Drda said:

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That was a very Kevin Sumlin/Jimbo Fisher type of season in Year 1 for Mike Elko.

Start hot, fade away. The Aggies went 3-10 ATS.

Texas A&M has now lost at least 4 games in a season in 24 of the last 26 years.

Who enjoys this crap ?

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Fire the world?!?

Well in fairness these are Jimbo's recruits
Their is hardly any talent

I think elko has a better eye for talent than Jimbo and I think it will get better by year 3

As for his coaching staff….. it's all this program can afford right now

I wouldn't look to deep into this bowl game
We were playing with nothing but backups…. Including the QB
This was more of a practice / scrimmage

Can someone tell me if reed was injured on the last drive? I saw someone say it but idk if it's true or not

AggieSouth06 said:

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I'm trying not to be a prisoner of the moment, but Jimbo and Sumlin never had a schedule this easy.

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Jimbo had an easier schedule in 2020 (his best season) and 2018

NorthTexasAg22 said:

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Since 2014 FBS State of Texas teams…
Baylor: 4 10 win seasons, has won a conference championship
TCU: 4 10 win seasons, has won a conference championship
SMU: 3 10 win seasons, has won a conference championship
Houston: 2 10 win seasons, has won a conference championship
Texas: 3 10 win seasons, has won a conference championship
UTSA: 2 10 win seasons, has won a conference championship

Teams who don't have 10 win seasons and conference titles
Ags
TxTech
Rice
North Texas
Texas State
UTEP

These are facts and should be sobering to all. No matter what we've done, we've accomplished very little for the amount of investment put in.

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Lol Baylol, tcu, smu, Houston, tu, and utsa played in very soft conferences. This isn't a great comparison. Yes, I get the point of it and it's sad, but let's not compare our seasons. Big 12 from 2014 until about 2021 was just awful. UTSA, smu, and Houston weren't even in power conferences.

Jimbo4win said:

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pointer74 said:

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Well in fairness these are Jimbo's recruits
Their is hardly any talent

I think elko has a better eye for talent than Jimbo and I think it will get better by year 3

As for his coaching staff….. it's all this program can afford right now

I wouldn't look to deep into this bowl game
We were playing with nothing but backups…. Including the QB
This was more of a practice / scrimmage

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Elko may have a better eye for talent but how did he get LESS production from Scourton than Purdue?

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Scourton is a bad example. He literally stopped trying after he solidified his NFL draft status. That's on him, not Elko.

Jimbo4win said:

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pointer74 said:

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Well in fairness these are Jimbo's recruits
Their is hardly any talent

I think elko has a better eye for talent than Jimbo and I think it will get better by year 3

As for his coaching staff….. it's all this program can afford right now

I wouldn't look to deep into this bowl game
We were playing with nothing but backups…. Including the QB
This was more of a practice / scrimmage

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Elko may have a better eye for talent but how did he get LESS production from Scourton than Purdue? The days of a coach starting with nothing, recruiting high school talent, and taking time to develop those players is over. Elko IMMEDIATELY had access to an experienced and talented roster(tied with Oregon for 5th most talented in the country per 247) and got nothing out of it. Meanwhile every other roster with A&M's talent is still in the playoff.

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Elko has a better eye for talent? Based on what?

agracer said:

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AggieSouth06 said:

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I'm trying not to be a prisoner of the moment, but Jimbo and Sumlin never had a schedule this easy.

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Jimbo had an easier schedule in 2020 (his best season) and 2018

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2020 wasn't an easier schedule. 2018 wasn't either.

Jimbo4win said:

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pointer74 said:

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Well in fairness these are Jimbo's recruits
Their is hardly any talent

I think elko has a better eye for talent than Jimbo and I think it will get better by year 3

As for his coaching staff….. it's all this program can afford right now

I wouldn't look to deep into this bowl game
We were playing with nothing but backups…. Including the QB
This was more of a practice / scrimmage

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Elko may have a better eye for talent but how did he get LESS production from Scourton than Purdue? The days of a coach starting with nothing, recruiting high school talent, and taking time to develop those players is over. Elko IMMEDIATELY had access to an experienced and talented roster(tied with Oregon for 5th most talented in the country per 247) and got nothing out of it. Meanwhile every other roster with A&M's talent is still in the playoff.

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Name the players we have that would start at any school still in the playoffs.

W said:

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Sumlin and Jimbo both finished strong in Year 1

the poor finishes came later in their tenure

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So, Elko is ahead of them!

Team needs to be better
Team needs to be deeper &
Most important MUST have better QB slightly better Qb play and we are 10-3 not 8-5

Sunshine rainbows and unicorns

Sit down bus driver.

If your name is on it you damn sure better put your best effort forward.
That is the attitude it takes for compliance. You have embraced the suck.

Welcome

AggieSouth06 said:

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I'm trying not to be a prisoner of the moment, but Jimbo and Sumlin never had a schedule this easy.

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You may want to check actual data before just spouting off what your opinion is.

