC search has been significantly narrowed down as well. The announcement is not about that though.
So is this really "big changes"? Not sure if I would even notice if Hyman is gone and from what I have seen and read, Mazzone is a pretty average hire. Is Mazzone good enough to take the talent we have and string it all together? What about position coaches? Any changes?


Considering all the publicity lately, someone being let go here is "big news" because it's perceived as negative. As for the OC hire to one later, the national media won't bat an eyelash.
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Thought you said had nothing to do with OC?


One step first. Then the second. Don't make this difficult.


Not being difficult, just quoting your post. Appreciative for any and all nuggets and insight.
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You're crazy if you don't think recruits and parents read these boards. Some parents have posted here before. High school students are waaaay more social media savvy than most posters here.

You're also crazy if you don't think gossip from this board has made it into mainstream reporting.
I was just going to say the same thing about the reporting... our board is where some of these "Mazzone to A&M possibilities" come from on CBS 247 Sports and others. I already commented on the recruits.. I stay on top of all the recruits, through Twitter. I watch as they start following other accounts to get an idea of where I think their head's are. If it looks like they are starting to question... I give them the "fan's support" of their coming to our program.


This is honestly ****ing creepy as **** and I hope you don't tweet at recruits. If you do, please for the love of god stop.
First, it is not creepy for fans to show support of recruits coming to A&M. My family supports all recruits and their families efforts to come to A&M, to play and get an education.

I guarantee you the recruiting director and his assistants aren't doing this, and with social media the way it is, they should be
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I've heard he was gone this year but thought it was more like summer.
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Really. I cannot tell if that affects what I have been saying but I find it eerie that he was forced out after that interview. I heard he was gone in June or so. I think his comments about parents were dumb even if truthful.
VERY much agree.
I don't think the timing was accelerated much if at all because of the interview. If anything, his interview was scheduled based on the timing of other events.
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Who fires or forces the AD out? Who has that stroke?
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Thought you said had nothing to do with OC?


One step first. Then the second. Don't make this difficult.


Not being difficult, just quoting your post. Appreciative for any and all nuggets and insight.


No harm no foul. I've not heard of any position coach changes. I'd assume that's a OC preference.
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Who fires or forces the AD out? Who has that stroke?


The Prez, Sharp, and the regents.

But I don't believe any rumor posted here until it's official.
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I've heard he was gone this year but thought it was more like summer.
This am.
Really. I cannot tell if that affects what I have been saying but I find it eerie that he was forced out after that interview. I heard he was gone in June or so. I think his comments about parents were dumb even if truthful.
VERY much agree.
I don't think the timing was accelerated much if at all because of the interview. If anything, his interview was scheduled based on the timing of other events.


What interview are yall talking about?
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How is the information that is posted on here detrimental or damaging to our program? This is a college football fan site, that is in large part read by our fans. No media outlets are running stories that originate on a TexAgs message board, or any other fan site message board for that matter. Additionally, while recruits may read the boards, do you honestly believe that they are basing the most important decision of their life on some random person's perception?

If you don't want to read what is being said or don't agree with it, just say so and move on or don't read it. Whether the info being posted is true or not, it's is interesting and some of it actually makes sense and explains some of the crap that we have witnessed over the past couple of seasons. Unfortunately, perception is reality.
Actually, I think it can be detrimental. These recruits, do in fact, look at Texags and especially the FREE board. I have been corresponding with one, through Twitter, and it really does get them asking questions. When there is so much speculation, like this topic has, they start to lose confidence in what they are hearing from the coaches. Just my opinion, from my experience.
Not sure if serious. If so, I didn't realize you were the ambassador to the university via Twitter for recruits. How does that conversation go btw and how much of a recruiting effect do you personally take credit for in your social circles?

I can't wait for the day that a recruit comes forward and says, I wanted to commit to A&M but I read a bunch of fans on TexAgs thought their coach was incompetent. Any truly negative crap being put into the kid's heads is from the opposing recruiter.
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So to be clear, you are saying hyman will be gone tomorrow and mazzone will be announced as the new OC. Both tomorrow??
kammrath
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I've heard he was gone this year but thought it was more like summer.
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Really. I cannot tell if that affects what I have been saying but I find it eerie that he was forced out after that interview. I heard he was gone in June or so. I think his comments about parents were dumb even if truthful.
VERY much agree.
I don't think the timing was accelerated much if at all because of the interview. If anything, his interview was scheduled based on the timing of other events.


