Wabs said:

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What did he do to deserve another year?

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Nothing apparently

But what I gather is he will be loyal to us in a few years when he's showing greatness that interesting enough was absent this year.

Bin him

Keep Earley or not here's my conversation with him if I'm AD.

• How are you going to fix the defensive issues? Bunt defense, outfield relays, covering 1B, etc.
• You are a hitting coach by specialty and we were in last place in the SEC in batting average.
• (Some assumptions here but to me this was an issue). You know that you can't be a players best friend and their HC at the same time. It's better to be a hard ass and then soften the approach as necessary than it is to be everybody's friend and then try and be a hard ass.

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LB12Diamond said:

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I agree with you. That's not the card to play. My response above though is the card to play. But both mine and his responses only occurred bc someone is trying to say his was loyal and it's the reason not to fire him. And that's not the case as I pointed out.

No one posted that picture of him in the Texas uniform on this thread until someone stated keep him bc he's loyal.

Here's the only reason to keep him or fire him. Do you or do you not think he's a top level SEC caliber head coach. That's it.

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So you don't think Earley has any loyalty to us? I in fact do believe he has some loyalty.

And to answer your question about weather or not hell be a goodSEC coach.....yesI do. He's proven he can beat some of the best teams.in the nation, and do it on the road. Now he had some bad, bad losses, and he'll learn from that.

Show me a.1st year head coach.......in the SEC who had a better 1st year. You might find a couple out 9f the hundreds.

Give him the time.

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Finally some real discussion.

Well you see, I grade a coach more on what they do when they play average or bad teams. And he failed in spades on that one. Saban says the most important area of coaching is having your team ready when they think they are better than the competition.

Theres a lot more to it than that one. But its already been hashed out a ton on this sight. And I think the only way he is back is if we get zero interest from experienced coaches. I just don't see that taking place.

You give him credit for those wins but he also gets to take the losses. A talented team that isn't consistent and plays without fundamentals is a direct reflection of coaching.

This isn't that hard of a decision.

Killzone3abc said:

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They are different jobs. They aren't different careers. Working your way up from associate engineer to team lead to director of engineering doesn't involve changing careers.

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Engineering and managing are not the same career.

85AustinAg said:

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Keep Earley or not here's my conversation with him if I'm AD.

• How are you going to fix the defensive issues? Bunt defense, outfield relays, covering 1B, etc.
• You are a hitting coach by specialty and we were in last place in the SEC in batting average.
• (Some assumptions here but to me this was an issue). You know that you can't be a players best friend and their HC at the same time. It's better to be a hard ass and then soften the approach as necessary than it is to be everybody's friend and then try and be a hard ass.

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Actions over words. Apparently he said the right things last summer to get the job. More likely Trev heard what he wanted to hear.

So I'm sure he could say the right things this summer as well.

And then we all can watch the lack of fundamentals, no leadership and putting in a pinch hitter on a 1-1 count all over again next season.

I doubt Trev is going to have much discussion with him. But if he does. He should show him his interview after the Mizzou series. And ask him, why do you think you deserve to keep this job? You said after the SEC tournament the team showed growth all season. Yet here you state you are not able to get them to perform in the second to last series. These appear to be mixed signals.

"Next year won't be my first rodeo."
-Earley

TexasRebel said:

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"Next year won't be my first rodeo."
-Earley

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"I'm built for this!"

The testimony from Jace during the LSU post game interview spoke volumes and sealed it for me. Every coach deserves more than 1 year to build their program. That is the boilerplate in sports. I believe Earley has the baseball rsum to improve on the 2025 A&M team and should have the chance to do it. I enjoy reading the responses by posters in this forum. Most are knowledgeable, good in articulating an argument, firm in their beliefs, plus I learn a few things. Unfortunately, if Trev Alberts, et al, utilized the posters on TexAgs in the decision-making process, we'd be hiring new head coaches every year. MHO

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

LB12Diamond said:

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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

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Texas A&M keeps on getting fooled perpetually in coaching hires.

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Show me a.1st year head coach.......in the SEC who had a better 1st year. You might find a couple out 9f the hundreds.

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Chris Lemonis went to the CWS with MIssissippi State in his first season.
Rob Vaughn went to a regional in his first season at Alabama.
Vitello won more games in the SEC in his first season at Tennessee.
Biano won 17 games and went to a regional in his first season at Ole Miss.
Corbin was 2nd in the East and won 14 SEC games in his first year at Vanderbilt.
Steve Bieser, the prior coach of Missouri, won more SEC games than we did in his first 2 seasons there
Mark Kingston, the prior coach at South Carolina went to a super regional in his first season
Chad Holbrook, the coach that preceded Kingston at South Carolina, also went to a super regional
O'Sullivan won 17 SEC games and went to a regional in his first season at Florida
Van Horn went to a regional in his first season at Arkansas
Jay Johnson won 17 games and went to a regional in his first season at LSU
Mainieri won one more game that we did in his first season at LSU
Wes Johnson went to a super regional in his first season at Georgia
Mingione went to a super regional in his first season at Kentucky

If the argument was only for guys who are in their first head coaching role, Johnson and Mingione both fit that description, although Johnson has been coaching since 1997 and Mingione since 2002.

