aTmAg said:

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Robin Hood is a socialist abomination.

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good Lord.

It i entirely reasonable to discuss whether funding of schools at something higher than the local level is a good idea. Reasonable people could certainly disagree.

But "socialist?"

Some of the most right wing governments on the planet fund their local schools at a higher-than-local level.

I also would like to see how covid eff with budgets, spending disparities and so forth. The feds were giving out money like candy.

Yes it is. Equity is the at the core of socialism.

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My money should follow my truck, simple as that.

If that's the state highway I drive on to get to my town, great.

If that's the street into my neighborhood, great.

If that's the private road into my ranch, great.

The fact is that the money I pay in gas taxes should only fund the roads on which I drive.

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if everyone thought like you, the vast majority of rural Texas would still not have paved roads

aTmAg said:

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This should be obvious to everybody.)

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what is "obvious" is the you do not understand the meaning of the word "socialist."

not every policy that you dislike is "socialist." Not every bad policy is "socialist."

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My money should follow my truck, simple as that.

If that's the state highway I drive on to get to my town, great.

If that's the street into my neighborhood, great.

If that's the private road into my ranch, great.

The fact is that the money I pay in gas taxes should only fund the roads on which I drive.

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if everyone thought like you, the vast majority of rural Texas would still not have paved roads

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Speaking of roads, the City streets in austin are the worst of any city I've ever lived in (cstat, Dallas, few, San antonio).

I live in FL. The "step up for students" scholarship program seems to be going well here.

" We call it personalized education. This is our driving mission. We unite the community to provide scholarships that open doors to a stronger future. With this support, Florida students can choose the right learning environment and connect with the resources they need to reach their full potential.

With Step Up For Students Scholarships, children gain access to private or public schools that would otherwise be out of their reach. Students who were bullied get a fresh start. Struggling readers excel with extra support. And those with unique abilities access a wider range of academic programs and materials to meet their needs.

These opportunities are made possible by people in our community who continually step up for Florida students. Through tax programs, individual donations, workplace giving, planned giving, and more, they enable our students to thrive from pre-school through high school and beyond."

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aTmAg said:

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This should be obvious to everybody.)

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what is "obvious" is that I don't understand adult conversations

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FIFY

Antoninus said:

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aTmAg said:

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Robin Hood is a socialist abomination.

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good Lord.

It i entirely reasonable to discuss whether funding of schools at something higher than the local level is a good idea. Reasonable people could certainly disagree.

But "socialist?"

Some of the most right wing governments on the planet fund their local schools at a higher-than-local level.

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My particular school district has had right at $1 billion stolen from our residents. What would you call that?

Agthatbuilds said:

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It's not like they actually should get a check.

Whatever $ amount assigned to a school per pupil should follow that kid to whatever school they attend, not automatically be claimed by whatever school they'd be enrolled in without choice.

Either way, you the individual tax payer, will be supplementing the same way

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Tell me you don't understand how school funding works without saying you don't understand how school funding works...

My tax dollars going to others' PRIVATE schools...SMH
Nothing but another wealth redistribution program.

Booma94 said:

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Agthatbuilds said:

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It's not like they actually should get a check.

Whatever $ amount assigned to a school per pupil should follow that kid to whatever school they attend, not automatically be claimed by whatever school they'd be enrolled in without choice.

Either way, you the individual tax payer, will be supplementing the same way

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Tell me you don't understand how school funding works without saying you don't understand how school funding works...

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Which part does he not understand?

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angus55 said:

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Agthatbuilds said:

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My money should follow my kids. simple as that. If that's my local public school, great.

If that's the high school across town, great.

If that's a charter school, great.

If that's a private school, great.

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If I don't have kids in school give me my money back, great

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So you are for pure privatization then. Good, you are catching on.

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No, just taking that logic to natural conclusion.

Privatization would not be good for our national interests . Look at student loan stupidity. And its natural conclusion would be haves and have nots in terms of learning and growth of citizens. Public education is a public good when done correctly. It is important to the what should be the real economic engine of our economy. And full privatization would be a detriment. It is something I don't mind paying taxes for when administered correctly.

