If they are not at a private business, they are government implemented. Impossible to tell which government, MUD, HOA, City, County, etc. But they were put there by some government.
malibucharles said:AozorAg said:
Destroy them all
If you are a law abiding citizen why would you be against these cameras? I am in favor of them if they reduce crime or aid in catching wanted criminals.
Tea Party said:fc2112 said:
So I'm a little confused.....
What would be the argument against a private company installing these at their own business? I noticed the local Lowes and Home depot have these - it seems obvious they should be able to have these for loss protection, if they desire.
The only benefit of Flock vs a different stand alone security monitoring system is that Flock is also used away from the store in public, which in theory makes it easier to track down a suspect.
But if the public keeps pushing back on public surveillance (which they should), then Flock becomes less beneficial to stores as I would assume it's more expensive than standalone security systems.
The store can do whatever they want, but the store only sees the bigger benefit of Flock if the general populace is indifferent to being surveiled in public. I haven't seen an argument against stores using Flock. Their business, their choice. It's the public surveillance that people are pushing back on outside of private businesses.
malibucharles said:AozorAg said:
Destroy them all
If you are a law abiding citizen why would you be against these cameras? I am in favor of them if they reduce crime or aid in catching wanted criminals.
schmellba99 said:Tea Party said:fc2112 said:
So I'm a little confused.....
What would be the argument against a private company installing these at their own business? I noticed the local Lowes and Home depot have these - it seems obvious they should be able to have these for loss protection, if they desire.
The only benefit of Flock vs a different stand alone security monitoring system is that Flock is also used away from the store in public, which in theory makes it easier to track down a suspect.
But if the public keeps pushing back on public surveillance (which they should), then Flock becomes less beneficial to stores as I would assume it's more expensive than standalone security systems.
The store can do whatever they want, but the store only sees the bigger benefit of Flock if the general populace is indifferent to being surveiled in public. I haven't seen an argument against stores using Flock. Their business, their choice. It's the public surveillance that people are pushing back on outside of private businesses.
Not only that, it's the manner in which they suddenly appear without any public notice or input and the fact that only government agencies (and Flock itself) has access to the cameras - the public is verboten from seeing what those that purportedly serve them can see.
Frankly, we have no idea where all these cameras have been installed or what they are surveilling at any given moment. Or who is accessing them or for what reason they are accessing them.
At least two influencers I've spoken to have been approached with offers of money in exchange for posting negatively about Flock cameras on X. https://t.co/LuEJt0Cm7l
— Tony Ortiz (Current Revolt) (@CurrentRevolt) July 21, 2026
sanangelo said:
You can get paid $$$ to bash Flock. Anyone get an offer?At least two influencers I've spoken to have been approached with offers of money in exchange for posting negatively about Flock cameras on X. https://t.co/LuEJt0Cm7l
— Tony Ortiz (Current Revolt) (@CurrentRevolt) July 21, 2026
sanangelo said:
You can get paid $$$ to bash Flock. Anyone get an offer?At least two influencers I've spoken to have been approached with offers of money in exchange for posting negatively about Flock cameras on X. https://t.co/LuEJt0Cm7l
— Tony Ortiz (Current Revolt) (@CurrentRevolt) July 21, 2026
rjhtamu said:
I'm late to this party obviously. I have no idea what "flock" cameras are. Just another form of private/public CCTV?
rjhtamu said:
Yet, I only have time to read and care about your response.
Slicer97 said:rjhtamu said:
Yet, I only have time to read and care about your response.
Basically this: Are you cool with your government spying on you for your own safety?
Tea Party said:Slicer97 said:rjhtamu said:
Yet, I only have time to read and care about your response.
Basically this: Are you cool with your government spying on you for your own safety?
This part is debatable.
rjhtamu said:
Am I cool with the government spying on me on a daily basis? No, but I am reserved to the fact that I own a cell phone so it is already happening.
Vepp said:malibucharles said:AozorAg said:
Destroy them all
If you are a law abiding citizen why would you be against these cameras? I am in favor of them if they reduce crime or aid in catching wanted criminals.
Because I like to exercise my liberties without being watched. I honestly can't believe other people can be this okay with a giving up liberties for perceived 'safety'. Hope your grandchildren like being constantly watched! How long until someone with opinions contrary to yours decides they don't like your speech?
Your opinion is about as unamerican as communism.
HaroldShipmanAg said:
People crying about camera's meanwhile they have dash cams, house decked in cameras, etc, etc...but Flock that's bad. LOL
cecil77 said:HaroldShipmanAg said:
People crying about camera's meanwhile they have dash cams, house decked in cameras, etc, etc...but Flock that's bad. LOL
Choice vs non choice. I can turn off any cameras I own and install, I can't turn off Flock.
Really silly point you attempted to articulate.
HaroldShipmanAg said:cecil77 said:HaroldShipmanAg said:
People crying about camera's meanwhile they have dash cams, house decked in cameras, etc, etc...but Flock that's bad. LOL
Choice vs non choice. I can turn off any cameras I own and install, I can't turn off Flock.
Really silly point you attempted to articulate.
Those cameras are filming the public like Flock does which is what you are crying about they also help solve crimes like Flock....Also, shows what hypocrites y'all are crying about these cameras.....What a dumb attempt at a gotcha.
Rapier108 said:
Always funny how both sides of the political spectrum are okay with destruction of property, as long as that destruction aligns with their beliefs.
Don't like the cameras, get local and state lawmakers to ban or heavily restrict them.
HaroldShipmanAg said:cecil77 said:HaroldShipmanAg said:
People crying about camera's meanwhile they have dash cams, house decked in cameras, etc, etc...but Flock that's bad. LOL
Choice vs non choice. I can turn off any cameras I own and install, I can't turn off Flock.
Really silly point you attempted to articulate.
Those cameras are filming the public like Flock does which is what you are crying about they also help solve crimes like Flock....Also, shows what hypocrites y'all are crying about these cameras.....What a dumb attempt at a gotcha.
HaroldShipmanAg said:
People crying about camera's meanwhile they have dash cams, house decked in cameras, etc, etc...but Flock that's bad. LOL
valvemonkey91 said:
We gave up any semblance of privacy a long time ago. If you're worried about Flock cameras, you should get rid of your cell phone, your credit card, your vehicle, your Alexa in your house, your dentist, your SSN, and banking at ATM's.
The outrage over flock cameras is too little too late.
HaroldShipmanAg said:
People crying about camera's meanwhile they have dash cams, house decked in cameras, etc, etc...but Flock that's bad. LOL
valvemonkey91 said:
We gave up any semblance of privacy a long time ago. If you're worried about Flock cameras, you should get rid of your cell phone, your credit card, your vehicle, your Alexa in your house, your dentist, your SSN, and banking at ATM's.
The outrage over flock cameras is too little too late.