***** 2026 Spurs Off-Season Thread *****

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Ole boy Tobey got caught with his hand in the cookie jar
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ANd that cookie jar happens to be the sister of a player on the team...

My dogs woke me up at 4 am and I made the mistake of checking reddit and came across the posts. Even had a chance to see his story and Instagram before he woke up and deleted everything.

She went scorched earth.
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Cave Johnson, CEO said:

ANd that cookie jar happens to be the sister of a player on the team...

My dogs woke me up at 4 am and I made the mistake of checking reddit and came across the posts. Even had a chance to see his story and Instagram before he woke up and deleted everything.

She went scorched earth.

This is like the biggest day in the life of most of those incels on reddit. There were like a thousand posts before 9am.
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Spurs tradition being carried on…. Remember Tony Parker banging Brett Barry's wife…


Will be interesting to see if he gets fired by Spurs, and how fast. Lindy is team hunting, his sister doing this may not be a factor, but sure can't help.

The fact Tobey cheated, has pictures on his phone…. Left it unlocked…. His girlfriend went through it and found it then went scorched earth on his social media while he slept is hilarious.
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There was a game around mid season where Sean said something like I see you out there doing it, talking about going out and clubbing and Jacob was quick to respond and say he had a girlfriend.

My wife said that was too quick a response, he's gotta be cheating on her if he really does have a girlfriend.

Nailed it, and no I'm not gonna tell her she was right.
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Wow. I actually thought he was married.

Oh well, he's a good looking man though. We should all be so lucky.
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LawHall88 said:




Lowe is awesome. He has well thought out takes and his analysis is usually pretty solid. Hes the complete opposite of neck beard KOC who is an abject moron whose half baked takes really make me wonder if he just re-reads content from Twitter and tries to make it seem like his own profound take. I'll still listen to his pod but only bc he gets decent guests who know more about hoops than he does. At least he finally admitted his take about Harper being a bad fit for the Spurs was wrong.
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Spurs legend Vinny Del Negro involved in the new Vegas team

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"Notably"
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https://heavy.com/sports/nba/portland-trail-blazers/nba-trade-rumors-lakers-ready-to-strike-jayson-tatum-evan-mobley-more/
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LawHall88 said:


https://heavy.com/sports/nba/portland-trail-blazers/nba-trade-rumors-lakers-ready-to-strike-jayson-tatum-evan-mobley-more/

Herb Jones and Keldon Johnson notably being players that could cost multiple first round picks
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That sucks. Hell hath no fury
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I thought Tobey was a good play-by-play guy. And it wasn't like he was married. This seems like an overreaction, unless there is more behind the scenes stuff we don't know about.
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LawHall88 said:

I thought Tobey was a good play-by-play guy. And it wasn't like he was married. This seems like an overreaction, unless there is more behind the scenes stuff we don't know about.


When you're dumb enough to crap where you eat, you deserve to be fired.

Also, he's in a position where perception matters… and he knew this.

But otherwise - yes I agree this is otherwise just semi-standard common life drama.
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Yeah you can't be doing that with a players sister when you have to maintain a relationship with these guys. On a purely professional level, I am pretty pleased to not have him around anymore. He was constantly screwing up game situations, player names, and really basic stuff that anyone who cares about basketball would not screw up. He had a great voice and was getting better, but I think we can improve here.
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I believe this has nothing to do with it being Waters' sister and all to do with it being very public and him being in a role that is easily replaceable
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2008and1 said:

I believe this has nothing to do with it being Waters' sister and all to do with it being very public and him being in a role that is easily replaceable

I agree. I don't really understand people making it a big deal that it was Waters sister. She's an adult and they were in a consenting relationship. She is not part of the Spurs organization.
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For those that find this interesting.




His ex-found out:




From this:
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I kinda figured he would lose his job in this day and age.

I think the problem with him being involved with a players sister is that he has access to the team that others don't and he clearly took advantage of that.

Let's just say things between him and Lindy's sister did become an issue, and then there is beef with a player and the play by play guy. What are the Spurs supposed to do in that scenario.

Yes, they are consenting adults, but I would imagine a professional sports team doesn't want to be perceived as a place where their employees/associates/whatever you want to call this guy run around banging players sisters. He's way too old to not understand that concept.