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Texas school alliance

Texas tribune

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So a Dem backed and funded PC and a Soros owned newspaper.

Too bad Kamala didn't weigh in too

How did Americans ever get educated without the government running everything? We just need to pour even more tax dollars into schools, that usually solves everything.

Logos Stick said:

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Booma94 said:

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Agthatbuilds said:

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It's not like they actually should get a check.

Whatever $ amount assigned to a school per pupil should follow that kid to whatever school they attend, not automatically be claimed by whatever school they'd be enrolled in without choice.

Either way, you the individual tax payer, will be supplementing the same way

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Tell me you don't understand how school funding works without saying you don't understand how school funding works...

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Which part does he not understand?

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Schools receive state funds based on average daily attendance. So they receive money for the students that attend the school. If a kid moves schools, the school they left has 1 less kid so the school gets less money. The school the kid went to has one more kid, so they get more money. The money follows the kid.

Schools do not get money from the state based on how many kids "should" be there, they get money based on how many kids ARE there.

Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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Jacey Jetton goes down to Matt morgan as well in fort bend.

Can't vote to impeach and obstruct vouchers.

Total death sentence. Kind of saw it coming especially when Neils called him a liberal.

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Jetton was for vouchers, was endorsed by Abbott.

10andBOUNCE said:

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My tax dollars going to others' PRIVATE schools...SMH
Nothing but another wealth redistribution program.

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Your tax dollars go with your kids to where your kids attend school. If you don't have kids, your tax dollars are already paying for other's education so what's the issue?

I'm paying for my neighbor's kid's education in addition to paying for my kids tuition at a private school. Why should I have to pay for my neighbor's kids?

Booma94 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Booma94 said:

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Agthatbuilds said:

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It's not like they actually should get a check.

Whatever $ amount assigned to a school per pupil should follow that kid to whatever school they attend, not automatically be claimed by whatever school they'd be enrolled in without choice.

Either way, you the individual tax payer, will be supplementing the same way

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Tell me you don't understand how school funding works without saying you don't understand how school funding works...

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Which part does he not understand?

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Schools receive state funds based on average daily attendance. So they receive money for the students that attend the school. If a kid moves schools, the school they left has 1 less kid so the school gets less money. The school the kid went to has one more kid, so they get more money. The money follows the kid.

Schools do not get money based on how many kids "should" be there, they get money based on how many kids ARE there.

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I think you misunderstood his post. A kid enrolled means a kid attending based on what I read.

Antoninus said:

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aTmAg said:

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This should be obvious to everybody.)

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what is "obvious" is the you do not understand the meaning of the word "socialist."

not every policy that you dislike is "socialist." Not every bad policy is "socialist."

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Redistributing "from each according to their ability to each according to their need" is the bedrock of socialism.

Truth is truth. No matter how much you wish it weren't so.


At least I have to give you props for being adverse to the word socialism. That's something.

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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Jacey Jetton goes down to Matt morgan as well in fort bend.

Can't vote to impeach and obstruct vouchers.

Total death sentence. Kind of saw it coming especially when Neils called him a liberal.

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lol. Went to vote. The Jetton camp hassled me to vote for Jetton. I said, rather loudly, that the only reason I took the time to come to the primary at all was to vote against Jetton.

The Morgan folks across the parking lot gave me a big yeaaaaa!!

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I was at Jaceys house for a meeting in December. I think he knew this was coming.

Logos Stick said:

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Booma94 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Booma94 said:

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Agthatbuilds said:

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It's not like they actually should get a check.

Whatever $ amount assigned to a school per pupil should follow that kid to whatever school they attend, not automatically be claimed by whatever school they'd be enrolled in without choice.

Either way, you the individual tax payer, will be supplementing the same way

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Tell me you don't understand how school funding works without saying you don't understand how school funding works...

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Which part does he not understand?

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Schools receive state funds based on average daily attendance. So they receive money for the students that attend the school. If a kid moves schools, the school they left has 1 less kid so the school gets less money. The school the kid went to has one more kid, so they get more money. The money follows the kid.

Schools do not get money based on how many kids "should" be there, they get money based on how many kids ARE there.

