ABATTBQ11 said:pdc093 said:
And of COURSE, protesters outside are in a screaming FRENZY. Shouting that Penny will NEVER have peace in NY.
Disgusting trash. All.
Sounds like terroristic threats to me...
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A Manhattan jury has found Daniel Penny not guilty on criminally negligent homicide in the death of Jordan Neely.
Marine veteran Penny, 26, placed 30-year-old Neely in a chokehold after the older man began acting erratically on a New York City subway, according to law enforcement. Witnesses said Neely, a homeless man, was yelling and acting erratically on the F train after boarding, adding that they felt threatened by his behavior. Prosecutors said Penny held Neely in a chokehold for approximately six minutes.
The more serious charge of second-degree manslaughter was dismissed last week after the jury was hung.
Gator_2 said:
Actually pretty shocked at this. How could they have been split on Count 1, but a unanimous Not Guilty on Count 2?
After the judge dismissed count one, those who were for acquittal could go back saying, "See? We were right as the judge dismissed it."CheeseSndwch said:
The holdout was probably a true believer that became disenchanted with the judge/process when the first count was dropped and flipped as a form of retribution.
aTmAg said:
The fact that this verdict took this long is going to make good Samaritans think twice before coming to aid.
At least one juror put future victims at risk. Way to go moron(s).
Bragg has proven that he and New York judges can do anything they want to do.Kenneth_2003 said:
I won't complain about the verdict, but that's a very strange verdict.
Bragg can't retry the hung charge can he?
Mathguy64 said:
I'm waiting for Bragg to announce he's changed his mind on dropping the first charge. He had his fingers crossed behind his back so it didn't really count the first time.
DannyDuberstein said:aTmAg said:
The fact that this verdict took this long is going to make good Samaritans think twice before coming to aid.
At least one juror put future victims at risk. Way to go moron(s).
I travel to NYC a few times per year for work and have for 20+ years. Never had an issue until the past few years. Guy pushed his way past me as he got on the subway (crowded and I was by the door), and threatened to stab me and others. Announced "I have a knife and I will stab someone". No way am I intervening to help others with the nonsense happening there. Looking out for Numero Uno and that's it. I stepped off that car as the doors closed. Good luck to the rest of you
No. Bragg asked for it to be dismissed after jeopardy had attached.Kenneth_2003 said:
I won't complain about the verdict, but that's a very strange verdict.
Bragg can't retry the hung charge can he?
BadMoonRisin said:
Way too close for comfort. Charges should have never been brought and this DA should be thrown in jail
PCC_80 said:
Apparently the mob is interested in the idea of rioting tonight. Good.
aTmAg said:
I hope Daniel Penny moves to Texas. We could use more guys like him.
bobbranco said:PCC_80 said:
Apparently the mob is interested in the idea of rioting tonight. Good.
Always fun to watch the idiots burn down their neighborhood in a 'peaceful' protest.
Are you sure that Bragg can't change the rules on that ? ? It seems like NY likes to change the rules to make things to happen.aggiehawg said:No. Bragg asked for it to be dismissed after jeopardy had attached.Kenneth_2003 said:
I won't complain about the verdict, but that's a very strange verdict.
Bragg can't retry the hung charge can he?
pdc093 said:ABATTBQ11 said:pdc093 said:
And of COURSE, protesters outside are in a screaming FRENZY. Shouting that Penny will NEVER have peace in NY.
Disgusting trash. All.
Sounds like terroristic threats to me...
Hawk Newsome after verdict announcement: "It's a small world, buddy".....WTAF?!?
I've got $100 to pitch in for those pallets of bricks.PCC_80 said:
Apparently the mob is interested in the idea of rioting tonight. Good. I hope NYC burns, they deserve it for being morons and letting the mob run your city and these race hustlers be your leaders.
Personally I have no plans in ever again going to NYC except possibly change planes through one of the airports. I will take my money and time and spend it in much nicer and safer places.
Also, if I were ever in NYC for some reason I am not helping anyone for any reason because I do not want to go to jail or be sued for helping. So if you need the least bit of protection or even CPR or Mouth-or-Mouth, don't look to me.
Yes. Dismissal after the jury is sat would violate the double jeopardy rule. There's mountains of precedent for that.PCC_80 said:Are you sure that Bragg can't change the rules on that ? ? It seems like NY likes to change the rules to make things to happen.aggiehawg said:No. Bragg asked for it to be dismissed after jeopardy had attached.Kenneth_2003 said:
I won't complain about the verdict, but that's a very strange verdict.
Bragg can't retry the hung charge can he?
Squadron7 said:
Penny's acquittal notwithstanding....the process is the punishment. Alvin Bragg has still succeeded in his quest to outlaw bravery and heroic action by private citizens.
Yep, as I said, I am not helping anyone in that crap city. I am sure many others have also made that decision. Not worth the risk.Squadron7 said:
Penny's acquittal notwithstanding....the process is the punishment. Alvin Bragg has still succeeded in his quest to outlaw bravery and heroic action by private citizens.
The fact that he wasn't acquitted in 10 minutes is all the proof you need that there was at least one complete dumbass on that jury.AggieUSMC said:
I don't really get the logic of being hung on the higher charge yet acquitted on the lower charge.
The holdout hoping to jail him for a serious charge realized, after the first charge was dismissed, that the DA was just looking to get some kind of face saving victory and gave in to the rest of the jurors on the justification issue, rather than wasting more time on deliberation which were not going their way.AggieUSMC said:
I don't really get the logic of being hung on the higher charge yet acquitted on the lower charge.