What interview are yall talking about?
http://texags.com/forums/5/topics/2711082
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How is the information that is posted on here detrimental or damaging to our program? This is a college football fan site, that is in large part read by our fans. No media outlets are running stories that originate on a TexAgs message board, or any other fan site message board for that matter. Additionally, while recruits may read the boards, do you honestly believe that they are basing the most important decision of their life on some random person's perception?

If you don't want to read what is being said or don't agree with it, just say so and move on or don't read it. Whether the info being posted is true or not, it's is interesting and some of it actually makes sense and explains some of the crap that we have witnessed over the past couple of seasons. Unfortunately, perception is reality.
Actually, I think it can be detrimental. These recruits, do in fact, look at Texags and especially the FREE board. I have been corresponding with one, through Twitter, and it really does get them asking questions. When there is so much speculation, like this topic has, they start to lose confidence in what they are hearing from the coaches. Just my opinion, from my experience.
Not sure if serious. If so, I didn't realize you were the ambassador to the university via Twitter for recruits. How does that conversation go btw and how much of a recruiting effect do you personally take credit for in your social circles?

I can't wait for the day that a recruit comes forward and says, I wanted to commit to A&M but I read a bunch of fans on TexAgs thought their coach was incompetent. Any truly negative crap being put into the kid's heads is from the opposing recruiter.

No offense, but you are naive if you think fans, message boards, and social media have no effect on recruits' decisions.
kammrath
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So to be clear, you are saying hyman will be gone tomorrow and mazzone will be announced as the new OC. Both tomorrow??

What I am getting from him:

Hyman gone tomorrow.

OC search is getting close with Mazzone in the lead. Will be announced later when final.
KansasCity Ag
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I agree, don't tweet recruits. As a recent grad, that is the creepiest thing in the world and should be left to the tsip walmart fans. It's like a grown man wearing a football jersey of a young player. Creepy AF. You aren't picking up the slack of the recruiters by doing that, just leave them be. You can RT them, that's it.
kammrath
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Is it true that new AD hires often precipitate a new head coach hire?
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Hyman is an empty suit that is trotted out to give the message that he has been told to give.
welborn
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So to be clear, you are saying hyman will be gone tomorrow and mazzone will be announced as the new OC. Both tomorrow??


I'd say with some degree of certainty that the announcement of Hyman being done will be conducted tomorrow and that the hiring of Mazzone would be done in the near future. Most confident in the former for the record. Don't see why that one would stay under wraps longer than the nearly 15 hours since it was decided.
Jugstore Cowboy
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Is it true that new AD hires often precipitate a new head coach hire?


AD firings have been linked to two of our head coaching changes, but those were very different circumstances. Hyman didn't hire Sumlin.
bradleyk
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How is the information that is posted on here detrimental or damaging to our program? This is a college football fan site, that is in large part read by our fans. No media outlets are running stories that originate on a TexAgs message board, or any other fan site message board for that matter. Additionally, while recruits may read the boards, do you honestly believe that they are basing the most important decision of their life on some random person's perception?

If you don't want to read what is being said or don't agree with it, just say so and move on or don't read it. Whether the info being posted is true or not, it's is interesting and some of it actually makes sense and explains some of the crap that we have witnessed over the past couple of seasons. Unfortunately, perception is reality.
Actually, I think it can be detrimental. These recruits, do in fact, look at Texags and especially the FREE board. I have been corresponding with one, through Twitter, and it really does get them asking questions. When there is so much speculation, like this topic has, they start to lose confidence in what they are hearing from the coaches. Just my opinion, from my experience.
Not sure if serious. If so, I didn't realize you were the ambassador to the university via Twitter for recruits. How does that conversation go btw and how much of a recruiting effect do you personally take credit for in your social circles?

I can't wait for the day that a recruit comes forward and says, I wanted to commit to A&M but I read a bunch of fans on TexAgs thought their coach was incompetent. Any truly negative crap being put into the kid's heads is from the opposing recruiter.

I am not an "Ambassador" in official terms, and I don't take any credit. I support HS Athletics and College Athletics. I especially support our local schools and Texas A&M. I never said coach was incompetent, but you can bet your tail they watch this board, and they believe a lot of things, when much of it is ranting and complaining, with no factual basis. You would be naive to think other coaches, media, fans, etc, dont use this site against us at times. TexAgs is one of the 10 largest fan boards in the US.
 
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