******* Dallas Cowboys 2020 offseason thread *********

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jr15aggie
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9:14a, 4/23/20
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I'm gonna say you need to start learning about the other CBs in this draft not named Henderson or Okudah.

Some people think Diggs (Bama) is better than Henderson straight up. Kristian Fulton (LSU) is also high on lots of boards and not out of the questions for any team in the top 20.



I keep hearing over and over from mock drafts "this team lost Robert Quinn". Well, we also lost Byron Jones! Pretty sure we are gonna go CB at 17 and if not then maybe a safety that we know can come down and cover... McKinney most likely.
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In reply to PooDoo • 9:22a, 4/23/20
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After trading OBJ and his $95 million deal, you think they would think twice about a 2nd year QB's $25 or whatever is left?

They have a new HC, New OC, news reports all over about the unusual amount of research they are doing on Herbert for a team set at QB.

This is definitely coming from the Giants.

And who says they trade Jones? He's making less than backup QBs right now.

They've got JG as OC who has a direct line to Saban. Who would have a better idea of Tua's medical situation? Did Bama's surgeon do the operation?
you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of NFL contracts and QBs based on this and your Dak/Russell Wilson posts.

Daniel Jones would be a $21mm cap hit if he is traded or cut. Do you realy think they are going to draft a QB in round 1 and keep Jones?

OBJ was being an ass and demanding a trade, Jones has done nothing to disrupt the team. And the cap hit is about 7mm higher for Jones if he is traded than it was for OBJ. The two situations are not remotely comparable.


and what does Saban and Tua's surgery have to do with the Oregon QB?
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PooDoo
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In reply to BMX Bandit • 9:54a, 4/23/20
AG
Why are you correcting me about how contracts work when I mentioned $25 million left of Jones contract? I also said Jones doesn't have to be traded because his salary is what back ups are making.

I said from the beginning the Herbert/Giant reports look like a smoke screen.

The smoke screen is letting the Dolphins think the only QB you like is Herbert so they don't make a trade with the Lions.


Tua is who the Giants want and Herbert is the smoke screen.

And by the way, I've been a Cowboy fan since the 70's an Aggie since the 90's. I really don't appreciate you or the Kanye kid insulting my intelligence.
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BMX Bandit
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In reply to PooDoo • 10:09a, 4/23/20
I'm not insulting your intelligence. You may very well be the smartest person on this forum, but that doesn't change your misunderstanding of QBs and contracts. What does being a fan since the 70s have to do with anything? I've been a fan my whole life also.
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In reply to BMX Bandit • 10:46a, 4/23/20
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I had to take care of something before I finished my thought and I guess had a premature pocket post.

We have a lot of things in common. And just to tell you where I'm coming from as a fan. I'm not trolling, I'm sharing thoughts and speculation to have discussion. I'm not trying to be adversarial.
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10:53a, 4/23/20
Plenty of long time fans don't know shlt about football, contracts, scheme etc.
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jr15aggie
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11:30a, 4/23/20
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Sorry to interrupt but I'm gonna talk draft!


Thinking we are going to see some things very much stray from the mocks we've been seeing. This whole Corona deal has not only made it very difficult for these "experts" to get a feel for what each team is thinking... It's also nuts that none of these teams have really been able to dig into these players. Absolutely nothing happening past the draft other than virtual meetings.

Not being able to get a hands on medical eval on Tua is a prime example of how unequipped these teams must feel going into tonight. Gonna be wild I think.
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In reply to jr15aggie • 11:35a, 4/23/20
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That's why I mentioned JG's relationship with Saban.

Tua was the undisputed #1 pick before the injury. What team would be in better position to let Tua sit until he is 100% than the Giants with Jones' rookie contract?
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In reply to jr15aggie • 11:50a, 4/23/20
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jr15aggie said:
ESPN replaying the 2014 draft.... panthers just drafted Kelvin Benjamin with the 28th pick. Dude isn't even in the league anymore.

