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You really should be banned for posting this crap, whether true or not.
It is true and I haven't been banned. So make of that what you want.
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quote:$ Bill always had a replacement short list. I know Hyman isn't in this, but I'd bet at least a couple potential targets have already been talked to (via agents).
I'm here.
I just don't have anything really new.
We are still hoping some NFL team is dumb enough to take Sumlin. If not, we are prepared to offer a buyout amount (and we think he'd take it). If not, we would drop dirt to make the buyout go down.
I hope we have a replacement lined up. Don't know either way.
There are a ton of NFL openings, but I'm still not sure he lands one.
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The "knowing your streets in College Station" litmus test is not a good indicator imo.
Considering I quickly corrected myself but originally named a well known store in that area, with an event at that any hetero male in BCS during the time would remember, it was a stupid round of gotcha by the agtag texags koolaid kult. But I should not be surprised since apparently I was supposed to remember some article about glory holes. Remembering that over our girls of the big12 issue is ridiculous. I also put forth some info that only someone who was at A&M during that time and still kept up with it would know. We have enough people that could answer that on this board if they tried.
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This is worse than the week before signing day last year.
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$ Bill always had a replacement short list. I know Hyman isn't in this, but I'd bet at least a couple potential targets have already been talked to (via agents).
I think this is going to go as it always does. The BMAs willing to fork over the cash get to make the decision.
quote:Point taken. Perhaps that was a bit out of line. I think donors can have some input without trying to run the show. A lot of that could probably be taken care of by having an active AD that takes charge and actually leads. JMO.quote:Are you saying that if you were in the position to donate a large sum of money to A&M athletics that you would sit in your suite and STFU? Unfortunately, the world doesn't work that way. Large donors are successful people that are used to having input when they invest their hard earned money. All due respect to everyone venting their frustrations, but the BMA's are the solution here; not the problem. Things will sort themselves out. There are things going on behind the scenes as we type.
Yes, that is correct. However, not all of them are as "involved" in situations like this. Frankly, I think, that is a lot of the issue with Aggie football. Most if not all of these guys need to sit quietly in their suites and STFU. Unfortunately, we all know that won't happen.
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What could be worse? Please don't say probation
quote:doesn't involve NCAA infractions, Sumlin is the root of it.
What could be worse? Please don't say probation
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The "knowing your streets in College Station" litmus test is not a good indicator imo.
Considering I quickly corrected myself but originally named a well known store in that area, with an event at that any hetero male in BCS during the time would remember, it was a stupid round of gotcha by the agtag texags koolaid kult. But I should not be surprised since apparently I was supposed to remember some article about glory holes. Remembering that over our girls of the big12 issue is ridiculous. I also put forth some info that only someone who was at A&M during that time and still kept up with it would know. We have enough people that could answer that on this board if they tried.
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This is worse than the week before signing day last year.
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$ Bill always had a replacement short list. I know Hyman isn't in this, but I'd bet at least a couple potential targets have already been talked to (via agents).
I think this is going to go as it always does. The BMAs willing to fork over the cash get to make the decision.
Could you guys drop the 'name this street' soap-opera. LDW, I understand you being ticked off last night but I think the issue has already been beaten to death with a bullet in the head coup-de-gras.
We want to read about another episode of As the World Turns at Bright Complex.
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What could be worse? Please don't say probation
No, not that I know of. Recruiting is going to tank whether Sumlin is here or not, and the situation has the potential to get real ugly.
Why do you think the NFL news leaked Sun. and then Spav was finally fired that afternoon (despite supposedly being fired over month ago)?
The main catalyst for this movement was a group of administrators/BMAs realizing Sumlin had been almost desperately pursuing (more so than his usual annual NFL footsie through his agent) NFL jobs through much of the season and especially during the QB debacle.
That NFL leak wasn't some sip rumor.
They want him gone, and frankly from what I know I think they are justified.
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doesn't involve NCAA infractions, Sumlin is the root of it.
Think of it. If Spav has been gone since Nov. why no real movement on the OC. Sure we got the Mazzone leak but that quickly stalled out. If Sumlin was completely safe, you have your OC. You need to generate positive buzz and get ready for the dead period to end. There is no reason to not announce an OC now, unless you either don't have one or cannot have one.
When I hear that they have "dirt" on Sumlin, the thing that comes to my mind is substance abuse. That could get messy fast.
