quote:Not even the sips?
Jealous isn't the word I'd use. I think other teams in TX want to beat us worse than anyone else. We hit a nerve with non Aggies that other teams don't.
quote:And this is why A&M will always be a baron in sports, while other programs make it higher up the food chain.
I 100% sincerely believe that a chance for greatness isn't worth putting very good on the line. If we're winning 45 games/yr, I say leave it alone. You're going home from the games happy a vast majority of the time. Baseball more than any sport is about the journey, not the destination.
quote:Except it's a little more than just "supers in 5 out of 11 years". We've hosted exactly ONE super, and lost it. The other 4 supers have been at other venues, and we've managed to only win 1 of those 5 (and it could be argued we played over our head to do so). .200, even in baseball, isn't that great of a number.
Super regionals 5 out of 11 years is nothing to sneeze at. Nobody's saying that just sneaking into the playoff field every year is the qualifier for success.
quote:quote:Not even the sips?
Jealous isn't the word I'd use. I think other teams in TX want to beat us worse than anyone else. We hit a nerve with non Aggies that other teams don't.
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In the eyes of every little brother school, the sips are king and the rest of us should get in line behind them. We never accepted that and became a flagship right along side them. We bucked the system, succeeded, and now they're all petty and jealous. This goes back way before the move to the SEC.
quote:I agree that other Texas schools have a extra incentive when they play the A&M, I don't think it is above and beyond that when they play t.u. I also don't think RC is unaware of this dynamic.quote:quote:Not even the sips?
Jealous isn't the word I'd use. I think other teams in TX want to beat us worse than anyone else. We hit a nerve with non Aggies that other teams don't.
From a post on OR today, this is a good explanation of what I'm taking about:quote:
In the eyes of every little brother school, the sips are king and the rest of us should get in line behind them. We never accepted that and became a flagship right along side them. We bucked the system, succeeded, and now they're all petty and jealous. This goes back way before the move to the SEC.
Yes I realize the person used the word jealous in that when I said it isn't the word I'd use, but it explains the point.
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The problem with Childtrss is his teams fall apart at the end of every year. His overall record is good but is teams fade at the end of the year do we really want that?
quote:I suggest that the losses to Rice in RC's second and third season at the helm had to do with him facing a legendary still at the top of his game coach with over 25 years as college head coach, in his 16th/17th at Rice.
I think he's unaware of how to counter it, suggested by his record vs in state teams
quote:Not sure how it doesn't compute - it's the entire reason for the proverb "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush". Some folks are risk takers, but with the potential bonanza you also have a pretty equal probability of a bust. Obviously I'm not big on taking risks and like what we have and I'm also one who has turned town job offers for increased salary because I'm good with where I am. Yes, I could make more but the increased pay isn't worth the risk or lost time with family and we want for nothing as it is.
This mentality just doesn't compute with me - it's like turning down a job offer that could potentially be a bonanza simply because you make enough now to cover the bills and you don't want to take a chance. I just don't get it. Obviously some do, which is why we are always mentioned as a "dark horse" or a school that "should have, could have, would have...were it not for some event....".
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What would we be risking, exactly? Most any competent baseball coach would have us in the post season every year.
quote:I completely agree. You're irrelevant if you're not in Omaha more than once in 11 years.
What would we be risking, exactly? Most any competent baseball coach would have us in the post season every year.
quote:A cry/laugh with no response. Par for the course.quote:
What would we be risking, exactly? Most any competent baseball coach would have us in the post season every year.
You should probably just stop now.
quote:To accept this notion youu have to believe there is less than a handful of schools with the advantages of A&M or that many schools have hired less than competent baseball coachs.
What would we be risking, exactly? Most any competent baseball coach would have us in the post season every year.
quote:Fair enough., although most of the yeats of the streak the Aggies did more than just make the postseason.
I don't honestly put much value on just making the post season.
quote:As Lance has already pointed out, you're shifting your argument. As for your question, I would love if A&M could put together a streak like Miami, making the postseason every year with a bunch of trips to Omaha to show for it. Like you I'm not satisfied with making the postseason with only one trip to Omaha. Unlike you I'm not willing to dismiss the postseason streak as something due entirely to the advantages A&M may have over other schools in the hands of a merely competent coach. If you believe RC should have done more with the advantages that being a coach at A&M gives him, fine.
