My last f1 was 18 days, but it had been disapproved twice prior. So that doesn't really count does it?
Current ATF wait time?
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So has anybody ever talked to a live person at ATF when they called the status update phone #? Or does it always roll to a voicemail box?
txags92 said:
So has anybody ever talked to a live person at ATF when they called the status update phone #? Or does it always roll to a voicemail box?
The regular NFA phone number?
304-616-4500?
They answer every time I've called. Hell I bet I've talked to the same Scott dude 5+ times about my R9 stamp
I have called that # 3 times this week and never gotten a human answering.tandy miller said:txags92 said:
So has anybody ever talked to a live person at ATF when they called the status update phone #? Or does it always roll to a voicemail box?
The regular NFA phone number?
304-616-4500?
They answer every time I've called. Hell I bet I've talked to the same Scott dude 5+ times about my R9 stamp
Try earlier in the morning
Usually I call before 8
I have never gotten the automated machine, unless it was after hours or on Wednesdays when I believe they don't take calls.
Well ***** Just finally got through to them, and ATF had approved it over a year ago and the stamp never made it to the seller. Now I have to wait up to another 45 days while they request a replacement stamp.
txags92 said:
Well ***** Just finally got through to them, and ATF had approved it over a year ago and the stamp never made it to the seller. Now I have to wait up to another 45 days while they request a replacement stamp.
Wow
Wow
Wow
Yeah, I wish I had called a long time ago. The crappy part is that I have no idea who is really at fault. Did ATF screw up and not send it out after the approval? Did the USPS not deliver the stamp to the seller? Di the seller receive it and screw up by not updating their records? At this point I am kind of mad at all of them, but also mad at myself for waiting until I was well outside of the "range" of approval dates before calling to check the status. Instead, I just sat there waiting while every month I got an update email saying "ATF is still reviewing your application".BenderRodriguez said:txags92 said:
Well ***** Just finally got through to them, and ATF had approved it over a year ago and the stamp never made it to the seller. Now I have to wait up to another 45 days while they request a replacement stamp.
Wow
Wow
Wow
txags92 said:
Well ***** Just finally got through to them, and ATF had approved it over a year ago and the stamp never made it to the seller. Now I have to wait up to another 45 days while they request a replacement stamp.
Yeah, bull**** What leftist did you piss off? Insult some trans-whatever on social media or something?
**** Joe Biden
Love Gun said:txags92 said:
Well ***** Just finally got through to them, and ATF had approved it over a year ago and the stamp never made it to the seller. Now I have to wait up to another 45 days while they request a replacement stamp.
Yeah, bull**** What leftist did you piss off? Insult some trans-whatever on social media or something?
As long as it was taking, I had assumed I was on somebody's list. But no, just good old fashioned government inefficiency/incompetence seems most likely. Will see how long my twofer efiles take now.
At 270 days. No answer. This thread has been awfully quite. Any July 2022 people get their can yet?
I saw the atf dates on Capitol Armorys website just jumped into July 2022, I'm a end of June 2022 submittal and no word yet. I've tried the ATF number a few replies above a couple times this morning, and it rings once then just stays quiet.
What is this "range of approval dates" you speak of?txags92 said:Yeah, I wish I had called a long time ago. The crappy part is that I have no idea who is really at fault. Did ATF screw up and not send it out after the approval? Did the USPS not deliver the stamp to the seller? Di the seller receive it and screw up by not updating their records? At this point I am kind of mad at all of them, but also mad at myself for waiting until I was well outside of the "range" of approval dates before calling to check the status. Instead, I just sat there waiting while every month I got an update email saying "ATF is still reviewing your application".BenderRodriguez said:txags92 said:
Well ***** Just finally got through to them, and ATF had approved it over a year ago and the stamp never made it to the seller. Now I have to wait up to another 45 days while they request a replacement stamp.
Wow
Wow
Wow
I'm at 220 days. I called a few weeks ago and was told it is "pending". It hadn't even been assigned to examiner IIRC.
What's most frustrating is I had to do an FBI background check for a project at work a few years ago and it took like 2-weeks. A month later I got a TWIC card and my TSA Pre-Check done on a Friday at 2PM. I was told approval for the TWIC would be a month or so and the Pre-Check a couple of weeks.
I both the TWIC card and Pre-Check approval emails in my in-box the next day on Saturday morning!
HTF is this taking so long?
