I want Coach Earley back

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phatty26
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IslanderAg04 said:

phatty26 said:

I'm sorry you do not lose at home to Mizzou. That was inexcusable that Mizzou team is horrible and the Friday night loss to them was one of the worst losses in A&M sports history. That was like losing to a NAIA or juco team. I was fully behind him until that series but if he stays it will fine, but those losses opened the door to be let go IMO.
I keep hearing O'Connor,
If they do let him go they better talk to the KU coach Fitzgerald.


I get it, but you take the series against Ten, LSU, and Ark. with your form of thinking we would have 1 and done coaches in every sport. Hell Schlos lost a series to fkn Portland at home in 2023.


I'm saying I'm ok either way but losing to Mizzou could cost him his job.
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Other then new blood what new pitching coach with a good resume is going to come to A&M for a coach with his head on the chopping block if he doesn't have a really good year in 2026?
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dermdoc said:

No matter what happens tonight.


Sounds like a guy who spent a bunch of money making "Earley Era" hats and is still holding on to the hope he can sell them.
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Wattson Stumjack said:

Aggies2009 said:

That works both ways though.

We fired Sumlin because people wanted blood and that left us with the worst buyout in the history of sports and like an orange bowl win to show for it.

We fired Kennedy after he doubled our programs history of Sweet 16 appearances because people wanted blood and that left us with hefty bill for a couple second round appearances.

We fired Childress and got schloss who WAS an improvement, but was a couple of Omaha appearances worth the damage it will have done to our program?

We got rid of Evan's cause people wanted blood and she is setting records at her new stop while we can't get out of a regional or super regional while paying a lot of money for Ford.

People keep clamoring to fire coaches and that leaves us with expensive replacements who never really do much either.
This is terrible logic. The only one worth a damn is the first one. We essentially traded Sumlin for really expensive version of him.

Kennedy had parkinsons and only made the tourney twice in eight years. He was really bad when he didn't make the tourney. You don't keep that kind of coach around. Buzz was fine by our standards but overhyped and paid for what he actually accomplished.

Childress missed the tourney in his last year, and ****nagle made the the semis of the CWS his first year and took us the finals last year. As long as we fix the earley mistake, well early on, then it was worth it.

Evans was done and falling farther and farther back in the conference every year. She hadn't made it past regional round in several years when she was fired. Ford may have choked this year but she made supers last year and was a no 1 national seed this year. Evans just made the postseason at her new school this year. She didn't make it out of regional this year. I don't think she is setting records.

I agree the answer isn't always to moneywhip coaches but the answer it is sure isn't keeping around middling or declining coaches.

I mean other than ****nagle we've never hired a sitting a college baseball HC before. We always promoted assistants or from lower ranks. I think chandler was HS coach.

Our biggest problem is we don't view coaches as the mercenaries they are. We get attached to them and then get angry when people recognize they are not very good. If they had better options, they'd leave A&M in an instant for bigger guaranteed contract somewhere else.

I think a big problem with earley is no one can point to a real bright spot that says he will be a good coach anytime soon. Its more like we cannot fire him after one year or its too much money to fire him. That is the most depressing thing. No one really buys him being capable anytime soon.


I guess I just don't get it. We traded Sunlin for a more expensive Sumlin. One with the most embarrassing deal and buyout in the history of college football.

We traded Kennedy who was more feast/famine who had more postseason success. I was told many times here that we needed to get rid of Childress because making the tournament every year didn't mean much and we'd rather have a guy who goes to Omaha then misses the tournament the next year. That's kinda what Kennedy was.

We paid Buzz top 10 money to never finish higher than the top 32. And he only made the tournament 3 of the 6 years he was here with humiliating losses in 2 of those years. Kennedy won the SEC at least.

Schloss was an upgrade for sure. But was hiring a **** human being worth it? Look at our program now.

As far as Ford goes, who cares what seed we got? We got a #1 seed and finished with the same result that Evans did. We just made history in doing something no team had ever done along the way when it comes to losing.

Point I'm making is that we spent a lot of money to buy out/fire coaches to hire new ones. Only one actually panned out with improvements, and he left our program after 3 years, leaving us with the mess we have now.
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a.froman said:

Other then new blood what new pitching coach with a good resume is going to come to A&M for a coach with his head on the chopping block if he doesn't have a really good year in 2026?
Hopefully one that knows baseball.
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I know we need a lot of portal additions we need defensive catcher, OF, RHP.
That's just to start!
So coaching change isn't my priority.
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a.froman said:

Other then new blood what new pitching coach with a good resume is going to come to A&M for a coach with his head on the chopping block if he doesn't have a really good year in 2026?

