scd88 said:

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Correa isn't waiving his no trade to leave here, no?

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I think he meant parades

EastCoastAgNc said:

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scd88 said:

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Correa isn't waiving his no trade to leave here, no?

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I think he meant parades

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Oh gotcha. Thanks.

Houston Astros interviewing World Series architect Mike Rizzo for open GM job
https://t.co/jghLc6RrTp

— Bob Nightengale (@BNightengale) October 26, 2026

This would be disgusting

tjack16 said:

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Don't like this.

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Agree. Hard pass.

Farmer1906 said:

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scd88 said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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scd88 said:

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Correa isn't waiving his no trade to leave here, no?

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I think he meant parades

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Oh gotcha. Thanks.

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Actually Pena. My bad.

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I was confused, lol.

Another topic Rome broached was the catcher position's future. Yainer is a below-average defender and a very streaky hitter. However, the offense is more good than bad. He finished as a top-10 hitter catcher, 115 wRC+. Do they put Yainer on the market to make room for Jason Schiavone? Is the 23-year-old ready to make the jump after his breakout 2026?

Who is Jason Schiavone? Only the kid who just put up a 32-32 season across A, AA, and AAA. And when you jump into the nerdy stuff, it looks real, with a few issues.

Statcast Contact & Power Metrics
Schiavone possesses what scouts view as 80-grade raw power, regularly registering top-tier exit velocities.

Metric Value Percentile / Notes

• Average Exit Velocity 91.8 mph Top 4% (96th percentile)
• 90th Percentile EV 105.1 mph 80th percentile
• Maximum Exit Velocity 109.1 mph High-end raw power
• Barrel % 13.3% Top 5% (95th percentile)
• Sweet-Spot % 46.7% 84th percentile
• xwOBA (Expected wOBA) .350 86th percentile

Batted Ball Profile & Plate Discipline
Schiavone pairs his loud contact with an optimal launch angle to consistently elevate the ball, though his profile is defined by extreme passivity in the zone mixed with hefty swing-and-miss tendencies.

Metric Value Scouting Context

• Launch Angle Sweet-Spot 26.7% Low percentile; highly optimized for lift
• O-Swing % (Chase Rate) 10.8% 100th percentile (Elite plate discipline/selective eye)
• Z-Swing % (Zone Swing Rate) 66.2% Below average; passive on strikes
• Whiff % 28.6% High swing-and-miss against all pitch types
• Z-Contact % (Zone Contact) 77.5% Explains the high minor league strikeout rate
• PullAir % 11.8% Pulls fly balls with authority

By trading Yainer, the team will save a few dollars (room to sign players of need) and gains more prospects to continue to rebuild the farm. If Schiavone is legit, then we continue to have the possibility of competing now and still building for the future.

Houston has to move at least one infielder. The outfield had a combined WAR of 0.1 this year. Woof. Altuve was the definition of league average with a 0.0 WAR. You can't have your positive WAR guys sitting the bench- and you only have 4 lineup slots among Pena, Paredes, Walker, Correa, and Alvarez. I guess you could mitigate injury risk by keeping them all, but that's not the best use of your payroll and a luxury the Astros don't have with the OF wasteland.

Throw Peña's contract status on top of that, and I think he's the valuable trade chip. Get some OF talent or another SS, whichever offsets the open market possibilities. A Walker trade would just be to make space for Paredes at first, not payroll relief (since Houston would have to chip in money) or talent swap. So, I think it's Peña or Pena + Walker, but not Walker alone.

Wabs said:

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I wouldn't mind at all moving on from Yainer, especially if a team is willing to give a couple of decent prospects. Even though he kind of pulled it together the last half of the season, he has been a very frustrating player to watch - offensively and defensively.

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I think this is as high as Yainer's value will be unless MLB juices the ball again.

The question is do you flip Parades and send money and Walker away and teach Yainer to play 1B? Is he good enough offensively to put him there?

I'd trade Pena, HB, Yainer and Walker. Should get decent returns here and dump Walker the anchor.

Just spit-balling, but I'd look to sign Arozarena, Gallen, and see what we could do to get Dubon back to play SS. Maybe look at Jeffers as an option at catcher.

Please no on Rizzo.

Wabs said:

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I'd trade Pena, HB, Yainer and Walker. Should get decent returns here and dump Walker the anchor.

Just spit-balling, but I'd look to sign Arozarena, Gallen, and see what we could do to get Dubon back to play SS. Maybe look at Jeffers as an option at catcher.

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Arozarena seems to always step up against the Astros but I read somewhere that Mariner fans are happy to see him gone due to defensive liabilities.

BCEDAg said:

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Wabs said:

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I'd trade Pena, HB, Yainer and Walker. Should get decent returns here and dump Walker the anchor.

Just spit-balling, but I'd look to sign Arozarena, Gallen, and see what we could do to get Dubon back to play SS. Maybe look at Jeffers as an option at catcher.

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Arozarena seems to always step up against the Astros but I read somewhere that Mariner fans are happy to see him gone due to defensive liabilities.

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Bad fielder, but one of the best offensive players in the league this year. He was their offense last season. They're going to miss him a ton.

