***** 2026 Spurs Off-Season Thread *****

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Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 4:32a, 7/10/26
There's no way Kawhi doesn't retire if his contract is voided. This guy has made his entire NBA existence about getting the bag. His options right now if his contract is voided is retire or be forced to have another season like last year while making 10x less than what he was making in order to get one last bag. I can't imagine he puts himself through having to play 60+ games again next season in the hopes that he gets one last big contract. I also don't see many teams jumping on throwing that kinda money at a 36 yo chronically injured star with a history of causing trouble for the teams he plays for.
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In reply to Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag • 9:00a, 7/10/26
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Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:
There's no way Kawhi doesn't retire if his contract is voided. This guy has made his entire NBA existence about getting the bag. His options right now if his contract is voided is retire or be forced to have another season like last year while making 10x less than what he was making in order to get one last bag. I can't imagine he puts himself through having to play 60+ games again next season in the hopes that he gets one last big contract. I also don't see many teams jumping on throwing that kinda money at a 36 yo chronically injured star with a history of causing trouble for the teams he plays for.


Kinda depends on what he thinks about his legacy. Spurs have his number to Harper. He only played for the Raptors for 1 year. He destroyed the Clippers franchise.

Playing for the Raptors is really the only way he can be beloved anywhere. They were all thrilled to get him back even though he screwed them 7 years ago. He still plays at a high level when he plays and probably wants to make back some of the money lost.. Money and status has always been important to him..
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 9:30a, 7/10/26
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Dr. Not Yet Dr. Ag said:
There's no way Kawhi doesn't retire if his contract is voided. This guy has made his entire NBA existence about getting the bag. His options right now if his contract is voided is retire or be forced to have another season like last year while making 10x less than what he was making in order to get one last bag. I can't imagine he puts himself through having to play 60+ games again next season in the hopes that he gets one last big contract. I also don't see many teams jumping on throwing that kinda money at a 36 yo chronically injured star with a history of causing trouble for the teams he plays for.


Kinda depends on what he thinks about his legacy. Spurs have his number to Harper. He only played for the Raptors for 1 year. He destroyed the Clippers franchise.

Playing for the Raptors is really the only way he can be beloved anywhere. They were all thrilled to get him back even though he screwed them 7 years ago. He still plays at a high level when he plays and probably wants to make back some of the money lost.. Money and status has always been important to him..

Money and status have always been important to Uncle Denny. FIFY

Also, **** Kawhi
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10:14a, 7/10/26
It's a weird situation since no one has any real money left to give him if his contract is voided. And no one is going to have real money next off-season either, he'd be more likely to get an MLE type deal next year IMO then anything approaching a max deal because he won't have Bird rights letting his own team go over to keep him which also rules out S&T options that could max him out.

I don't think he'd consider retirement, but if the league voids his contract, then they are essentially minimizing his earning power going forward by tens of millions of dollars. Which, is probably what they want to do in order to send a message to other players about why they shouldn't accept no-show deals like this to circumvent the cap.
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In reply to AggieEP • 12:05p, 7/10/26
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Yeah and the Raptors were going to give him a 2y extension.

Say they gave him same thing as clippers: 2y100M total. That's about 28-29% of the cap when he can get 35%.

Plus losing this years salary of 50.

Raptors need to clear some salary to give him the full MLE of 15.

Then next year he could get a raise of 120%.

So he could klaw back about 50M of 150M over three years. Assuming his body holds together and they still want him after each season.
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Vassell, Fox, Harper, Victor on the list
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Not going to lie, seeing what Morez and Yaxel have done so far in summer league makes me a little sad we didn't find a way to move up for them. I know it's just summer league but dang…
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 1:29p, 7/10/26
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That would be huge news, but man, if there is anyone in the league that deserves the full max off his rookie deal, its Wemby.
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In reply to ThenamesAg • 1:37p, 7/10/26
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That would be huge news, but man, if there is anyone in the league that deserves the full max off his rookie deal, its Wemby.


"Money is kind of unhealthy, isn't it?"
Victor Wembanyama

https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/money-kind-unhealthy-isnt-victor-131300359.html

Also, with his sneaker deal being up in October and Curry landing that $400M deal last year, he's probably going to be making in the neighborhood of 75-100M/year in endorsement money, so taking a cut to make sure we keep Harper and Castle makes sense from a basketball standpoint
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 1:51p, 7/10/26
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Wemby's gonna be out there planting mesquite trees to make up the difference
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In reply to Guitarsoup • 2:13p, 7/10/26
Never having been offered 250 million dollars to do my job, I'm not sure how I would feel only taking 200 million instead, but if it led to a better work environment, sure why not.