Pitching coach is the last guy on the staff that I think needs replacement. Our pitching has been about the only thing going right for this team. He's not Weiner, but I have had zero qualms with Kelly
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Adam87inSA said:

CrocsAg20 said:

Brauny did a breakdown on pitching just yesterday. I'm not going to steal the whole post but here's how A&M ranks nationally

Walks Per 9 - 2nd
Strikeout to Walk Ratio - 3rd
WHIP - 14th
ERA - 29th
Shutouts - 30th (tied)
Hits Per 9 - 49th

Pitching hasn't been the problem.
Yep. Pitching is good enough for A&M to be a regional host, easily.

Our approach at the plate over the course of the season has been abysmal. Those numbers do not lie.

At a minimum, we need a new batting coach.

Our play in the field started off horrible. Cost us some games. It has improved greatly.
Dont think it is batting coach - I think Schloss was calling for a lot more takes to extend the pitching count and we completely abandoned the approach that got us to championship last year.
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This may be pushed away as a nonissue but it has had some affect. I'm not doing the research but there are very few teams that lose a Freshman All-American for the whole season and lose another Freshman All-American for 2/3 of a season and not feel that. That team also lost 2 pitchers that would 100% be counted on heavily all season. You have to feel that too. I know, next man up. But you don't just replace All-Americans and experience just because you say those words.

In no means am I saying this is the reason the team is in the situation it is in now. But you can't just gloss over the impact those injuries have had on this team. Going into the season if those 4 proven players were not on this team, we look at the roster differently as well as the expectations.

You also had several guys not perform as well as expected including a first round draft pick. There has to be a reason for that. Does that fall in the coaches lap? Maybe. The head coach is the same guy who was their hitting coach. Is it a cultural thing? Teams have to be player led, coach fed. Our last coach said this multiple times. As much as it may pain us to say, he is a master at setting the culture. So is there a leadership issue on this team?

There are so many things to point to. Yes, the end of the day you are what your record says it is. But there are stretches where a guy smokes 4 pitches for an out while the next guy goes 4-4 with all Texas leaguers. That doesn't mean the 0-4 doesn't know how to hit.

I have no idea what will happen. I am like many of you and are just dumbfounded. It is not that simple though. I would imagine there will be a conversation with Alberts at the end of the season. I would think how that goes will determine what the future of Aggie baseball will look like.
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Nope
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Aggies2009 said:

Wattson Stumjack said:

Aggies2009 said:

That works both ways though.

We fired Sumlin because people wanted blood and that left us with the worst buyout in the history of sports and like an orange bowl win to show for it.

We fired Kennedy after he doubled our programs history of Sweet 16 appearances because people wanted blood and that left us with hefty bill for a couple second round appearances.

We fired Childress and got schloss who WAS an improvement, but was a couple of Omaha appearances worth the damage it will have done to our program?

We got rid of Evan's cause people wanted blood and she is setting records at her new stop while we can't get out of a regional or super regional while paying a lot of money for Ford.

People keep clamoring to fire coaches and that leaves us with expensive replacements who never really do much either.
This is terrible logic. The only one worth a damn is the first one. We essentially traded Sumlin for really expensive version of him.

Kennedy had parkinsons and only made the tourney twice in eight years. He was really bad when he didn't make the tourney. You don't keep that kind of coach around. Buzz was fine by our standards but overhyped and paid for what he actually accomplished.

Childress missed the tourney in his last year, and ****nagle made the the semis of the CWS his first year and took us the finals last year. As long as we fix the earley mistake, well early on, then it was worth it.

Evans was done and falling farther and farther back in the conference every year. She hadn't made it past regional round in several years when she was fired. Ford may have choked this year but she made supers last year and was a no 1 national seed this year. Evans just made the postseason at her new school this year. She didn't make it out of regional this year. I don't think she is setting records.

I agree the answer isn't always to moneywhip coaches but the answer it is sure isn't keeping around middling or declining coaches.

I mean other than ****nagle we've never hired a sitting a college baseball HC before. We always promoted assistants or from lower ranks. I think chandler was HS coach.

Our biggest problem is we don't view coaches as the mercenaries they are. We get attached to them and then get angry when people recognize they are not very good. If they had better options, they'd leave A&M in an instant for bigger guaranteed contract somewhere else.