Wabs said:

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I'd trade Pena, HB, Yainer and Walker. Should get decent returns here and dump Walker the anchor.

Just spit-balling, but I'd look to sign Arozarena, Gallen, and see what we could do to get Dubon back to play SS. Maybe look at Jeffers as an option at catcher.

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I think HB would be too much to overcome and be able to compete. We'd need to go sign Skubal, not Gallen.

I do agree that radical changes need to be made.

Farmer1906 said:

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Wabs said:

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I'd trade Pena, HB, Yainer and Walker. Should get decent returns here and dump Walker the anchor.

Just spit-balling, but I'd look to sign Arozarena, Gallen, and see what we could do to get Dubon back to play SS. Maybe look at Jeffers as an option at catcher.

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I think HB would be too much to overcome and be able to compete. We'd need to go sign Skubal, not Gallen.

I do agree that radical changes need to be made.

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I am willing to go through a couple of bad years if what we get for Brown is worth it. I just think it is senseless to let he and Pena leave without getting more than a compensatory draft pick for them. Since they are both Boras clients, we are VERY unlikely to re-sign them in FA, so if we can't get them extended, we should be getting whatever we can for them.

Farmer1906 said:

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BCEDAg said:

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Wabs said:

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I'd trade Pena, HB, Yainer and Walker. Should get decent returns here and dump Walker the anchor.

Just spit-balling, but I'd look to sign Arozarena, Gallen, and see what we could do to get Dubon back to play SS. Maybe look at Jeffers as an option at catcher.

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Arozarena seems to always step up against the Astros but I read somewhere that Mariner fans are happy to see him gone due to defensive liabilities.

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Bad fielder, but one of the best offensive players in the league this year. He was their offense last season. They're going to miss him a ton.

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Agree that he's an offensive weapon. He'd be perfect for jacking home runs into the Crawford Boxes. Does that outweigh his defensive problems?

txags92 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Wabs said:

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I'd trade Pena, HB, Yainer and Walker. Should get decent returns here and dump Walker the anchor.

Just spit-balling, but I'd look to sign Arozarena, Gallen, and see what we could do to get Dubon back to play SS. Maybe look at Jeffers as an option at catcher.

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I think HB would be too much to overcome and be able to compete. We'd need to go sign Skubal, not Gallen.

I do agree that radical changes need to be made.

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I am willing to go through a couple of bad years if what we get for Brown is worth it. I just think it is senseless to let he and Pena leave without getting more than a compensatory draft pick for them. Since they are both Boras clients, we are VERY unlikely to re-sign them in FA, so if we can't get them extended, we should be getting whatever we can for them.

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I get that, then it's probably not worth spending money on Dubon and Gallen. If things fall right and we find someone who can walk a very fine line, we may be able to complete and rebuild. It'll be very challenging tho.

With a reload mindset, I think a year like the Guardians had would be the stretch goal for the Astros at this point. Sneak into the postseason and pray for a hot streak.

(And for the record, I hate that strategy with a burning passion)

Tags just gave me a heart attack

Bonnettecj1 said:

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linkdude said:

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Tags just gave me a heart attack

Source: Mike Rizzo, the former Nationals GM, is in Houston interviewing for the GM job with the Astros, confirming @BNightengale report.

— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) October 27, 2026

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We all know what's about to happen. This is Bagwell's guy, I have no doubt.

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Bagwell's last guy was Ausmus, and he didn't get the job.

Someone explain Rizzo (don't know much about him besides the Soto trade - assuming that was him?)

Farmer1906 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Wabs said:

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I'd trade Pena, HB, Yainer and Walker. Should get decent returns here and dump Walker the anchor.

Just spit-balling, but I'd look to sign Arozarena, Gallen, and see what we could do to get Dubon back to play SS. Maybe look at Jeffers as an option at catcher.

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I think HB would be too much to overcome and be able to compete. We'd need to go sign Skubal, not Gallen.

I do agree that radical changes need to be made.

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I am willing to go through a couple of bad years if what we get for Brown is worth it. I just think it is senseless to let he and Pena leave without getting more than a compensatory draft pick for them. Since they are both Boras clients, we are VERY unlikely to re-sign them in FA, so if we can't get them extended, we should be getting whatever we can for them.

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I get that, then it's probably not worth spending money on Dubon and Gallen. If things fall right and we find someone who can walk a very fine line, we may be able to complete and rebuild. It'll be very challenging tho.

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It is definitely a fine line to tread. I don't necessarily want to do a complete tear down and rebuild. But somebody has to play SS and we would need to get pitching to replace HB if we traded him. I am not sure we could afford Dubon on a limited budget after the year he just had, but he would be a really nice tool to pair with Allen to give Altuve and Correa some days off (or God forbid to cover injuries). I mainly just hate to keep seeing guys walk with very little compensation in return. I know that is the nature of the game today for most teams, but with the Dodgers bidding up the price of any decent FA, we aren't going to be able to buy our way back to the dynasty years. The smart move is to deal the guys you don't expect to re-sign like we did with Tucker.