I mean, not even in the league is hella bad. It happens... hopefully not to us this year.
taco is barely still in the league
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In reply to PooDoo • 12:01p, 4/23/20
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PooDoo said:
Evidently, Jerry screwed up during the draft and the whole league could hear him talking to the Bengals during a scripted trade for the #1 pick.

is this legit and if so, where in the video was this mentioned? just asking because i don't want to listen to lynch talk for 30 minutes.

i'd draft burrow.
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In reply to TyHolden • 12:06p, 4/23/20
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No. It was like a wedding rehearsal mock draft... just going through the motions before the real deal.
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12:07p, 4/23/20
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I didn't watch the whole thing (can't stand Eisen either) but I don't think the story isn't about Jerry discussing the #1 pick for real...it's that when he tried to mock how conversations around trades will happen the whole league could hear him and not just the team he's trying to talk to. I have a feeling something ridiculous is going to happen tonight regarding olds trying to use technology.

I'd also take Burrow over Dak all day erry day.
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12:24p, 4/23/20
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i really like this mock. i haven't been paying attention this year but i'd take a draft that includes Mann and Duverney late.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2020/4/22/21229284/cowboys-draft-2020-our-latest-mock-draft-includes-a-trade-down-in-round-one
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12:24p, 4/23/20
AG
They start talking about the draft rehearsal at 2:30 and mention Jerry at 3:33.
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In reply to TyHolden • 12:47p, 4/23/20
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DSAg44 said:
i really like this mock. i haven't been paying attention this year but i'd take a draft that includes Mann and Duverney late.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2020/4/22/21229284/cowboys-draft-2020-our-latest-mock-draft-includes-a-trade-down-in-round-one
While I would be ecstatic with that haul, I'd venture that the majority of those players, if not all, would be gone before the pick they're projecting.
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1:00p, 4/23/20
I went back & re-watched all of the available Chaisson tape I could find on youtube & I am on board with him being the pick at 17. He's smart on & off the field and would give Tank a run for his money on being a leader. He is a high ceiling player & his floor is a lot higher than Taco. He can drop back in coverage, more than hold his own against the run, & is only scratching the surface as a pass rusher. For us he will probably play the SAM linebacker position on early downs & rush from the EDGE on 3rd down.
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In reply to investorAg83 • 1:16p, 4/23/20
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investorAg83 said:
DSAg44 said:
i really like this mock. i haven't been paying attention this year but i'd take a draft that includes Mann and Duverney late.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2020/4/22/21229284/cowboys-draft-2020-our-latest-mock-draft-includes-a-trade-down-in-round-one
While I would be ecstatic with that haul, I'd venture that the majority of those players, if not all, would be gone before the pick they're projecting.
IF NOT ALL - bookmarked. i honestly have no idea but this gives me something to do saturday.



K'Lavon Chaisson (23) 20
Damon Arnette (51) - 19 Holy ****
Lloyd Cushenberry III (82)
Devin Duvernay (87)
Rashard Lawrence (98)
Devin Asiasi (123)
Kenny Robinson Jr (164)
Shyheim Carter (179)
Braden Mann (231)
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1:22p, 4/23/20
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/04/23/jerry-jones-will-draft-at-home-alone-with-no-one-to-stop-him/

Throw everything you predict out the window!
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In reply to PooDoo • 1:40p, 4/23/20
AG
Haven't you realized by now that no one on this or the Texans forum can post anything about a contract without BMX opining and claiming to be an expert on the subject matter?
Disclaimer: Views expressed in this post reflect the opinions of Texags user bonfarr and are not to be accepted as facts or to be accepted at face value.
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In reply to TyHolden • 1:42p, 4/23/20
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DSAg44 said:
i really like this mock. i haven't been paying attention this year but i'd take a draft that includes Mann and Duverney late.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2020/4/22/21229284/cowboys-draft-2020-our-latest-mock-draft-includes-a-trade-down-in-round-one


