There's an obvious reason that isn't allowed to be mentioned.

Jack Squat 83 said:

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William Foster said:

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This should be a wakeup call for many. DO NOT LIVE WHERE GODLESS LIBERALS ARE IN CHARGE. Flee, let those places rot.



No matter what the verdict is, injustice has already been done.

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One can only imagine how ugly she is on the inside.

Like mosquitos, fleas and fire ants, I often wonder why God made leftists.

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She looks like a female evil carrot top

Nuke_Ag05 said:

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No words…just anger.

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This is infuriating!

The terror of having your life decided by someone like that.

Is the jury deliberating again?

While I believe masks to be worthless, I would issue said juror a pass. If ever there was a place to wear one, a cramped court room would qualify. Now if that juror wears that thing home after adjournment…

JUST IN: UnitedHealthCare CEO Brian Thompson shot and k*lled in NYC.

— Gunther Eagleman™ (@GuntherEagleman) December 4, 2024

Wow. This guy definitely had…a substantial net worth. Prayers for his family/loved ones of course.

JamesPShelley said:

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The Last Cobra Commander said:

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While I believe masks to be worthless, I would issue said juror a pass. If ever there was a place to wear one, a cramped court room would qualify. Now if that juror wears that thing home after adjournment…

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No passes. If you're still wearing a mask... you're a ****ing idiot. An unadulterated ****ing idiot. If I was the defendant I would have instructed my attorney to pass on that idiot.

Idiot = liberal. Non-thinker. Traitor. Weirdo.

6 feet... 2 feet... 100 feet... you wear a mask... you're an idiot.

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To me, it depends on how long they have been wearing it. If the whole time, then they are probably a worthless lib.

If they have been maskless, then caught something and decided to wear a mask in order to keep from being booted off the jury or something, then I'd be okay with that.

aTmAg said:

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JamesPShelley said:

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The Last Cobra Commander said:

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While I believe masks to be worthless, I would issue said juror a pass. If ever there was a place to wear one, a cramped court room would qualify. Now if that juror wears that thing home after adjournment…

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No passes. If you're still wearing a mask... you're a ****ing idiot. An unadulterated ****ing idiot. If I was the defendant I would have instructed my attorney to pass on that idiot.

Idiot = liberal. Non-thinker. Traitor. Weirdo.

6 feet... 2 feet... 100 feet... you wear a mask... you're an idiot.

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To me, it depends on how long they have been wearing it. If the whole time, then they are probably a worthless lib.

If they have been maskless, then caught something and decided to wear a mask in order to keep from being booted off the jury or something, then I'd be okay with that.

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2 feet. 6 feet. 100 feet.

1 minute. 2 weeks. 5 years. No passes.

And I'm guessing you didn't mean to be redundant when you used the words "worthless" and "lib" in the same sentence.

JamesPShelley said:

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aTmAg said:

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JamesPShelley said:

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The Last Cobra Commander said:

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While I believe masks to be worthless, I would issue said juror a pass. If ever there was a place to wear one, a cramped court room would qualify. Now if that juror wears that thing home after adjournment…

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No passes. If you're still wearing a mask... you're a ****ing idiot. An unadulterated ****ing idiot. If I was the defendant I would have instructed my attorney to pass on that idiot.

Idiot = liberal. Non-thinker. Traitor. Weirdo.

6 feet... 2 feet... 100 feet... you wear a mask... you're an idiot.

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To me, it depends on how long they have been wearing it. If the whole time, then they are probably a worthless lib.

If they have been maskless, then caught something and decided to wear a mask in order to keep from being booted off the jury or something, then I'd be okay with that.

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2 feet. 6 feet. 100 feet.

1 minute. 2 weeks. 5 years. No passes.

And I'm guessing you didn't mean to be redundant when you used the words "worthless" and "lib" in the same sentence.

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Correct on me being improperly redundant. Thanks for catching my error.


