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10:23a, 10/13/22
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E-file form 4
Submitted 3/4/22
Approved today: 10/13/2022
So just over 7 months.
Still waiting on my paper form 4 from December 2021 (mad at myself for not waiting on the e-file option so I could have picked up both not just my 22 can today)
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In reply to aggiec05 • 12:22p, 10/13/22
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That sucks they didn't do a batch approval and throw your paper form in there. Did you call or just see the approval email?

I hit 6 months today on efile. Filed two more Monday and have a paper form from March outstanding (don't ask why it was a March paper form, I'm pissed). I'm crossing my fingers for a batch approval when it's time.
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4:26p, 10/13/22
Talked to my lawyer friend in Ft. Worth about this the other day, given the recent SCOTUS decisions and their impact on various law/guns etc.

He told me that there is currently a law suit in Federal Court in Ft. Worth that is pending. (He does a lot of Fed Criminal Cases & hears a lot of Court House scuttle butt) However, he also said that so far, the ATF has already admitted that a Silencer is not a gun. His words.

No idea how this is going to play out. ATF is not going to want to lose that slush fund, but there are a lot of law suits going on around the country that are taking down regulations piecemeal. This may be one of them.

Don't know who the Plaintiff is but I'd like to donate to their legal fees.
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In reply to aggiec05 • 5:05p, 10/13/22
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7:55p, 10/13/22
Just at one year to get mine approved.
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In reply to BSD • 8:19p, 10/13/22
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I hoped for a batch approval, but guessing it went different paths since one was paper and one was e-file. Still crazy that the "90 days" took 7 months, yet they can't get my paper one done from 4 months before that.
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In reply to aggiec05 • 9:42p, 10/13/22
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aggiec05 said:
E-file form 4
Submitted 3/4/22
Approved today: 10/13/2022
So just over 7 months.
Still waiting on my paper form 4 from December 2021 (mad at myself for not waiting on the e-file option so I could have picked up both not just my 22 can today)

I am 5 days behind you submission wise.

I have 8 days until my night time run and gun event I was hoping to use these cans I bought at....218 days ago.

With my luck, they're going to clear Friday morning. I'm going to drive to Austin, pick them up, do a rough ass zero on my way back through town, drive 6 hours to Oklahoma and hope everything works okay as I function check them by shooting a dang competition with them.

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1:07p, 10/26/22
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eform4 submitted through Capitol Armory March 9th- approved October 22nd (227 days).
eform4 submitted through Capitol Armory March 9th- disapproved after 227 days.

The attached info for the form 4 did not match the information filled out on the form 4. I called Capitol Armory Monday morning and was told "our paperwork people will reach out today or tomorrow".

Wednesday afternoon I finally get an email. In summary, it basically said "Our system uploaded an incorrect file. I don't know why, but I told programmers about it. There is no system in place to allow changes to eform4s so now we have to resubmit, here's the paperwork".

So 231 days after I certified my eform 4, I get to start the clock all over again. And since the best answer Capitol Armory had for the error was "uh, I don't know".....guess we get to just cross our fingers and hope they dont screw this one up too.
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In reply to BenderRodriguez • 1:13p, 10/26/22
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Yeah, I'd do it through somewhere else
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In reply to tandy miller • 1:16p, 10/26/22
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tandy miller said:
Yeah, I'd do it through somewhere else

Yeah, these 4 cans in progress right now are the last time I bother using Capitol Armory if this is how they handle business.

I don't blame them for the outrageous wait times or the insanity that is not being able to correct electronic form4s (I've had to correct eform1s before and gotten quick approvals afterwards), but their "lol, we don't know why it happened, here's a little store credit, good luck, see you in another 230 days" response is pretty frustrating.

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In reply to BenderRodriguez • 2:25p, 10/26/22
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BenderRodriguez said:
tandy miller said:
Yeah, I'd do it through somewhere else

Yeah, these 4 cans in progress right now are the last time I bother using Capitol Armory if this is how they handle business.

I don't blame them for the outrageous wait times or the insanity that is not being able to correct electronic form4s (I've had to correct eform1s before and gotten quick approvals afterwards), but their "lol, we don't know why it happened, here's a little store credit, good luck, see you in another 230 days" response is pretty frustrating.