This draft is too good to be true. If we ended up with this haul I would be ecstatic.
Disclaimer: Views expressed in this post reflect the opinions of Texags user bonfarr and are not to be accepted as facts or to be accepted at face value.
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In reply to TyHolden • 1:50p, 4/23/20
DSAg44 said:
i really like this mock. i haven't been paying attention this year but i'd take a draft that includes Mann and Duverney late.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2020/4/22/21229284/cowboys-draft-2020-our-latest-mock-draft-includes-a-trade-down-in-round-one


Love that draft
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In reply to bonfarr • 2:13p, 4/23/20
bonfarr said:
Haven't you realized by now that no one on this or the Texans forum can post anything about a contract without BMX opining and claiming to be an expert on the subject matter?


When did I claim to be an expert? I understand yeh basic concepts of how these contracts work. Didn't realize people get their panties in a twist when things are explained to them.

Let me guess, you call radio shows and make trade proposals, don't you?
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2:16p, 4/23/20
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Chaisson seems like a good kid with a cool story. He quit football to play basketball his sophomore year. Was talked into going to an LSU football camp with a buddy... Was offered a scholarship by Coach O at the camp.

https://www.nfl.com/videos?id=10103061-7033-0000-0110-5323691a242c
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2:26p, 4/23/20


Here's another good chaisson interview. He said Ed O came knocking at his house at 4 AM & followed him to the airport.
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2:37p, 4/23/20
Not sure if there's any truth to the smoke some cbs insiders are picking up but 2 of them just mocked Chinn to Dallas at 17. I'd be pissed with that pick at 17. If they're going to take Chinn, then they better trade back.
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2:51p, 4/23/20
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I'm OK with Chaisson only because as far as edge rushers go, it's him & young... after that it's a whole bunch of Taco Charltons.

My opinion is our secondary is the greatest need, but that shouldn't be the only factor for our 1st pick. So I have no issues with that pick, they just better be right about him. If we are gonna make a run we need to hit with our top 3 picks and find 1 or 2 more contributors in the other rounds.
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In reply to BMX Bandit • 3:30p, 4/23/20
AG
Any time someone posts an opinion about a player and a contract you ALWAYS respond and usually as a know-it-all contrarian. Every single time.

Disclaimer: Views expressed in this post reflect the opinions of Texags user bonfarr and are not to be accepted as facts or to be accepted at face value.
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3:47p, 4/23/20
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I would take that above draft scenario in a heart beat.

But like others have said, lotsa those players seem highly unlikely as available when the Cowboys picks come around in those rounds.
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In reply to bonfarr • 4:07p, 4/23/20
AG
bonfarr said:
Any time someone posts an opinion about a player and a contract you ALWAYS respond and usually as a know-it-all contrarian. Every single time.
he's a lawyer
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4:13p, 4/23/20
I think best realistic scenario, without any trades, is to take Chiasson at 17 and take best available DB at 51. I think there will be an immediate starter quality player there in Arnette, Winfield Jr, Chinn, Dugger or possibly Delpit.
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In reply to gigem1223 • 4:42p, 4/23/20
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gigem1223 said:
Not sure if there's any truth to the smoke some cbs insiders are picking up but 2 of them just mocked Chinn to Dallas at 17. I'd be pissed with that pick at 17. If they're going to take Chinn, then they better trade back.
Chinn's highlights look legit... I can see why the Cowboys like him. Sounds like a sharp kid and I can guarantee you after watching his interview Jerry is having visions of Darren Woodson.

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In reply to PooDoo • 4:44p, 4/23/20
Not saying I don't like Chinn but getting him at 17 would be horrible value. You can likely get him in the early 2nd or possibly at 51.
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5:44p, 4/23/20
According to Vegas Chinn is 50-50 to go in the 1st. I could see him getting drafted before McKinney
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6:04p, 4/23/20
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Pre draft on espn is live. Get hyped!
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7:21p, 4/23/20
So who do we think is going #1 here?
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