Thanks, we will see what happens I suppose
Well, Rusty is going on Texags radio and saying problems are above Spavital. If you check other sites like the Rant, most do not believe Sumlin has a chance of surviving this. However, we are Aggies and I expect Sumlin to be here one more year, screw it up ROYALLY and be fired next Fall. So bring on the lame duck OC!
quote:Here is the thing. In the case of substance abuse, like say alcoholism, it is rarely a big surprise to those around the program. We don't really know until we are supposed to know. Sarkasian was a good example of that. He just didn't start drinking in August. He has been an alcoholic and it got worse, to the point of USC letting him go.
When I hear that they have "dirt" on Sumlin, the thing that comes to my mind is substance abuse. That could get messy fast.
But look at Pinkel at Mizzou. He got a DUI. He was in trouble but there was no real ill will against him. So he survived until this year, when he retired due to health reasons.
The other thing is if you have the means to use, say alcoholism, to get rid of a coach, you do not sit on it too long. Doing say makes it harder to use to can him.
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Well, Rusty is going on Texags radio and saying problems are above Spavital.
Was he on today? **** I missed it. I wanted to see how they handled his tweet, if they did at all.
quote:It all stems from that ridicules cell phone video that surfaced a couple weeks (months?) ago. Rather than dismissing it as the baseless tripe it is, there is a faction trying to turn it into a smoking gun of sorts. Complete horse sh*t if you ask me. No certainty of who took it, no certainty of who it was, no certainty of when it was taken. Just complete garbage.
When I hear that they have "dirt" on Sumlin, the thing that comes to my mind is substance abuse. That could get messy fast.
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Was he on today? **** I missed it. I wanted to see how they handled his tweet, if they did at all.
Yes. In my opinion, he did a A LOT of backtracking. I thought it was rather comical. JMOT
quote:Ummm, no.quote:It all stems from that ridicules cell phone video that surfaced a couple weeks (months?) ago.
When I hear that they have "dirt" on Sumlin, the thing that comes to my mind is substance abuse. That could get messy fast.
This is what I dont get: If the BMA's have dirt on Sumlin and they want him gone, why dont they leak it and use it? Why are they sitting back hoping that the NFL picks him up?
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Was he on today? **** I missed it. I wanted to see how they handled his tweet, if they did at all.
Yes. In my opinion, he did a A LOT of backtracking. I thought it was rather comical. JMOT
Yep. And he gave the indication that Sumlin is here in 2016 with a new OC
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This is what I dont get: If the BMA's have dirt on Sumlin and they want him gone, why dont they leak it and use it? Why are they sitting back hoping that the NFL picks him up?
Character assassination doesn't bode well when you begin the search for a new coach. They may have to leak it and use it. But it's best if both sides can agree on something. Be it him sticking around or him leaving.
quote:That was part of the comical part. He tweets that Spavital isn't the problem then gets on the radio and said getting rid of Spav was the right thing do.quote:
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Was he on today? **** I missed it. I wanted to see how they handled his tweet, if they did at all.
Yes. In my opinion, he did a A LOT of backtracking. I thought it was rather comical. JMOT
Yep. And he gave the indication that Sumlin is here in 2016 with a new OC
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Was he on today? **** I missed it. I wanted to see how they handled his tweet, if they did at all.
Yes. In my opinion, he did a A LOT of backtracking. I thought it was rather comical. JMOT
Agree completely. It was laughable and sort of sad. It was also pretty bizarre.
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What could be worse? Please don't say probation
No, not that I know of. Recruiting is going to tank whether Sumlin is here or not, and the situation has the potential to get real ugly.
Why do you think the NFL news leaked Sun. and then Spav was finally fired that afternoon (despite supposedly being fired over month ago)?
The main catalyst for this movement was a group of administrators/BMAs realizing Sumlin had been almost desperately pursuing (more so than his usual annual NFL footsie through his agent) NFL jobs through much of the season and especially during the QB debacle.
That NFL leak wasn't some sip rumor.
They want him gone, and frankly from what I know I think they are justified.
quote:Yep.
doesn't involve NCAA infractions, Sumlin is the root of it.
Think of it. If Spav has been gone since Nov. why no real movement on the OC. Sure we got the Mazzone leak but that quickly stalled out. If Sumlin was completely safe, you have your OC. You need to generate positive buzz and get ready for the dead period to end. There is no reason to not announce an OC now, unless you either don't have one or cannot have one.
I'll give it to you Leap. You aren't backing down. Soon you'll either be a prophet or you'll have to get a new account
quote:Right on cue to drive the "there is cause to get rid of Sumlin" agenda.quote:Ummm, no.quote:It all stems from that ridicules cell phone video that surfaced a couple weeks (months?) ago.
When I hear that they have "dirt" on Sumlin, the thing that comes to my mind is substance abuse. That could get messy fast.