And what I mean is this:

If I was on the OJ jury, and I had a chance to put his ass away, then I'd be DAMNED if a simple cold became the excuse to boot my ass off the jury. If wearing a mask, despite my desire not to, were to keep the the judge or whoever from using that as the excuse to kick my ass off, then I'd wear the mask, just so I can do my part to put OJ away, or hang the crap out of the jury if everybody else wanted to let him off.

Jack Squat 83 said:

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William Foster said:

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This should be a wakeup call for many. DO NOT LIVE WHERE GODLESS LIBERALS ARE IN CHARGE. Flee, let those places rot.



No matter what the verdict is, injustice has already been done.

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One can only imagine how ugly she is on the inside.

Like mosquitos, fleas and fire ants, I often wonder why God made leftists.

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Sometimes I feel like it was to test our faith, and our ability to pray for our enemies, rather than hate them.

This is the number one thing I struggle with in my life...i despise modern leftists so much and consider them anti-Christ in nature...but Christ did not command us to hate sinners, even the most deviant and wicked ones (and there is no more wicked and evil group than the modern left, who want gay p0rn books in your childrens school libraries and support men in womens locker rooms and drag queen story hour). We are just not supposed to gather with them and let them influence us or the flock.

There is not a more detestable lot on all of the earth though. I can at least understand how a poor uneducated desperate young man may fall into the arms of the cartels, jihadist groups etc.

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Win or lose, the DA screwed him. This sham of a trial is costing him a fortune

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Hopefully not. He has a good head start with a GiveSendGo fundraiser

William Foster said:

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Jack Squat 83 said:

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William Foster said:

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This should be a wakeup call for many. DO NOT LIVE WHERE GODLESS LIBERALS ARE IN CHARGE. Flee, let those places rot.



No matter what the verdict is, injustice has already been done.

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One can only imagine how ugly she is on the inside.

Like mosquitos, fleas and fire ants, I often wonder why God made leftists.

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Sometimes I feel like it was to test our faith, and our ability to pray for our enemies, rather than hate them.

This is the number one thing I struggle with in my life...i despise modern leftists so much and consider them anti-Christ in nature...but Christ did not command us to hate sinners, even the most deviant and wicked ones (and there is no more wicked and evil group than the modern left, who want gay p0rn books in your childrens school libraries and support men in womens locker rooms and drag queen story hour). We are just not supposed to gather with them and let them influence us or the flock.

There is not a more detestable lot on all of the earth though. I can at least understand how a poor uneducated desperate young man may fall into the arms of the cartels, jihadist groups etc.

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This is EXTREMELY well said.

TresPuertas said:

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William Foster said:

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Jack Squat 83 said:

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William Foster said:

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This should be a wakeup call for many. DO NOT LIVE WHERE GODLESS LIBERALS ARE IN CHARGE. Flee, let those places rot.



No matter what the verdict is, injustice has already been done.

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One can only imagine how ugly she is on the inside.

Like mosquitos, fleas and fire ants, I often wonder why God made leftists.

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Sometimes I feel like it was to test our faith, and our ability to pray for our enemies, rather than hate them.

This is the number one thing I struggle with in my life...i despise modern leftists so much and consider them anti-Christ in nature...but Christ did not command us to hate sinners, even the most deviant and wicked ones (and there is no more wicked and evil group than the modern left, who want gay p0rn books in your childrens school libraries and support men in womens locker rooms and drag queen story hour). We are just not supposed to gather with them and let them influence us or the flock.

There is not a more detestable lot on all of the earth though. I can at least understand how a poor uneducated desperate young man may fall into the arms of the cartels, jihadist groups etc.

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This is EXTREMELY well said.

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This is EXTREMELY a bad take on God, evil, and man's free will. Post on R&P board for a deeper dive.

aTmAg said:

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Is the jury still deliberating?

If so then WTFx100?

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People weighing the gravity of their verdict and knowing soon, their name will be leaked as being on the jury. And still living in NYC.

