And properly compensated for doing so. Carrot and stick approach.
Rolling blackouts in Texas
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Big Bucks said:
And properly compensated for doing so. Carrot and stick approach.
I agree, if the public want a reliable grid, they're going to have to pay for it. This includes protecting against a once in 20 year occurrence.
Looks like they've actually got load shedding in the plan, as the forecast demand is down over the next hour.t-shirt fan said:
From Bluebonnect Electric:
At 7 p.m., for the third time in 90 minutes, ERCOT increased the amount of energy utilities are required to shed via statewide rotating outages. Each utility is assigned prorated share of the overall statewide requirement. Expect mandatory rotating outages tonight and tomorrow.
I would give anything for 15 on and 15 off. Hell, I'd gladly take 5 minutes every hour. We've been out since 5:30 AM. Getting damn cold in here, even with a fire going.
Shanked Punt said:Zobel said:
ERCOT is going to say plants should do more weatherization. Well they said the same thing in 2011. Didn't seem to do much good.
It's going to take more than a simple best practices request after a voluntary audit. We've seen this time and time again, the industry will not do this on their own. The must be forced through regulation.
They don't have the money because of the draconian regulations from an EPA that designated CO2 a pollutant. Having to spend a bunch of money mitigating CO2 took money from needed maintenance, as did the diversion of money to fantasy wind.
t-shirt fan said:
From Bluebonnect Electric:
At 7 p.m., for the third time in 90 minutes, ERCOT increased the amount of energy utilities are required to shed via statewide rotating outages. Each utility is assigned prorated share of the overall statewide requirement. Expect mandatory rotating outages tonight and tomorrow.
I'm on bluebonnet. God save me.
um when was the last time that the entire state was in a winter warning? When was the last time that the entire state. The coldest on record temp ever recorded in Austin was -2 in 1949. They will get close with this storm.Shanked Punt said:Big Bucks said:
And properly compensated for doing so. Carrot and stick approach.
I agree, if the public want a reliable grid, they're going to have to pay for it. This includes protecting against a once in 20 year occurrence.
20 year storm my ass. This is a 100 year storm. I think you learn from it and set up catches so failures don't happen again. However, if you are wanting infrastructure Ike they have in Montana or Michigan or Canada, where this weather is normal, that is just wasteful government spending.
But then again, I guess I should acknowledge who I am speaking to currently.
How does that excuse not be prepared for a known and predictable event?
Gap said:
How does that excuse not be prepared for a known and predictable event?
I got a bunch of firewood and filled my truck up with gas. Can always go sit in the truck with the heater going.
Oh I am not saying heads shouldn't roll for this. However, if people are wanting government to spend money to protect against something that they have shown they can't prepare for when they know in advance, why would people want them to build/do anything to prevent it from happening in the future?Gap said:
How does that excuse not be prepared for a known and predictable event?
It's government. They can't do anything correctly.
Edit for spelling with fat fingers
1989, 2011 and now 2021. That is three times in a little over 30 years by my math, not once in a century. But considering the ERCOT system was actually designed in deregulation to have shortages once every ten years, you can say it is working perfectly. I wouldn't say it, but you can.
Hidalgo is frantically looking for a way to refrigerate vaccines after power outage at supply storage!
black_ice said:Gap said:
How does that excuse not be prepared for a known and predictable event?
I got a bunch of firewood and filled my truck up with gas. Can always go sit in the truck with the heater going.
Good for you, my question relates to the industry that generates and transmits power. Lives and significant property will be lost because of this predictable event that they were not ready for.
thirdcoast said:
Hidalgo is frantically looking for a way to refrigerate vaccines after power outage at supply storage!
Lol morons
Great response. Thank you for taking the time to do that.
redcrayon said:
My elderly mother is alone and without power for 16 hours. I'm heartsick and many states away.
My mom is 2hrs away and the same.
Gap said:black_ice said:Gap said:
How does that excuse not be prepared for a known and predictable event?
I got a bunch of firewood and filled my truck up with gas. Can always go sit in the truck with the heater going.
Good for you, my question relates to the industry that generates and transmits power. Lives and significant property will be lost because of this predictable event that they were not ready for.
Don't rely on these fools in emergencies. Have your own stuff. Generator, propane heater etc etc
Just talked to a family member that works at the plant and it's only 1 unit down
Why is it down?
Best post I have read all day.
They've been one unit down all day I think?AggiePeeps06 said:
Just talked to a family member that works at the plant and it's only 1 unit down
Ya this isn't super new.. was mention few hours ago several pages back
TAMU1990 said:redcrayon said:
My elderly mother is alone and without power for 16 hours. I'm heartsick and many states away.
My mom is 2hrs away and the same.
So sorry. It's an awful situation.
It's been down since this morning,