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Was he on today? **** I missed it. I wanted to see how they handled his tweet, if they did at all.
Yes. In my opinion, he did a A LOT of backtracking. I thought it was rather comical. JMOT
Yep. And he gave the indication that Sumlin is here in 2016 with a new OC
Why do you ask your source if sumlin is going to be here in 2016, but you do not ask him when they will announce the OC?
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Was he on today? **** I missed it. I wanted to see how they handled his tweet, if they did at all.
Yes. In my opinion, he did a A LOT of backtracking. I thought it was rather comical. JMOT
Yep. And he gave the indication that Sumlin is here in 2016 with a new OC
Why do you ask your source if sumlin is going to be here in 2016, but you do not ask him when they will announce the OC?
Because Bayside isn't an offensive source guy. He plays defense.
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This is what I dont get: If the BMA's have dirt on Sumlin and they want him gone, why dont they leak it and use it? Why are they sitting back hoping that the NFL picks him up?
Because they want to "see if he leaves on his own" and then only then will they go nuclear "and release the dirt". Which would be a long legal battle. Oh, and this would be right before signing day. With no coach lined up (per Leap Day) and good luck finding one jumping on board that late into bed with a school that is trying to coerce a coach out of his contract buyout. All seems legit.
quote:This. No one wants this to be messy. And apparently Sumlin wants some closure, on it and that is why they think they have a buyout amount agreed to.quote:
This is what I dont get: If the BMA's have dirt on Sumlin and they want him gone, why dont they leak it and use it? Why are they sitting back hoping that the NFL picks him up?
Character assassination doesn't bode well when you begin the search for a new coach. They may have to leak it and use it. But it's best if both sides can agree on something. Be it him sticking around or him leaving.
The dirt will is only to be used if the current plan cannot be executed. Though if Sumlin is on board, I don't see it not being done.
quote:Where have I stated that I know they have no coach lined up? I have repeatedly said I don't really know but keep misquoting me and being a d-bag about it. I don't do the same to you.
With no coach lined up (per Leap Day) and
quote:The long legal battle doesn't keep them from firing him with cause.
Because they want to "see if he leaves on his own" and then only then will they go nuclear "and release the dirt". Which would be a long legal battle.
Again, bayside if spav has been gone since Nov. Why no real info on the OC? Why drag it out? If it is Mazzone there is no reason to suggest it and then back off. If Spav has been gone for so long why isn't this a done deal?
I think you know the answer. Things are not right.
quote:Actually his bigger point (in my mind) was that he isn't an insider anymore and doesn't really know much.quote:
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Was he on today? **** I missed it. I wanted to see how they handled his tweet, if they did at all.
Yes. In my opinion, he did a A LOT of backtracking. I thought it was rather comical. JMOT
Yep. And he gave the indication that Sumlin is here in 2016 with a new OC
quote:Because regardless of the situation, people should be allowed to remove themselves from a situation before having to deal with "dirt" in the public eye. The guy is still a human being and deserves the chance to take care of his own personal issues.
This is what I dont get: If the BMA's have dirt on Sumlin and they want him gone, why dont they leak it and use it? Why are they sitting back hoping that the NFL picks him up?
quote:on TexAgs radio they're not going to cut it all loose... plus Rusty certainly won't and no one wants to be the one that leaks it all over the airwaves. If it comes out though I'm sure they'll talk about it plenty. Hopefully negotiations with KS work out and we all move on with minimal damage.
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Was he on today? **** I missed it. I wanted to see how they handled his tweet, if they did at all.
Yes. In my opinion, he did a A LOT of backtracking. I thought it was rather comical. JMOT
*Note: I'm not criticizing them. You just can't talk about this stuff until its done.
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Was he on today? **** I missed it. I wanted to see how they handled his tweet, if they did at all.
Yes. In my opinion, he did a A LOT of backtracking. I thought it was rather comical. JMOT
Agree completely. It was laughable and sort of sad. It was also pretty bizarre.
Did you or did you not say that you suspected they don't have a plan after Sumlin is fired?
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Did you or did you not say that you suspected they don't have a plan after Sumlin is fired?
Is saying I suspect the same as saying I know? Because I don't know where you learned to read but suspect and know are not the synonyms.
And answer my question about the OC. You know there are no good answers right now.
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Did you or did you not say that you suspected they don't have a plan after Sumlin is fired?
He said that he suspected that they don't. Meaning he's making an educated guess. I don't think he ever said that he was told that they don't have a replacement. I would think his suspecting of no replacement stems from how late in the game this is occurring.
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