Edit-- And Childress won 13 games and went to a regional in our first season in the SEC, a year after Wacha and Stripling went pro plus only having Jace Statum and Cole Lankford return to the 1-9 lineup as a player with significant prior year experience (and each of them had less that 50 at bats in 2012).

Cen-Tex said:

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Unfortunately, if Trev Alberts, et al, utilized the posters on TexAgs in the decision-making process, we'd be hiring new head coaches every year. MHO

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This is simply not true. The situation with baseball is unique. There was not a large consensus of posters calling for Elko to be fired after year 1, even though it ended disappointing. Now if Elko had inherited a team that played for the natty the year before and went 5-7 and no bowl game you might have seen calls for his firing. That is the equivalent of what Earley has managed to do.

Earley seems like a great guy. But he is clearly in over his head. He is not ready to be a Head Coach at this level.

And I don't think I see much behind the loyalty argument.

He saw a chance to from an assistant coach to making a guaranteed 4 million dollars. He didn't come back to coach at a major discount.

Lance Uppercut said:

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And I don't think I see much behind the loyalty argument.

He saw a chance to from an assistant coach to making a guaranteed 4 million dollars. He didn't come back to coach at a major discount.

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This. Aggies' blind spot the mercenary nature of the coaching profession is why we end up doing stupid things in relation to our coaches in terms of contracts and being blindsided when they dart for the next opportunity.

The argument about firing earley after only one year would hold weight it if wasn't a desperation hire because the program got blindsided and screwed by ****nagle and tu.

It wasn't a normal hire. It was a hire under duress and given how awful it turned out to be, normal rules don't apply.

Everyone wants to keep him because its too soon or too much money. I don't see many people making case that he is really going to get better as a HC anytime soon.

It's been pointed out Vitello was 12-18 at UT his first season
It is not unheard of for first year managers to get better at their job

That means you're onboard for year two! Awesome LB<>!

Sq 17 said:

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It's been pointed out Vitello was 12-18 at UT his first season
It is not unheard of for first year managers to get better at their job

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Vitello took over a program that hadn't been to the postseason or had a .500 record or above in conference in over 10 years and who was 7-21 in the SEC the prior season.

That wasn't remotely similar to Earley's situation.

No one asked you for logic.

It's also been pointed out that Vitello inherited the makings of a middling JV high school team, not a team with multiple All Americans.

Yes, I expect Earley to get better. I actually expect him to be pretty good with time. But what I saw this year makes me think he's at least 4-6 years away from being ready, not 20 games away.

I feel bad because I like him and feel like I'm piling on but the irrational sunshine and roses seems even more irrational to me. If nothing else you'd expect an assistant elevated to HC to have his team showing good fundamentals and then maybe he screws up in game big decisions because he's never had to make them before. But this team never once showed good fundamentals. Overall poor defense, bad situational awareness, and all of the flummoxing in game decisions I would expect from a first year head coach to boot.

I think he needs a stretch at a Horizon or Sun Belt school. Learning on the job in the SEC can be suicide inducing.

Its pretty superficial to compare vitello vs earley first seasons. It also shows you haven't been following college baseball much or just general ncaa changes since then.

I mean, I think it's fine to compare but you have to acknowledge the differences as well.

MLB posted that video of Jace saying he wants to win and he'd run through a brick wall for Earley.

I wonder if that kind of thing works in Earley's favor.

Gah, I'm tired of the suspense.

nothingbutlove said:

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MLB posted that video of Jace saying he wants to win and he'd run through a brick wall for Earley.

I wonder if that kind of thing works in Earley's favor.

Gah, I'm tired of the suspense.

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Maybe he can convince whichever farm team he's on to hire him

LB12Diamond said:

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Loyalty?

That would have been Schloss staying. Not Earley. This applies only if it's the same level of job. Not being promoted from an assistant to the head guy.

He stayed bc he did not want to uproot his family from CS and go to Austin. He stayed bc he got a hefty raise. Both great reasons, but not loyalty.

Loyalty would have been us hiring Vaughn as head coach and Earley staying here as the hitting coach. Which some posters actually recommended last year.

Let's say we hire a new coach. If Earley stays on as assistant and gives some of his contract back. Then we can says he's loyal to A&M. TBD in the next few weeks.

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If we couldn't get Vitello last summer I wanted Vaughn with Earley as the Asst HC too.

85AustinAg said:

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Keep Earley or not here's my conversation with him if I'm AD.