I think a big problem with earley is no one can point to a real bright spot that says he will be a good coach anytime soon. Its more like we cannot fire him after one year or its too much money to fire him. That is the most depressing thing. No one really buys him being capable anytime soon.


I guess I just don't get it. We traded Sunlin for a more expensive Sumlin.

We traded a coach who was more feast/famine who had more postseason success. I was told many times here that we needed to get rid of Childress because making the tournament every year didn't mean much and we'd rather have a guy who goes to Omaha then misses the tournament the next year. That's kinda what Kennedy was.

We paid Buzz top 10 money to never finish higher than the top 32. And he only made the tournament 3 of the 6 years he was here with humiliating losses in 2 of those years. Kennedy won the SEC at least.

Schloss was an upgrade for sure. But was hiring a **** human being worth it? Look at our program now.

As far as Ford goes, who cares what seed we got? We got a #1 seed and finished with the same result that Evans did. We just made history in doing something no team had ever done along the way when it comes to losing.

Point I'm making is that we spent a lot of money to buy out/fire coaches to hire new ones. Only one actually panned out with improvements, and he left our program after 3 years, leaving us with the mess we have now.


Point is that our athletic program as a whole has no idea how to handle coaches or contracts. They put us in bad positions
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levypantsEOY said:

dermdoc said:

No matter what happens tonight.


Sounds like a guy who spent a bunch of money making "Earley Era" hats and is still holding on to the hope he can sell them.
Got mine for free. But carry on.
tamc93
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Will you also accept Jeff Head as a pitching coach so we "learn" the strike zone?
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I mean what is the solution? Apparently retaining guys is bad. And firing guys to hire new ones hasn't panned out, demonstrably.
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tamc93 said:

Will you also accept Jeff Head as a pitching coach so we "learn" the strike zone?
Thanks. I laughed.

I need to make a tshirt that says "I know Jeff Head's strike zone".
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Can you also send him one?
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BBGigem said:

This may be pushed away as a nonissue but it has had some affect. I'm not doing the research but there are very few teams that lose a Freshman All-American for the whole season and lose another Freshman All-American for 2/3 of a season and not feel that. That team also lost 2 pitchers that would 100% be counted on heavily all season. You have to feel that too.


Personally I don't think you can count Sdao in any of the conversations about how much injuries affected us. He was hurt before last season even ended. We knew that when addressing the portal and picked up Patton who has been solid for us.

Maybe Sdao would have been a better option than Patton as our last starter, but I don't think we would have taken Patton if Sdao was healthy.
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tamc93 said:

Can you also send him one?
He would balk.
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DaAggies said:

BBGigem said:

This may be pushed away as a nonissue but it has had some affect. I'm not doing the research but there are very few teams that lose a Freshman All-American for the whole season and lose another Freshman All-American for 2/3 of a season and not feel that. That team also lost 2 pitchers that would 100% be counted on heavily all season. You have to feel that too.


Personally I don't think you can count Sdao in any of the conversations about how much injuries affected us. He was hurt before last season even ended. We knew that when addressing the portal and picked up Patton who has been solid for us.

Maybe Sdao would have been a better option than Patton as our last starter, but I don't think we would have taken Patton if Sdao was healthy.
I get that. Patton has been really good. To your point regarding pitching, there were some names we heard a lot about before and at the beginning of the season, that never panned out. Seems like there is some talent that just isn't showing up.
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AgDad121619 said:

Adam87inSA said:

CrocsAg20 said:

Brauny did a breakdown on pitching just yesterday. I'm not going to steal the whole post but here's how A&M ranks nationally

Walks Per 9 - 2nd
Strikeout to Walk Ratio - 3rd
WHIP - 14th
ERA - 29th
Shutouts - 30th (tied)
Hits Per 9 - 49th

Pitching hasn't been the problem.
Yep. Pitching is good enough for A&M to be a regional host, easily.

Our approach at the plate over the course of the season has been abysmal. Those numbers do not lie.

At a minimum, we need a new batting coach.

Our play in the field started off horrible. Cost us some games. It has improved greatly.
Dont think it is batting coach - I think Schloss was calling for a lot more takes to extend the pitching count and we completely abandoned the approach that got us to championship last year.

I agree that we are missing that approach this year, but beyond that this team as a whole appears to struggle more with pitch recognition and expanding the zone.

The players likely have some blame, but I have a hard time believing that coaching isn't more at play there. There's something going wrong and it isn't just a player or two.
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dermdoc said:

tamc93 said:

Can you also send him one?
He would balk.