I realize there is history of this already with Tony Parker, but that's a completely different issue. Tony was not easily replaceable and this guy is.

I think if nothing came had come from this and he kept his job, it wouldn't have been a big deal, but I get the Spurs side of things.
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Lindy's sister is a well known Native American filmmaker and Tobey is also a Native American obviously working in media. It's not out of the realm of possibility that they knew each other before Waters was even a member of the Spurs
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Guitarsoup said:

Lindy's sister is a well known Native American filmmaker and Tobey is also a Native American obviously working in media. It's not out of the realm of possibility that they knew each other before Waters was even a member of the Spurs

Guitarsoup - Master of Cap spending/strategy and plugged into the Native American film and broadcast industry.

You're a renaissance man
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Lindy and Jacob did a piece on it for the Spurs Indigenous Persons Game. They started that back when Patty was on the team.
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League is gonna void Kawhi's contract and refused to approve the trade.

Also, the league is so ****ing inept for letting it drag on this long. We have sworn witness statements under the penalty of perjury years before Pablo was ever involved that this Aspirations deal was done explicitly to circumvent the cap.

All this should have been handled by the Finals so teams could make their draft plans with this in place.
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If you read the statement it reads as if the league is telling Toronto that if they approve the trade, Toronto also assumes all potential punishment that comes with it.

That's a bit weird, all Toronto has done is trade for Leonard.
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satexas said:

If you read the statement it reads as if the league is telling Toronto that if they approve the trade, Toronto also assumes all potential punishment that comes with it.

That's a bit weird, all Toronto has done is trade for Leonard.

The risk is that the league can void Kawhi's contract. So Toronto would be trading two firsts and Ingram for air.
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IN THE COMING WEEKS
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Guitarsoup said:

satexas said:

If you read the statement it reads as if the league is telling Toronto that if they approve the trade, Toronto also assumes all potential punishment that comes with it.

That's a bit weird, all Toronto has done is trade for Leonard.

The risk is that the league can void Kawhi's contract. So Toronto would be trading two firsts and Ingram for air.


Correct, and Toronto isn't that stupid/desperate, so it's all "on hold", while we wait "weeks".

Basically they have Ballmer's ass. We KNOW he did it. They KNOW he did it. The trick is PROVING it without enough data with the least amount of risk of error - enough guidelines to stave off Ballmer's army of lawyers who will make this worse.

Of course the flip side is they come to some agreement (more than likely) where Ballmer takes a fine/penalty, understanding he's busted and the fights not worth it, and all parties move on and he doesn't become super-hated by the NBA brass more than he is now. But will Ballmer's ego allow that?
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I think the league presents the findings next week at the BOG meeting. I think they are prepared for a fight from Ballmer, and will do some negotiated settlement of some sort so that this isn't drawn out by him forever.

I don't see how they could justify not coming down hard, though. If they don't come down hard, the salary cap means nothing. Wemby gets a 5y minimum extension and a $500M deal to sell computers for Dell.

The league also doesn't know what else Pablo has waiting to be fired off. He has let that drip out over the last ten months and I have no doubt he has a show scheduled for after the punishment. Don't forgot, Pablo won the ****ing Pulitzer for this. So if the league doesn't come down hard, and then Pablo immediately launches an episode with the smoking gun about how Ballmer got all this swept under the rug, the NBA looks even more inept. As it is, their white shoes law firm has taken longer than the Warren Commission did to investigate the Kennedy Assassination (my other researching love besides the NBA.)

Ballmer and Lawrence Frank should get 1y bans. 7M fine. I think probably 3 firsts, but non-consecutive.

Kawhi gets a 350k fine and contract voided.
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What all is involved with the voided contract? Can't he just sign a new contract?
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aggiesherpa said:

What all is involved with the voided contract? Can't he just sign a new contract?


Yes, but everyone's used their cap space and he won't have bird rights.

So the Spurs could theoretically sign him for for a $5 million deal.

Detroit may have some money available.

I'm not sure who has the MLE left. The Raptors only have like $5 million below the hard cap.

And then next year nobody would have bird rights on his because it takes 3 years to develop bird rides. So a team could use all of their cap space on a 36 or 37-year-old Kawhi Leonard to give him a big contract. The Raptors were about to give him a 2 or 3-year extension.
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Ohhhh gotcha. Thanks!
 
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