Flock gets what it deserves

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No Spin Ag said:

T for Texas said:




Nailed it.

First they came for...

A perfect example is when Friday reclassified possession of any non-Delta 9 variant of THC as a felony. Those of you not familiar with computers, most companies have an API for customers to use. It's used so that I can get information or perform actions with a web service via programming (like Python). Nice thing about programming is I set it and forget it. Now I Just track plates going over the border, then have it ping any plate that is caught at a camera near a dispensary over the border. Now generate an alert when it comes back. Figure out a pretext for stop and search, and bingo, caught someone who could be white collar with a spotless record and turned them into a felon for life.
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D-9 is okay still. D-8 and D-10 are what can get you in trouble.
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What I get caught up on is that they are on public easements. Shouldn't the public get to approve or deny the access to public easements?

Also if they're on public easements, shouldn't the entire general public have access to the flock data base? Not just law enforcement?
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CaptnCarl said:

What I get caught up on is that they are on public easements. Shouldn't the public get to approve or deny the access to public easements?

Also if they're on public easements, shouldn't the entire general public have access to the flock data base? Not just law enforcement?


That's the problem(s).

There's minimal citizen input, no oversight and access is limited to LEO without warrant level clearance.
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500,000ags said:

D-9 is okay still. D-8 and D-10 are what can get you in trouble.

For about 3 more months, then that one is also roped in.
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Can you source that? I haven't seen anything about D-9; just D-8, D-10, and THCA.
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I don't understand how anyone can just be like I don't do anything wrong, so I have nothing to worry about. Within 6 months we have the state being overrun with compute hardware and cameras that make surveillance incredibly powerful. Querying in plain English to identify and predict movement, buying, and all other behaviors. And it's not a coincidence that local leaders aren't consulting their constituents. It's clear they are benefiting or being influenced by higher government that is benefitting. I don't even want to think what this looks like 6 years from now, versus just the last 6 months with additional advances in AI. My worry is these cameras eventually get into AI drones, and then woof.
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why do you think you have privacy when driving your car on a public or private road?
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HaroldShipmanAg said:

why do you think you have privacy when driving your car on a public or private road?


Basic privacy, maybe not. Privacy to not have a government run system patterning your movements and habits, absolutely.

The fact that the system even gave officers the ability to stalk women, should tell you all you need to know.
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It's not about total privacy. It's about the access into your privacy and the skillset it takes to manipulate. Surveillance is actively being democratized amongst lower level local law enforcement and a handful of private sector companies.
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500,000ags said:

Can you source that? I haven't seen anything about D-9; just D-8, D-10, and THCA.

https://guides.sll.texas.gov/cannabis/hemp-products

It's a soft ban that limits overall container limit to .5mg. It would be the equivalent of saying "We didn't ban alcohol, you can still get O'Doull's"
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500,000ags said:

I don't understand how anyone can just be like I don't do anything wrong, so I have nothing to worry about. Within 6 months we have the state being overrun with compute hardware and cameras that make surveillance incredibly powerful. Querying in plain English to identify and predict movement, buying, and all other behaviors. And it's not a coincidence that local leaders aren't consulting their constituents. It's clear they are benefiting or being influenced by higher government that is benefitting. I don't even want to think what this looks like 6 years from now, versus just the last 6 months with additional advances in AI. My worry is these cameras eventually get into AI drones, and then woof.


Not to sound crazy but eventually?

That's another whole problem. It's a precedent that is being set.

If you dont mind tens of thousands of fixed private, with government access, surveillance cameras overseeing your actions, then what protest do you have of drones tracking you and scanning everything? You don't own the air and it is a serious crime to take down drones over your property
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Gaeilge said:



according to the Aggieland board this can't happen because these cameras will solve all crime
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Gaeilge said:



Leftist lunatics took em down. They'll put them back up as soon as their party retakes control.
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Don't worry folks, soon they will just incorporate these into every new vehicle along with the new driver surveillance requirements.

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Sid Farkas said:

Gaeilge said:



Leftist lunatics took em down. They'll put them back up as soon as their party retakes control.

You do realize that this isn't a left/right issue?
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Story in replies
mickeyrig06sq3
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Hear's one for the "if you're doing nothing illegal" or "it's only the leftists" crowd.

https://maps.deflock.org/?lat=42.9583&lng=-87.8777&zoom=16.58

You're all ok with Flock cameras pointed right at the entrances and parking lot of the gun range, right?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/SaBLfh6F2LukroKN6?g_st=ac

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Thanks for posting.

I'm wondering if these documented stories of Flock abuse, misuse, 4th Amendment violations..., have caused any on this thread to change their opinions?
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City in California found a greater than 70% error rate in plate recognition.

https://www.cnet.com/home/security/flocks-ai-cameras-may-have-misread-over-70-of-license-plates-creating-new-headaches-for-cities/
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boulderaggie said:

Thanks for posting.

I'm wondering if these documented stories of Flock abuse, misuse, 4th Amendment violations..., have caused any on this thread to change their opinions?

Doubt it. The folks that like Daddy Gubmint knowing everything about everyone want to be governed harder.
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BadMoonRisin said:

Require flock cameras to provide overwatch on "secure" ballot drop boxes in any state and watch this blow up into Krakatoa territory among the WWE-style legislature that we currently have.

Who knows, let's just do it. Couldn't possibly cause any harm, because voter fraud is so non-existent, right?


Underrated post.

If this were done and the leftist take it to court to get them removed, all those existing cameras have to come down as well.
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REMOVE ALL FLOCK CAMERAS NOW!! This is absolutely ridiculous!!



https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/flock-cameras-turned-legal-road-164711321.html
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4th Amendment violation. It needs to stop.
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Didn't know what these things looked like until today, and already noticed a few of them just driving home home from work.
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Gaeilge said:

REMOVE ALL FLOCK CAMERAS NOW!! This is absolutely ridiculous!!



https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/flock-cameras-turned-legal-road-164711321.html

My previous post is just downright eery now.
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It will be gun stores, liquor stores, churches, shooting ranges, protests, whatever the current Big Government doesn't approve. Great for enforcing Covid type lockdowns
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Or to be used as leverage against you (bars, strip clubs, booty calls, etc.) - tracking and photographing.
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OGAG said:

It will be gun stores, liquor stores, churches, shooting ranges, protests, whatever the current Big Government doesn't approve. Great for enforcing Covid type lockdowns

Yup. I Just didn't expect a hypothetical I wrote two days ago to happen damned near word-for-word.
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It will impact your social credit score comrade, be careful
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Gaeilge said:

REMOVE ALL FLOCK CAMERAS NOW!! This is absolutely ridiculous!!



https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/flock-cameras-turned-legal-road-164711321.html

Changed my mind. Cut em all down
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Flock error leads to man at gun point.
 
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