Perhaps…another Jeff Head clarification tshirt list. Kind of like a top 10 list of his "interpretations"
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BBGigem said:

DaAggies said:

BBGigem said:

This may be pushed away as a nonissue but it has had some affect. I'm not doing the research but there are very few teams that lose a Freshman All-American for the whole season and lose another Freshman All-American for 2/3 of a season and not feel that. That team also lost 2 pitchers that would 100% be counted on heavily all season. You have to feel that too.


Personally I don't think you can count Sdao in any of the conversations about how much injuries affected us. He was hurt before last season even ended. We knew that when addressing the portal and picked up Patton who has been solid for us.

Maybe Sdao would have been a better option than Patton as our last starter, but I don't think we would have taken Patton if Sdao was healthy.
I get that. Patton has been really good. To your point regarding pitching, there were some names we heard a lot about before and at the beginning of the season, that never panned out. Seems like there is some talent that just isn't showing up.

That's true, there were some expected names that didn't exactly pull through this season.

I do want to highlight some of the work Kelly has done with guys like Moss, Wilson, Lyons and McCoy. There have been some pleasant surprises in the group.
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There have been implied statements we will lose players in the portal if we keep him or not. Kendall said that during a radio spot with TexAgs. Anyone have anything on this? I've seen a post or two saying the pitchers aren't happy but I would think the poor offensive output may put some hitters in the portal.
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dermdoc said:

tamc93 said:

Will you also accept Jeff Head as a pitching coach so we "learn" the strike zone?
Thanks. I laughed.

I need to make a tshirt that says "I know Jeff Head's strike zone".


But can you count like he does?
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We're going to lose and gain players from the portal whether we fire Earley or not. Just the way it is these days. My concern is future recruiting.
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trouble said:

dermdoc said:

tamc93 said:

Will you also accept Jeff Head as a pitching coach so we "learn" the strike zone?
Thanks. I laughed.

I need to make a tshirt that says "I know Jeff Head's strike zone".


But can you count like he does?
How does that even happen? Seriously? It is one thing to miss balls and strikes but that would be malpractice in my business.
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Going from preseason #1 to barely over .500 could happen to anyone. Couldn't it? In theory and all.
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We have the #6 ERA in the SEC at 4.30 just a bit behind Arkansas at 4.12. But we are batting .261 which is last in the conference. And people want to change pitching coaches? Without a doubt our struggle this year has been hitting. We scored 2 runs against Missouri in 2 games. Pitching isn't an issue and if you want to talk about continued improvement we should be in good shape with pitching.

We need help with hitting. Earley needs to take over hitting himself, or back off completely and let Longley have full control or give full control to a new hitting coach. Something is way off. Hitting is the issue. I don't know if they are giving mixed signals to batters or what but our hitting approach is dreadful.


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Can you even imagine? License revoked!
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Anyone who thinks our admin and BMA's are serious about winning need not look further than the left field wall at Olsen. 17 years of mediocrity and you're rewarded with your jersey retired.
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AgDad121619 said:

Adam87inSA said:

CrocsAg20 said:

Brauny did a breakdown on pitching just yesterday. I'm not going to steal the whole post but here's how A&M ranks nationally

Walks Per 9 - 2nd
Strikeout to Walk Ratio - 3rd
WHIP - 14th
ERA - 29th
Shutouts - 30th (tied)
Hits Per 9 - 49th

Pitching hasn't been the problem.
Yep. Pitching is good enough for A&M to be a regional host, easily.

Our approach at the plate over the course of the season has been abysmal. Those numbers do not lie.

At a minimum, we need a new batting coach.

Our play in the field started off horrible. Cost us some games. It has improved greatly.
Dont think it is batting coach - I think Schloss was calling for a lot more takes to extend the pitching count and we completely abandoned the approach that got us to championship last year.
It is absolutely the hitting coach and it has nothing to do with Schloss having us take pitches.
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The theme of this thread is the main reason we continue to underachieve in athletics. Sad really.
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We have 2-3 first round draft picks that want him to stay. Gavin and Sorrel for sure. We have a couple of new players already committed for next season.

The second thing it looks like we tried to give him a chance to win to another coach that we would be bringing in.
Just an old dad who raise 3 Ags. Inherited 2 more. GIG’EM
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chick79 said:

The theme of this thread is the main reason we continue to underachieve in athletics. Sad really.
I value your opinion. We will agree to disagree.

BTHO LSU!
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I do derm. We scored 10 or so runs in the ninth to win at home. It's baseball sometimes stuff happens.
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