*** STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER *** (Spoiler Thread)

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I don't like TLJ, but the obsessive hatred of it here has officially become worse and more annoying than the movie itself. We're now fully in forum 16 mode, except instead of an unquenchable thirst for liberal tears, it's become a gleeful obsession with TLJ defender tears, and someone please just shoot me if that's all this is going to be from here on out...
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honestly, what a lost opportunity this series was.

rey was a good character.
they still had luke, han, leia, chewy, the droids
how do you F that up?

TFA - with the beautiful effects and visuals, and music... how do you cheapen out with the 'first order' bigger death star same movie' tripe?

TLJ... just puke

this movie - such an epic ending it should have been, but it just went shallow and rushed instead.

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Swarely said:

Was this posted yet?




I was irritated they didn't pay off the tease, however it is even worse in my opinion when they pay it off later in an interview. It's either important enough to be in the movie or you leave it to the viewer or a book.
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TCTTS said:

I don't like TLJ, but the obsessive hatred of it here has officially become worse and more annoying than the movie itself. We're now fully in forum 16 mode, except instead of an unquenchable thirst for liberal tears, it's become a gleeful obsession with TLJ defender tears, and someone please just shoot me if that's all this is going to be from here on out...


Take it to the outdoor board.
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TCTTS said:

I don't like TLJ, but the obsessive hatred of it here has officially become worse and more annoying than the movie itself. We're now fully in forum 16 mode, except instead of an unquenchable thirst for liberal tears, it's become a gleeful obsession with TLJ defender tears, and someone please just shoot me if that's all this is going to be from here on out...


Oh hush.
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ok, now we know that lightsaber vs lightning in close quarters kills palps... in RoTS, Mace is doing the same move to him reflecting his lightning back to him until Anakin steps in. I always thought Palpatine was messing with them to get Anakin to the darkside. Given this new knowledge, was he really in trouble?
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Flashdiaz said:

ok, now we know that lightsaber vs lightning in close quarters kills palps... in RoTS, Mace is doing the same move to him reflecting his lightning back to him until Anakin steps in. I always thought Palpatine was messing with them to get Anakin to the darkside. Given this new knowledge, was he really in trouble?
I will say that Mace was about to prevent everything bad from happening ... until that punk whiny brat intervened.
Yep, Palps was in trouble.
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TCTTS said:

I don't like TLJ, but the obsessive hatred of it here has officially become worse and more annoying than the movie itself. We're now fully in forum 16 mode, except instead of an unquenchable thirst for liberal tears, it's become a gleeful obsession with TLJ defender tears, and someone please just shoot me if that's all this is going to be from here on out...


I think you seriously underestimate the outright hatred many fans, not just on Texags but across the net, have for TLJ. And many of these reviews keep trying to pretend the hatred comes from a small corner of fandom. Yet the RT audience score for TROS is 86% and the audience score for TLJ is 43%. The critic scores are equally reversed.
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TCTTS said:

I don't like TLJ, but the obsessive hatred of it here has officially become worse and more annoying than the movie itself. We're now fully in forum 16 mode, except instead of an unquenchable thirst for liberal tears, it's become a gleeful obsession with TLJ defender tears, and someone please just shoot me if that's all this is going to be from here on out...
Really tired of these diatribes full of name-calling for anyone who has the temerity to express an opinion you haven't pre-approved. If everyone sounds like an angry psycho to you, the problem may not be with "everyone."
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HoustonAg05 said:

My hot take:

John Williams' best SW score


That little Imperial March echo that played when Rey got to the throne room in Death Star II was just perfect. Goosebumps
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Body By Fisher said:

TCTTS said:

I don't like TLJ, but the obsessive hatred of it here has officially become worse and more annoying than the movie itself. We're now fully in forum 16 mode, except instead of an unquenchable thirst for liberal tears, it's become a gleeful obsession with TLJ defender tears, and someone please just shoot me if that's all this is going to be from here on out...
Really tired of these diatribes full of name-calling for anyone who has the temerity to express an opinion you haven't pre-approved. If everyone sounds like an angry psycho to you, the problem may not be with "everyone."

Apologies for living in a world where saying "*****Rian Johnson," wishing death upon him, and wanting him to "eat a d*ck," etc, etc for directing a movie you didn't like trends toward off-putting and yes, somewhat insane. I love how I'm the guy agreeing that the movie is bad, but saying maybe let's chill on the crassness, and somehow *I'm* in the wrong. Gotta love that TexAgs logic.
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Bo Darville said:

TCTTS said:

I don't like TLJ, but the obsessive hatred of it here has officially become worse and more annoying than the movie itself. We're now fully in forum 16 mode, except instead of an unquenchable thirst for liberal tears, it's become a gleeful obsession with TLJ defender tears, and someone please just shoot me if that's all this is going to be from here on out...


I think you seriously underestimate the outright hatred many fans, not just on Texags but across the net, have for TLJ. And many of these reviews keep trying to pretend the hatred comes from a small corner of fandom. Yet the RT audience score for TROS is 86% and the audience score for TLJ is 43%. The critic scores are equally reversed.