Not trial related, but on the mask discussion:

We live in a very blue area of a blue state (Eugene, OR) and there is a restaurant we go to a couple of times a month and the same bartender always seems to be working and she always wears a cloth black mask, but only over her mouth and not her nose. I wonder what mental deficiency makes her think she "needs" wear something she doesn't even need to wear and not even wear it correctly. Also, it looks like she wears the same one for days on end because there are stains on it.

Idiots.

PabloSerna said:

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TresPuertas said:

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William Foster said:

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Jack Squat 83 said:

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William Foster said:

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This should be a wakeup call for many. DO NOT LIVE WHERE GODLESS LIBERALS ARE IN CHARGE. Flee, let those places rot.



No matter what the verdict is, injustice has already been done.

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One can only imagine how ugly she is on the inside.

Like mosquitos, fleas and fire ants, I often wonder why God made leftists.

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Sometimes I feel like it was to test our faith, and our ability to pray for our enemies, rather than hate them.

This is the number one thing I struggle with in my life...i despise modern leftists so much and consider them anti-Christ in nature...but Christ did not command us to hate sinners, even the most deviant and wicked ones (and there is no more wicked and evil group than the modern left, who want gay p0rn books in your childrens school libraries and support men in womens locker rooms and drag queen story hour). We are just not supposed to gather with them and let them influence us or the flock.

There is not a more detestable lot on all of the earth though. I can at least understand how a poor uneducated desperate young man may fall into the arms of the cartels, jihadist groups etc.

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This is EXTREMELY well said.

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This is EXTREMELY a bad take on God, evil, and man's free will. Post on R&P board for a deeper dive.

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moved it to R&P for further discussion. Honestly am curious about opinions on this one.

https://abc7ny.com/post/daniel-penny-trial-jury-asks-see-several-videos-including-police-bodycam-footage/15622529/

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Jurors resumed deliberations Wednesday and asked to review police and bystander video at the heart of the chokehold manslaughter case against Daniel Penny as well as to hear a readback of testimony.

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A note on Tuesday asked for the judge's instructions about justification.

To convict, prosecutors have told the jury that Penny's use of lethal force must be considered unjustifiable and that Penny acted recklessly and consciously disregarded the substantial risk of putting Neely in the chokehold for so long. Defense attorneys told the jury that Penny was only trying to protect subway passengers.

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That's somewhat encouraging.

I feel the opposite. But, I'll defer to your knowledge and experience in this field.

Who?mikejones! said:

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I feel the opposite. But, I'll defer to your knowledge and experience in this field.

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At least the jury has justiciable homicide in mind. Can still be a murder but not punishable due to being justified.

Ive legitimately been praying for him and this jury. Are these state crimes or considered federal. If federal maybe Trump could pardon him?

aggiehawg said:

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Who?mikejones! said:

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I feel the opposite. But, I'll defer to your knowledge and experience in this field.

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At least the jury has justiciable homicide in mind. Can still be a murder but not punishable due to being justified.

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Murder is the illegal intentional killing of another.

If it's justified, it's not murder.

Right?

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Murder is the illegal intentional killing of another.

If it's justified, it's not murder.

Right?

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Different states have different definitions of what is murder. Some do degrees some do voluntary manslaughter.

An intentional act that results or contributes in large part to a death is still murder. But affirmative defenses such as self defense or defense of others means it will not be criminally punished.

aggiehawg said:

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Murder is the illegal intentional killing of another.

If it's justified, it's not murder.

Right?

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Different states have different definitions of what is murder. Some do degrees some do voluntary manslaughter.

An intentional act that results or contributes in large part to a death is still murder. But affirmative defenses such as self defense or defense of others means it will not be criminally punished.

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Self defense and defense of third parties are not affirmative defenses. The defense has the burden of proof on affirmative defenses like insanity. Defense of third party is an absolute defense and must be disproved by the prosecution beyond a reasonable doubt.

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Self defense and defense of third parties are not affirmative defenses. The defense has the burden of proof on affirmative defenses like insanity. Defense of third party is an absolute defense and must be disproved by the prosecution beyond a reasonable doub

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Depends on the state. There is no universal rule here.

Is the jury still out?