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I think you misunderstood his post. A kid enrolled means a kid attending based on what I read.

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He said money "should follow that kid to whatever school they attend". That's exactly what happens. I'm not sure what I misunderstood.

Thanks for your concern. Funding comes from local taxes plus average daily attendance

Each student has a $ amount assigned to them. That $ amount should follow the student, where ever they choose to attend.

The state give about $9500 or so for each student on attendance.

At a minimum, that money should follow the student. I admit I'm not smart enough to figure out how local taxes should be distributed, but, I'm gonna err that the taxes I pay locally should also follow our kids to the school of our choice.

Maybe that means changing who has taxing authority and how the taxes are administered, but so be it.

Booma94 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Booma94 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Booma94 said:

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Agthatbuilds said:

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It's not like they actually should get a check.

Whatever $ amount assigned to a school per pupil should follow that kid to whatever school they attend, not automatically be claimed by whatever school they'd be enrolled in without choice.

Either way, you the individual tax payer, will be supplementing the same way

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Tell me you don't understand how school funding works without saying you don't understand how school funding works...

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Which part does he not understand?

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Schools receive state funds based on average daily attendance. So they receive money for the students that attend the school. If a kid moves schools, the school they left has 1 less kid so the school gets less money. The school the kid went to has one more kid, so they get more money. The money follows the kid.

Schools do not get money based on how many kids "should" be there, they get money based on how many kids ARE there.

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I think you misunderstood his post. A kid enrolled means a kid attending based on what I read.

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He said money "should follow that kid to whatever school they attend". That's exactly what happens. I'm not sure what I misunderstood.

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That's not exactly what happens. A child can't choose a private school and have the money follow them.

Does it follow to a private school? What about a school outside the district?

Logos Stick said:

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Booma94 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Booma94 said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Booma94 said:

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Agthatbuilds said:

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It's not like they actually should get a check.

Whatever $ amount assigned to a school per pupil should follow that kid to whatever school they attend, not automatically be claimed by whatever school they'd be enrolled in without choice.

Either way, you the individual tax payer, will be supplementing the same way

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Tell me you don't understand how school funding works without saying you don't understand how school funding works...

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Which part does he not understand?

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Schools receive state funds based on average daily attendance. So they receive money for the students that attend the school. If a kid moves schools, the school they left has 1 less kid so the school gets less money. The school the kid went to has one more kid, so they get more money. The money follows the kid.

Schools do not get money based on how many kids "should" be there, they get money based on how many kids ARE there.

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I think you misunderstood his post. A kid enrolled means a kid attending based on what I read.

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He said money "should follow that kid to whatever school they attend". That's exactly what happens. I'm not sure what I misunderstood.

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That's not exactly what happens. A child can't choose a private school and have the money follow them.

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A child SHOULD have the money follow him to ANY school he goes to. Including private. Otherwise it's a crappy voucher system.

The horse is out of the barn at this point. These are the states with some form of choice program:

aTmAg said:

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angus55 said:

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aTmAg said:

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angus55 said:

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Agthatbuilds said:

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My money should follow my kids. simple as that. If that's my local public school, great.

If that's the high school across town, great.

If that's a charter school, great.

If that's a private school, great.

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If I don't have kids in school give me my money back, great

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So you are for pure privatization then. Good, you are catching on.

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No, just taking that logic to natural conclusion.

Privatization would not be good for our national interests . Look at student loan stupidity. And its natural conclusion would be haves and have nots in terms of learning and growth of citizens. Public education is a public good when done correctly. It is important to the what should be the real economic engine of our economy. And full privatization would be a detriment. It is something I don't mind paying taxes for when administered correctly.

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The student loan stupidity is created and fueled completely by government. To pretend that is an issue of "privatization" is a joke.

And it's improper to call something a "public good" merely because you want government to pay for it. Otherwise, I can just declare my own personal Lamborghini to be a "public good". There is an economic definition of public good (that it be non-rivalrous and non-excludable), and education does not fit into that category. And THAT is why government schools have been such a failure. Government sucks at providing private goods.

If you really wanted schools to be good (and understood economics), then you would be BEGGING for schools to be 100% privatized.

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