On the Silencer Central website, they have a page that gives a range of dates they have pending and are seeing approvals from. Can't link it from my work computer because firearms stuff is blocked.agracer said:What is this "range of approval dates" you speak of?txags92 said:Yeah, I wish I had called a long time ago. The crappy part is that I have no idea who is really at fault. Did ATF screw up and not send it out after the approval? Did the USPS not deliver the stamp to the seller? Di the seller receive it and screw up by not updating their records? At this point I am kind of mad at all of them, but also mad at myself for waiting until I was well outside of the "range" of approval dates before calling to check the status. Instead, I just sat there waiting while every month I got an update email saying "ATF is still reviewing your application".BenderRodriguez said:txags92 said:
Well ***** Just finally got through to them, and ATF had approved it over a year ago and the stamp never made it to the seller. Now I have to wait up to another 45 days while they request a replacement stamp.
Wow
Wow
Wow
I'm at 220 days. I called a few weeks ago and was told it is "pending". It hadn't even been assigned to examiner IIRC.
What's most frustrating is I had to do an FBI background check for a project at work a few years ago and it took like 2-weeks. A month later I got a TWIC card and my TSA Pre-Check done on a Friday at 2PM. I was told approval for the TWIC would be a month or so and the Pre-Check a couple of weeks.
I both the TWIC card and Pre-Check approval emails in my in-box the next day on Saturday morning!
HTF is this taking so long?
As for HTF it is taking so long, ATF really doesn't want to give these approvals. So they take as long as they possibly can to do them because there is no legislative requirement that they do them faster. Also, their pistol brace ruling and free stamp policy for those has caused a flood of new applications to come in, slowing down all the EFile stuff that was moving relatively (for ATF) quickly prior to that.
This is what I use to gauge approval range.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/12ah3nw/april_2023_approval_megathread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/12ah3nw/april_2023_approval_megathread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
Seems like approval times are all over the place… most recent 5 on the Reddit mega thread (pending date):
8/7
6/23
7/19
7/25
6/7
8/7
6/23
7/19
7/25
6/7
agracer said:What is this "range of approval dates" you speak of?txags92 said:Yeah, I wish I had called a long time ago. The crappy part is that I have no idea who is really at fault. Did ATF screw up and not send it out after the approval? Did the USPS not deliver the stamp to the seller? Di the seller receive it and screw up by not updating their records? At this point I am kind of mad at all of them, but also mad at myself for waiting until I was well outside of the "range" of approval dates before calling to check the status. Instead, I just sat there waiting while every month I got an update email saying "ATF is still reviewing your application".BenderRodriguez said:txags92 said:
Well ***** Just finally got through to them, and ATF had approved it over a year ago and the stamp never made it to the seller. Now I have to wait up to another 45 days while they request a replacement stamp.
Wow
Wow
Wow
I'm at 220 days. I called a few weeks ago and was told it is "pending". It hadn't even been assigned to examiner IIRC.
What's most frustrating is I had to do an FBI background check for a project at work a few years ago and it took like 2-weeks. A month later I got a TWIC card and my TSA Pre-Check done on a Friday at 2PM. I was told approval for the TWIC would be a month or so and the Pre-Check a couple of weeks.
I both the TWIC card and Pre-Check approval emails in my in-box the next day on Saturday morning!
HTF is this taking so long?
It's engineered that way.
They moved all the suckers who applied for the 'free' short barrels to the head of the queue too.
Help me, because I still haven't done anything... why are the "free" SBRs suckers? Is there something more malicious than the worst case that they go back on the free part and require you to pay $200?FTAG 2000 said:agracer said:What is this "range of approval dates" you speak of?txags92 said:Yeah, I wish I had called a long time ago. The crappy part is that I have no idea who is really at fault. Did ATF screw up and not send it out after the approval? Did the USPS not deliver the stamp to the seller? Di the seller receive it and screw up by not updating their records? At this point I am kind of mad at all of them, but also mad at myself for waiting until I was well outside of the "range" of approval dates before calling to check the status. Instead, I just sat there waiting while every month I got an update email saying "ATF is still reviewing your application".BenderRodriguez said:txags92 said:
Well ***** Just finally got through to them, and ATF had approved it over a year ago and the stamp never made it to the seller. Now I have to wait up to another 45 days while they request a replacement stamp.
Wow
Wow
Wow
I'm at 220 days. I called a few weeks ago and was told it is "pending". It hadn't even been assigned to examiner IIRC.