AggieDub04 said:

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AggieSouth06 said:

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I'm trying not to be a prisoner of the moment, but Jimbo and Sumlin never had a schedule this easy.

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You may want to check actual data before just spouting off what your opinion is.

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Lay it on me man. When was it easier?

agracer said:

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AggieSouth06 said:

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I'm trying not to be a prisoner of the moment, but Jimbo and Sumlin never had a schedule this easy.

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Jimbo had an easier schedule in 2020 (his best season) and 2018

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You are factually incorrect. Do you even watch football or do you just sit in your mom's basement on the computer?

NorthTexasAg22 said:

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Since 2014 FBS State of Texas teams…
Baylor: 4 10 win seasons, has won a conference championship
TCU: 4 10 win seasons, has won a conference championship
SMU: 3 10 win seasons, has won a conference championship
Houston: 2 10 win seasons, has won a conference championship
Texas: 3 10 win seasons, has won a conference championship
UTSA: 2 10 win seasons, has won a conference championship

Teams who don't have 10 win seasons and conference titles
Ags
TxTech
Rice
North Texas
Texas State
UTEP

These are facts and should be sobering to all. No matter what we've done, we've accomplished very little for the amount of investment put in.

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There must be some mistake. Every year, several people on this board predict we go 10-2 or 11-1, surely they were right at some point?

pointer74 said:

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I think elko has a better eye for talent than Jimbo and I think it will get better by year 3

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I'm sorry but this is what we've been hearing for decades now. Many of us don't believe it any more. We are Texas 8&5.

AggieSouth06 said:

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AggieDub04 said:

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AggieSouth06 said:

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I'm trying not to be a prisoner of the moment, but Jimbo and Sumlin never had a schedule this easy.

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You may want to check actual data before just spouting off what your opinion is.

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Lay it on me man. When was it easier?

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Every single year under Jimbo and Sumlin.

Here is A&M's SOS every year since joining the SEC

2012 - 11
2013 - 32
2014 - 15
2015 - 27
2016 - 38
2017 - 39
2018 - 14
2019 - 25
2020 - 12
2021 - 52
2022 - 25
2023 - 24
2024 - 6

That is not a typo. Florida is actually a really good team that had a brutal schedule (#3). Auburn is actually a team with a solid defense and an explosive offense that had a lot of inopportune turnovers. South Carolina was one garbage yellow flag from making the playoffs. Missouri, Florida, and LSU are a top 20 teams per FPI and top 25 per Sagarin. ND and Texas are playoff teams. Even USC is a top 20 FPI team.

A&M finished FPI at 16 and Sagarin at 19.

Class of 94 and it's finally starting to sink in that we just aren't that good. For years I've always felt like we've had some very unlucky things happen to us but all teams do. Last 10 years we are nowhere close to the elite teams in putting out NFL talent. Just glad I was in school during our golden era.

Drda said:

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That was a very Kevin Sumlin/Jimbo Fisher type of season in Year 1 for Mike Elko.

Start hot, fade away. The Aggies went 3-10 ATS.

Texas A&M has now lost at least 4 games in a season in 24 of the last 26 years.

Who enjoys this crap ?

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I do? I'm a fan, and I enjoy Aggie Football?

Fair weather fans, or people that just hop on the bandwagon when it's really going aren't worth squat - which is putting it nicely.

When the team has a turnaround, and wins a Natty, or has a great season there are several people I won't be talking to when I'm celebrating with my friends who stuck by the team through it all. Those people can (insert derogatory statement here), they don't deserve to take part in the celebration.

AggieDub04 said:

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AggieSouth06 said:

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AggieDub04 said:

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AggieSouth06 said:

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I'm trying not to be a prisoner of the moment, but Jimbo and Sumlin never had a schedule this easy.

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You may want to check actual data before just spouting off what your opinion is.

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Lay it on me man. When was it easier?

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Every single year under Jimbo and Sumlin.

Here is A&M's SOS every year since joining the SEC

2012 - 11
2013 - 32
2014 - 15
2015 - 27
2016 - 38
2017 - 39
2018 - 14
2019 - 25
2020 - 12
2021 - 52
2022 - 25
2023 - 24
2024 - 6

That is not a typo. Florida is actually a really good team that had a brutal schedule (#3). Auburn is actually a team with a solid defense and an explosive offense that had a lot of inopportune turnovers. South Carolina was one garbage yellow flag from making the playoffs. Missouri, Florida, and LSU are a top 20 teams per FPI and top 25 per Sagarin. ND and Texas are playoff teams. Even USC is a top 20 FPI team.

A&M finished FPI at 16 and Sagarin at 19.

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Ok man. No Bama, no Georgia, no Ole Miss, no Tennessee. Down LSU at home. But if the data says it was our hardest schedule in the history of the program, so be it. But it sure didn't feel like it.

Whose expectations? This team's performance this year lived up to the consensus expectations for it.

tjburns said:

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Whose expectations? This team's performance this year lived up to the consensus expectations for it.

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Exceeded quite a few on here actually.