CA has been expanding rapidly and seem to be biting off WAY more than they can chew.
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In reply to O.G. • 2:26p, 10/26/22
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O.G. said:
Talked to my lawyer friend in Ft. Worth about this the other day, given the recent SCOTUS decisions and their impact on various law/guns etc.

He told me that there is currently a law suit in Federal Court in Ft. Worth that is pending. (He does a lot of Fed Criminal Cases & hears a lot of Court House scuttle butt) However, he also said that so far, the ATF has already admitted that a Silencer is not a gun. His words.

No idea how this is going to play out. ATF is not going to want to lose that slush fund, but there are a lot of law suits going on around the country that are taking down regulations piecemeal. This may be one of them.

Don't know who the Plaintiff is but I'd like to donate to their legal fees.
Maybe Darrel Brooks can help you, I hear he isn't going to be too busy from now on
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In reply to tk111 • 12:08p, 10/27/22
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Received mine today. E form was verified on March 11.
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12:43p, 10/27/22
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yall are giving me hope, March 25th here
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12:57p, 10/27/22
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Recertified my pistol can today for attempt number 2.

Original certification date: March 9th.
Disapproved October 22nd (227 days)
Certified new form 4 October 27th (232 days).

Back to the back of the line, apparently.
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In reply to BenderRodriguez • 1:36p, 10/27/22
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Damn. Here's to hoping paper examiners move to Efile once they get thru backlog… if not you may be looking at a yr+
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In reply to tandy miller • 3:15p, 10/27/22
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I'm really hoping there was a big surge at the rollout of eforms and that they're going to come out of that soon and get closer to the 90 day timeframe. I'm about a month in to the wait on a BOGO silencer that came from a purchase in November of 2021. I really am not looking forward to another six months.
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6:27a, 10/31/22
Interesting commentary on current Texas v. ATF lawsuit.



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9:21a, 10/31/22
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Cgs Hyperion approved this morning. Certified March 13, approved Oct 31. 232 days.

Still waiting on a Hyperion K certified on March 13 as well.
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In reply to BenderRodriguez • 9:24a, 10/31/22
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Congratulations. Every can that gets approved gets me one (1) ATF unit closer
FJB
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8:36a, 11/1/22
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Submitted 3/14/22, approved 11/1/22.
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10:48a, 11/1/22
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Submitted 3/15/22, still waiting.
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In reply to O.G. • 11:03a, 11/1/22
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O.G. said:
Interesting commentary on current Texas v. ATF lawsuit.



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10:01a, 11/2/22
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Hyperion K approved this morning. 234 days.

Submitted at same time as full size hyperion, took two extra days. Go figure.
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In reply to BenderRodriguez • 10:43a, 11/2/22
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So after seeing these same person approvals coming in days apart, my hopes for another batch approval have been destroyed.

Edit: but I'm glad you finally got yours!
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12:24p, 11/2/22
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I'm still waiting on paper filing, going on 11 months now...
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In reply to BSD • 6:59p, 11/2/22
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BSD said:
So after seeing these same person approvals coming in days apart, my hopes for another batch approval have been destroyed.

Edit: but I'm glad you finally got yours!


You got me curious so I looked: two certified march 9, two more march 14.

One approval and one disapproval oct 22 same examiner.

One approval oct 31 from different examiner.

Last approval today (nov 2) from same examiner as the first two i got back on oct 22.
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1:02p, 11/3/22
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Left to right: CGS Hyperion, CGS Hyperion K, Rugged Micro30
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In reply to BenderRodriguez • 1:04p, 11/3/22
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Now you're just showing off
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In reply to tandy miller • 1:07p, 11/3/22
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tandy miller said:
Now you're just showing off


No, the pictures i took on the guns is showing off. Ill put that in a different thread though.

Got your message, will respond later when im done putting every possible can+gun combo together
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3:01p, 11/3/22
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OSS Helix 5.56K Form 4 Trust
Check Cashed 11/30/21
Stamp approved 11/2/22
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Went pending on 3/12 and got it last Friday.
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Bregxit said:
Capt. Augustus McCrae said:
OSS Helix 5.56K Form 4 Trust
Check Cashed 11/30/21
Stamp approved 11/2/22


Paper I assume?

Yeah. That was right before the e file was announced, much to my chagrin.
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