• How are you going to fix the defensive issues? Bunt defense, outfield relays, covering 1B, etc.
• You are a hitting coach by specialty and we were in last place in the SEC in batting average.
• (Some assumptions here but to me this was an issue). You know that you can't be a players best friend and their HC at the same time. It's better to be a hard ass and then soften the approach as necessary than it is to be everybody's friend and then try and be a hard ass.

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This is reasonable if Earley stays.

The question is will the AD say that and will Earley do that. What Earley did this year won't work.

Earley grabbed the brass ring extended to him out of desperation, immediacy, and baseless optimism about his HC skill. It was a great deal for him from day one. For the AD and fans, season one was a train wreck.

Firing Earley is easy, but replacing him with an experienced, successful successor is a large challenge. I don't know if the decision makers are willing to spend the money necessary to aggressively strive for excellence now, or if they would rather roll the dice and hope for a different outcome.

The questions I would have for the decision makers are the following:

1) What type of recruiting momentum will he realistically be able to achieve based on his results this year with an absolutely stacked roster?

2) other than purely for money, what's the sell to bring in portal guys, and how much money will be committed to him being able to spend anyway based on this year's lack of results?

3) As a follow up, say we can match offers for top transfers... Why would those guys trust Earley and our staff after this year? Our top draft prospects all saw their value drop this year.

It's a complete loser of a situation. We've got a perfect opportunity to hit the reset button after just 1 year. Those opportunities do not happen often.

Take advantage of it and do it.

sharpdressedman said:

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Firing Earley is easy, but replacing him with an experienced, successful successor is a large challenge. I don't know if the decision makers are willing to spend the money necessary to aggressively strive for excellence now, or if they would rather roll the dice and hope for a different outcome.

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I hope this is why we've heard nothing so far. Because we're lining up a hire before we create an opening.

We haven't heard anything probably because technically the season isn't over until the selection committee decides who's in.

Baseball coaches who bat the school's all-time home run leader as the leadoff hitter for even ONE FRIGGIN GAME cannot coach a team to a championship in D1 baseball league games, little league, senior league, NBC league, frontier league, Mexican professional baseball, AA/AAA......but maybe peewee.

Let's listen to some of the learning challenged posts about keeping this person who repeatedly on interviews has NO PLAN for fixing anything and no plan to keep players from transferring except for patting them on the back when they are getting emotional about losing while ending their college careers.
We keep this coach who had 3 starting pitchers that were equal to or better than last year's CWS finalist team and couldn't win with them, we'll be doing the norm for Aggies.
We'll be digging ourselves a deeper hole to be the laughing-butt-of jokes in this state, as we lose more games having ignorance be our guide and not good coaching.

Although leaving for a disgusting cesspool like what the t.u. campus' city has become so that he can marry his lifestyle with that of his closest booty buddy's is not the sign of a great ambassador for a university athletic leader, at least Schlong-an-aggle already knows how to coach baseball. No one I know can even buy the line on any sports bet involving A&M's sports, because the coaching in all major sports cannot possibly be that dumb anywhere. Send DOGE to BCS to figure out who is getting part of Dumbo's salary and this guy's salary when he is fired from his next "guaranteed contract". What sense does it make to "let's give this guy one more year"? Does that make any sense???NO. - Because space cadets, if he has the same coaching success next season and you wait until the end of the year next year to fire him.......OMG - do I have to continue to spell that scenario out? You plan on him only staying two seasons ANYWAY!
If everyone wanting a young losing coach back feels that he should be given more time, then by all means do not stop at "another year"......no........GIVE HIM A TEN YEAR GUARANTEED CONTRACT FOR 1/10 of a BILLION DOLLARS.

Please ban me if this is not correct. This much idiocy has got to be chatgpt and not real posting anyway. Just like the odds on people being paid to play a sport means that these same contractors would never make a penny on sports game outcomes.
No one is this dumb.
Missouri loves aggieland. Against all other teams they ended up to be zero and twenty eight. (0Wins 28Losses) but they won 3 in Aggieland. Nothing to see there, just move along.
Missouri when playing the Aggies for 3 days was about ten runs better than the top ranked longhorns because even though no one would bet against the Aggies taking at least one game at home out of three, they lost by blowouts in BCS at their home park but in Austin, the Aggies lost by one run on each of three games.......that is either coaching or coaching.

Or because there's no reason for an announcement that you aren't firing someone.

I bet there's discussions happening with coaches behind the scenes right now.

Doesn't mean we're going to make a change but I think the AD would've leaked to the media by now that they were committed to bringing him back next season if that's what they were dead set on doing.

I imagine if they like what they're hearing they would probably pull the trigger on moving on from him Monday night or Tuesday morning after the regionals come out and the season is officially done.

Please tell us how you're really feeling