The better way forward if the players really feel like this is to renegotiate what a "max contract" entails next time the CBA is up for negotiation. I think even the top level guys are aware that them making 75 million a year is nice, but not super helpful for building a winning team around them. Set the limit at 25% for traditional max and 30% of the cap for super max players and I think that also opens back up the middle class contracts we used to see a bit more.
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In reply to AggieEP • 2:29p, 7/10/26
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AggieEP said:
Never having been offered 250 million dollars to do my job, I'm not sure how I would feel only taking 200 million instead, but if it led to a better work environment, sure why not.

The better way forward if the players really feel like this is to renegotiate what a "max contract" entails next time the CBA is up for negotiation. I think even the top level guys are aware that them making 75 million a year is nice, but not super helpful for building a winning team around them. Set the limit at 25% for traditional max and 30% of the cap for super max players and I think that also opens back up the middle class contracts we used to see a bit more.


I think the way forward is that home grown players count as a max of 25% towards their cap, even if they sign a 30-35%. Maybe 20-25% knocks down 4% and 15-20% knocks down 3%.

Teams still pay the money but the overage doesn't count towards apron rules.

Similar to vet minimum. Jordan Clarkson signed a 3.9M vet min, but it only counts 2.5M to the aprons - same as 2y players. That's so teams aren't dissuaded from signing vets.
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In reply to AggieEP • 3:14p, 7/10/26
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Never having been offered 250 million dollars to do my job, I'm not sure how I would feel only taking 200 million instead, but if it led to a better work environment, sure why not.


I would absolutely take a lower salary to work with dudes i liked for a company I trusted. Of course, at these salaries its not like fretting over a $10,000 salary differential and no player (other than Latrell Sprewell) is worrird about how they're gonna feed their kids on an NBA salary, but to me it's not the players' fault owners are throwing max contracts to fringe all stars.
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In reply to superunknown • 4:30p, 7/10/26
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AggieEP said:
Never having been offered 250 million dollars to do my job, I'm not sure how I would feel only taking 200 million instead, but if it led to a better work environment, sure why not.


I would absolutely take a lower salary to work with dudes i liked for a company I trusted. Of course, at these salaries its not like fretting over a $10,000 salary differential and no player (other than Latrell Sprewell) is worrird about how they're gonna feed their kids on an NBA salary, but to me it's not the players' fault owners are throwing max contracts to fringe all stars.


No question. Will absolutely take less money for better working environment

Quality of life >>>
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The hot rumor in the endorsement circuit is Wemby will be getting a ten year 750 million deal from Nike. He gets that he could play for the minimum.
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In reply to superunknown • 5:22p, 7/10/26
Same, I literally already take a large pay cut working with my group compared to some of the other local groups, but I have more respect for honest financial structures, the friendship I have with many of my colleagues, and the flexibility they give me having been with them for nearly a decade. After a certain amount, money only goes so far to improve lifestyle. I'd prefer to have career longevity working with people I enjoy working with rather than burning out early.
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In reply to SanAntonio • 5:28p, 7/10/26
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Sea World


What if Lebron misses the old Sea World that was in Ohio?
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That's a big win. 5% is a decent role player in depth
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In reply to Cave Johnson, CEO • 5:54p, 7/10/26
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Hell yeah. I'll take it
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5:58p, 7/10/26
This is how dynasties are built. Yes the best players deserve to get their bread but to sacrifice a little bread for the legacy or championships is huge. It's what separated Brady from the rest same with Timmy
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
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5% paycut is massive, we are blessed to have such great leaders coming through our doors and setting the cultural standard
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Secretly hoping this leads Castle and Harper to sign the 25% max (maybe its not likely for either of them to qualify for the supermax) because i could actually see the Spurs paying those 3 guys 75% of the cap if they would all take it. Really stuck in my head the way Brad Stevens was like "we were going to be paying 70% for 2 guys" and I dont think most fans realize the hard choices that will be made in 2 years' time.
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In reply to superunknown • 7:26p, 7/10/26
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Secretly hoping this leads Castle and Harper to sign the 25% max (maybe its not likely for either of them to qualify for the supermax) because i could actually see the Spurs paying those 3 guys 75% of the cap if they would all take it. Really stuck in my head the way Brad Stevens was like "we were going to be paying 70% for 2 guys" and I dont think most fans realize the hard choices that will be made in 2 years' time.


I think that's why Castle will eventually be the odd man out. We can't give 75% to 3 players and expect to be legit title contenders over the long term.

I don't think this eventually is coming soon, but like what we are seeing with OKC, that first year having 3 max players on your team really forces you into some tight spots. So probably 3 more years until we really have to face this, but no way all 3 stay together unless Castle takes a deal that looks more like Devin's.
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