What's most frustrating is I had to do an FBI background check for a project at work a few years ago and it took like 2-weeks. A month later I got a TWIC card and my TSA Pre-Check done on a Friday at 2PM. I was told approval for the TWIC would be a month or so and the Pre-Check a couple of weeks.
I both the TWIC card and Pre-Check approval emails in my in-box the next day on Saturday morning!
HTF is this taking so long?
It's engineered that way.
They moved all the suckers who applied for the 'free' short barrels to the head of the queue too.
Had a June 29, 2022 come in last week.RikkiTikkaTagem said:
At 270 days. No answer. This thread has been awfully quite. Any July 2022 people get their can yet?
If your Form 1 is denied for any reason (typo, etc.), you have provided the ATF with evidence that you are in possession of an illegal SBR. 10 years in prison is now on the table.Quote:
Help me, because I still haven't done anything... why are the "free" SBRs suckers? Is there something more malicious than the worst case that they go back on the free part and require you to pay $200?
People have Form 1's denied all the time for silly mistakes. Normally, you can just correct and resubmit because you haven't built anything yet.
tandy miller said:
This is what I use to gauge approval range.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFA/comments/12ah3nw/april_2023_approval_megathread/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
This is what I use as well. I don't look that much, only when I'm about 8 months out…so I'll check again in July for my 8.6 SBR and can. Just bought an SBS and another .22 can so those just started the sentence. May add a few more while I'm at it. Because **** the atf.
AggieT said:If your Form 1 is denied for any reason (typo, etc.), you have provided the ATF with evidence that you are in possession of an illegal SBR. 10 years in prison is now on the table.Quote:
Help me, because I still haven't done anything... why are the "free" SBRs suckers? Is there something more malicious than the worst case that they go back on the free part and require you to pay $200?
People have Form 1's denied all the time for silly mistakes. Normally, you can just correct and resubmit because you haven't built anything yet.
Or, take the brace off, submit f1, once f1 comes back put brace/stock back on.
If the form gets denied you're just in possession of a pistol
tandy miller said:AggieT said:If your Form 1 is denied for any reason (typo, etc.), you have provided the ATF with evidence that you are in possession of an illegal SBR. 10 years in prison is now on the table.Quote:
Help me, because I still haven't done anything... why are the "free" SBRs suckers? Is there something more malicious than the worst case that they go back on the free part and require you to pay $200?
People have Form 1's denied all the time for silly mistakes. Normally, you can just correct and resubmit because you haven't built anything yet.
Or, take the brace off, submit f1, once f1 comes back put brace/stock back on.
If the form gets denied you're just in possession of a pistol
This was my thought. I sold my brace. Right now it's just a pistol with a buffer tube.
I received 3 of mine today that i ordered in June. Two of the Banish 30 and a Banish 45
we all hate you...Aggie Hunter said:
I received 3 of mine today that i ordered in June. Two of the Banish 30 and a Banish 45
JK......sort of
agracer said:we all hate you...Aggie Hunter said:
I received 3 of mine today that i ordered in June. Two of the Banish 30 and a Banish 45
JK......sort of
Not really joking…
Banish 45
I submitted mine on May 5, 2022. Still no word
So the greatest civilization is one where all citizens are equally armed and can only be persuaded, never forced. It removes force from the equation... and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
ghollow said:
I submitted mine on May 5, 2022. Still no word
You need to call either ATF or your dealer. I submitted may 6th and was approved 2/1. A lot of people early Feb didn't get emails bc of an issue w the atf's system.
If I was you I would call your dealer and have them log into their eforms account and see if your approved form is there.
Or call the atf's NFA number and ask them
I'd be willing to bet that's approved and has been for 45+ days
Over a month after the first approval and I'm still waiting on the second SBR, both submitted same day. Should I be calling at this point to see if there is some issue?HUEY04 said:
eForm 1 approved for SBR yesterday
Submitted on 01/17/23
Mailed fingerprint card 01/20/23
Approved on 3/07/23
Still waiting on a second SBR submitted at the same time.
Yes. After my recent situation, I am going to be calling early and often from here on out. Assume somebody in the chain f-ed up and you will probably be right more often than not.HUEY04 said:Over a month after the first approval and I'm still waiting on the second SBR, both submitted same day. Should I be calling at this point to see if there is some issue?HUEY04 said:
eForm 1 approved for SBR yesterday
Submitted on 01/17/23
Mailed fingerprint card 01/20/23
Approved on 3/07/23
Still waiting on a second SBR submitted at the same time.
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