The post season streak is nice, but would you rather have the post season streak with no Omaha trips, or the occasional Omaha trip?
quote:It might be shifting, but the point I can see has remained steady.quote:As Lance has already pointed out, you're shifting your argument.
The post season streak is nice, but would you rather have the post season streak with no Omaha trips, or the occasional Omaha trip?
quote:I understand, if he would stick to this he would get few responses to his posts from me. I respect this argument, what I'm responding to is the numerous, shifting and even contradictory reasons why he believes RC has been unable to get the Aggies to Omaha on a regular basis.quote:It might be shifting, but the point I can see has remained steady.quote:As Lance has already pointed out, you're shifting your argument.
The post season streak is nice, but would you rather have the post season streak with no Omaha trips, or the occasional Omaha trip?
Its about Omaha for Rocco. Plain and simple.
quote:quote:I understand, if he would stick to this he would get few responses to his posts from me. I respect this argument, what I'm responding to is the numerous, shifting and even contradictory reasons why he believes RC has been unable to get the Aggies to Omaha on a regular basis.quote:It might be shifting, but the point I can see has remained steady.quote:As Lance has already pointed out, you're shifting your argument.
The post season streak is nice, but would you rather have the post season streak with no Omaha trips, or the occasional Omaha trip?
Its about Omaha for Rocco. Plain and simple.
quote:We've lost to more TX teams than we have non TX teams in the post season, but you're missing the point. When we were in the b12, there were 3 possible road or home match ups for us against TX teams, Rice, UH, and TCU. Now that we are in the SEC, there are still those three, along with TT, Baylor, and tu. So our path to Omaha is almost always if not always going to go through TX teams. That's why I have made the point about our record vs TX teams in the post season.
Rocco, seriously, listen to me. I've been trying to help you out...
Rob Childress has lost to his fair share of out of state teams in the post-season, too. I listed some of them a few days back.
You're making life so much harder on yourself than it needs to be.
quote:This is all that really matters. We were told he needed new facilities. Then he needed time to recruit with them. Then it was adjust to the SEC. So the shifting and goal post moving really lies with the other side of the table.quote:quote:I understand, if he would stick to this he would get few responses to his posts from me. I respect this argument, what I'm responding to is the numerous, shifting and even contradictory reasons why he believes RC has been unable to get the Aggies to Omaha on a regular basis.quote:It might be shifting, but the point I can see has remained steady.quote:As Lance has already pointed out, you're shifting your argument.
The post season streak is nice, but would you rather have the post season streak with no Omaha trips, or the occasional Omaha trip?
Its about Omaha for Rocco. Plain and simple.
I have no idea why RC has been unable to get us to Omaha very much
In just know that he hasn't
quote:Find were I ever said this. Olsen needed upgrades but was still a good college venue.
We were told he needed new facilities.
quote:I stated he deserved time recruiting with the upgrades because he was a major factor in getting the project done quickly instead of in a piecemeal fashion.
Then he needed time to recruit with them
quote:Hasn't he done so?
Then it was adjust to the SEC.
quote:The point goes over your head again.
So what you're saying is:
We've lost all of the games that we've lost.
quote:The other side of the table doesn't = you. It's things we've heard from his defenders.quote:Find were I ever said this. Olsen needed upgrades but was still a good college venue.
We were told he needed new facilities.quote:I stated he deserved time recruiting with the upgrades because he was a major factor in getting the project done quickly instead of in a piecemeal fashion.
Then he needed time to recruit with themquote:Hasn't he done so?
Then it was adjust to the SEC.
quote:Well, we've probably had occasion to play, and lose to, more quality Texas teams then quality non-Texas teams. That said, there is no reason to fight me on this. See below.quote:We've lost to more TX teams than we have non TX teams in the post season, but you're missing the point. When we were in the b12, there were 3 possible road or home match ups for us against TX teams, Rice, UH, and TCU. Now that we are in the SEC, there are still those three, along with TT, Baylor, and tu. So our path to Omaha is almost always if not always going to go through TX teams. That's why I have made the point about our record vs TX teams in the post season.
Rocco, seriously, listen to me. I've been trying to help you out...
Rob Childress has lost to his fair share of out of state teams in the post-season, too. I listed some of them a few days back.
You're making life so much harder on yourself than it needs to be.