I absolutely do not underestimate the outright hatred many fans have for TLJ, because I'm reminded of it on literally a daily basis on this board. I'm not complaining about the hate. I get the hate. It's the grown ass men on this board (and everywhere else online) expressing such utter vitriol for the director himself - the director of a movie geared for a younger audience, at that - in such vulgar and childish fashion, that I have problem with. It's sooooo incredibly tired and dumb at this point.
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TCTTS said:

Body By Fisher said:

TCTTS said:

I don't like TLJ, but the obsessive hatred of it here has officially become worse and more annoying than the movie itself. We're now fully in forum 16 mode, except instead of an unquenchable thirst for liberal tears, it's become a gleeful obsession with TLJ defender tears, and someone please just shoot me if that's all this is going to be from here on out...
Really tired of these diatribes full of name-calling for anyone who has the temerity to express an opinion you haven't pre-approved. If everyone sounds like an angry psycho to you, the problem may not be with "everyone."

Apologies for living in a world where saying "*****Rian Johnson," wishing death upon him, and wanting him to "eat a d*ck," etc, etc for directing a movie you didn't like trends toward off-putting and yes, somewhat insane.
I love how I'm the guy agreeing that the movie is bad, but saying maybe let's chill on the crassness, and somehow *I'm* in the wrong. Gotta love that TexAgs logic.


What the hell are you talking about? I just reread the couple of pages and I don't see anything like that on there.
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I've 100% seen "*****Rian Johnson" at least twice this past weekend in one of the half dozen Star Wars threads currently on the front page, and I've seen the other general sentiments many, many times here over the past few weeks/months, but especially as of late, and especially since last Monday when reactions started to drop. I'm not exaggerating in any way. And I'm not someone who gives a sh*t about language, either. It's just grown men expressing such over-the-top ill-will toward someone who directed a Star Wars movie that rubs me the wrong way, but more than anything it's just so tired and cliched at this point.
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TCTTS said:

Basically, this thread...




Soooo, in an attempt to potentially calm this discussion down and make it a little more civil, I don't disagree with the substance of that tweet, but it's purposely ignoring WHY people choose to label one "lesser" movie good and another bad.

In the case of TLJ and TROS, Abrams clearly made TROS, with all its warts and blemishes, from a place of respect for the source material and its fans.

Meanwhile, Johnson clearly made TLJ with the intention of disrespecting the source material and its fans. He purposely tried, and succeeded, in subverting and changing the course of fan's expectations and love of source material that goes back 42 years.

It's very simple...Abrams knew Star Wars was bigger than himself; Johnson made it about himself and his desires.

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Oh, and as mediocre as some of the plot choices and dialogue in TROS, the plot choices and dialogue in TLJ were laughably horrible.

I seriously don't understand how Johnson can write Brick and Knives Out AND TLJ. One of these is not like the others in quality.
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Excellent point. It's Johnson's selfishness that drives the well earned vitriol. Was he even a Star Wars fan growing up?
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Funny how I don't see TCTTS criticizing how ROTS is being criticized, including being referred to as a "bukkake of retcon jizz". Can we get a special centralized TCTTS approved guide of how to criticize and what opinions matter and which ones don't? Then we can just get a link and save some scroll trouble.

This is a movie most of us have loved since we were little kids. Over 40 years. It's going to draw out emotions.
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I just came here to say I hate TLJ. Now go about your business.
TCTTS
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I don't know how many times or ways I can say criticize the movie(s) all you want. I'm talking specifically about grown ass men expressing seething hatred for the director himself. It's not that hard to track, but sure, keep twisting my words.
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I'm sorry, but I'n calling bull***** There was none of that on the last page. You posted a tweet. People disagreed and made a negative observation of TLJ that did not mention Rian Johnson. Then we we this lecture from you. I'm not twisting your words. I'm seeing right thru them.
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Again, I said over the course of this past week, and then the weeks/months prior. Are you really this bad at reading?
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Funny timing for your lecture then.
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So what kind of canon materials can we expect now to come out of this movie? I'd like books on:

Rey training Finn
Poe the spice runner
Rey's parents/her childhood

Plus now there are no other movies they need to hold off for they should be able to give the story group and authors freedom to fill in Luke's 30 years more than they have
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Seems like they set up Finn teaming up with other former Storm Troopers to liberate current Troopers or destroy a Trooper brainwashing facility.
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Man this thread really got out of hand quickly.
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Blatant Disregard said:

Man this thread really got out of hand quickly.

TCTTS stabbed a guy with a trident.

He should probably lay low for a while.
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I'm very much looking forward to the upcoming story about josh and Susan Palpatine going off to sell their daughter and get smashing drunk.
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Did not read every post, so please excuse:

Watched the first Star Wars... or the 4th, whatever... in the theatre in 1977. I assumed this would be the last one. Will there be more?
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There will be more set in the SW universe in some way. but not Skywalker related.
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It seems like you are losing it, man.
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DannyDuberstein said:

including being referred to as a "bukkake of retcon jizz".


Lol Thought that was pretty good myself
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Just saw it for the second time and I enjoyed it even more. My kid loved it and, surprisingly, so did my wife. So for me this was a fun movie and a hell of a ride.

As an aside - I am amazed at the level of examination done on this thread about a series about space wizards with laser swords.
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So? Harry Potter is about actual wizards and it's great.
 
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