***********2024-2025 San Antonio Spurs Thread********************

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Spurs are apparently the favorites to land Naz this offseason at +400. Salary wise I don't see how that happens.
Dumb fans saying dumb things. We don't have cap space and they just traded away KAT to be able to resign him. They could lose Randle and Naz after trading KAT? That's not happening with new owners. If they lose Naz, Ant demands a trade immediately.

Naz is a great fit for us, but it just is not going to happen.


Speaking of dumb fans saying dumb things, i want to throw my phone through a wall when i see people saying Avery Johnson should be the next HC.


Or the ones that want us to trade a bunch of picks to get Durant this summer
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Do any of yall care that I do this?


Definitely!
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Guitarsoup said:

superunknown said:

Guitarsoup said:

Enzo The Baker said:

Spurs are apparently the favorites to land Naz this offseason at +400. Salary wise I don't see how that happens.
Dumb fans saying dumb things. We don't have cap space and they just traded away KAT to be able to resign him. They could lose Randle and Naz after trading KAT? That's not happening with new owners. If they lose Naz, Ant demands a trade immediately.

Naz is a great fit for us, but it just is not going to happen.


Speaking of dumb fans saying dumb things, i want to throw my phone through a wall when i see people saying Avery Johnson should be the next HC.


Or the ones that want us to trade a bunch of picks to get Durant this summer


I'm gonna assume these terrible ideas come from Spurstalk.
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Trae Young has shot 50% more FTs than the Charlotte Hornets.
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BUFFALO!!!!!
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superunknown said:

Guitarsoup said:

Enzo The Baker said:

Spurs are apparently the favorites to land Naz this offseason at +400. Salary wise I don't see how that happens.
Dumb fans saying dumb things. We don't have cap space and they just traded away KAT to be able to resign him. They could lose Randle and Naz after trading KAT? That's not happening with new owners. If they lose Naz, Ant demands a trade immediately.

Naz is a great fit for us, but it just is not going to happen.


Speaking of dumb fans saying dumb things, i want to throw my phone through a wall when i see people saying Avery Johnson should be the next HC.
Yes, and I like Avery. But not for the hc of spurs.
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superunknown said:

Guitarsoup said:

Enzo The Baker said:

Spurs are apparently the favorites to land Naz this offseason at +400. Salary wise I don't see how that happens.
Dumb fans saying dumb things. We don't have cap space and they just traded away KAT to be able to resign him. They could lose Randle and Naz after trading KAT? That's not happening with new owners. If they lose Naz, Ant demands a trade immediately.

Naz is a great fit for us, but it just is not going to happen.


Speaking of dumb fans saying dumb things, i want to throw my phone through a wall when i see people saying Avery Johnson should be the next HC.
The only guy the Spurs should be hiring is Tuomas Iisalo.

But I feel like Pop gonna make them hire Mitch because he's been the ultimate yes man this year.
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Ag Natural said:

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Is anyone in the media going to ask Mitch what they are doing?

We are six back of the play in with 20 to go. Seventh worst record but only 1.5 back from tenth worst record.

They should have Fox shut down for his surgery and be featuring Castle rest of the way.


You want the media to ask the coach why he's trying to win? Not to mention they haven't been winning so why are you worried about it?
Like I said.

Running Fox 41 minutes tonight with a bad hand to beat the Mavs for why?

It's like Pop wants to prove he can trot out any of his assistants and make the playoffs to show how great he is. Meanwhile, we move down the ranks for the draft when we need to be doing all we can to maximize our draft stock this summer.

Just idiotic.
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FTAG 2000 said:

Ag Natural said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Is anyone in the media going to ask Mitch what they are doing?

We are six back of the play in with 20 to go. Seventh worst record but only 1.5 back from tenth worst record.

They should have Fox shut down for his surgery and be featuring Castle rest of the way.


You want the media to ask the coach why he's trying to win? Not to mention they haven't been winning so why are you worried about it?
Like I said.

Running Fox 41 minutes tonight with a bad hand to beat the Mavs for why?

It's like Pop wants to prove he can trot out any of his assistants and make the playoffs to show how great he is. Meanwhile, we move down the ranks for the draft when we need to be doing all we can to maximize our draft stock this summer.

Just idiotic.


Coaches and players don't tank. They are trying to win their next job or next contract. What's idiotic is blaming them. Front offices orchestrate tank jobs and they've done a pretty good job IMO. They've won 4 games since Wemby went down. I think its extremely toxic to simply not compete, it forms bad habits. So I'm fine with them winning a few down the stretch and losing a few percentage points in the lottery. There isn't that big of a possible range for them to land in.
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Ag Natural said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Ag Natural said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Is anyone in the media going to ask Mitch what they are doing?

We are six back of the play in with 20 to go. Seventh worst record but only 1.5 back from tenth worst record.

They should have Fox shut down for his surgery and be featuring Castle rest of the way.


You want the media to ask the coach why he's trying to win? Not to mention they haven't been winning so why are you worried about it?
Like I said.

Running Fox 41 minutes tonight with a bad hand to beat the Mavs for why?

It's like Pop wants to prove he can trot out any of his assistants and make the playoffs to show how great he is. Meanwhile, we move down the ranks for the draft when we need to be doing all we can to maximize our draft stock this summer.

Just idiotic.


Coaches and players don't tank. They are trying to win their next job or next contract. What's idiotic is blaming them. Front offices orchestrate tank jobs and they've done a pretty good job IMO. They've won 4 games since Wemby went down. I think its extremely toxic to simply not compete, it forms bad habits. So I'm fine with them winning a few down the stretch and losing a few percentage points in the lottery. There isn't that big of a possible range for them to land in.
They had no problem tanking the Wemby draft season.

Acting like they can't do it again in the best and last chance to improve the team through the draft is pretty revisionist.
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He's saying the front office tanked that season by trading away White, Poeltl, DeRozan, DeJounte and the biggest loss of all, letting Lonnie walk in free agency.

I don't think that team (especially with the injuries) could have won more than 22 games.

I'm all aboard the tank train. Let Castle, Devin, and Jeremy figure stuff out. But as long as Fox is playing, we are going to be able to win games, especially against teams like Dallas right now.
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FTAG 2000 said:

Ag Natural said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Ag Natural said:

FTAG 2000 said:

Is anyone in the media going to ask Mitch what they are doing?

We are six back of the play in with 20 to go. Seventh worst record but only 1.5 back from tenth worst record.

They should have Fox shut down for his surgery and be featuring Castle rest of the way.


You want the media to ask the coach why he's trying to win? Not to mention they haven't been winning so why are you worried about it?
Like I said.

Running Fox 41 minutes tonight with a bad hand to beat the Mavs for why?

It's like Pop wants to prove he can trot out any of his assistants and make the playoffs to show how great he is. Meanwhile, we move down the ranks for the draft when we need to be doing all we can to maximize our draft stock this summer.

Just idiotic.


Coaches and players don't tank. They are trying to win their next job or next contract. What's idiotic is blaming them. Front offices orchestrate tank jobs and they've done a pretty good job IMO. They've won 4 games since Wemby went down. I think its extremely toxic to simply not compete, it forms bad habits. So I'm fine with them winning a few down the stretch and losing a few percentage points in the lottery. There isn't that big of a possible range for them to land in.
They had no problem tanking the Wemby draft season.

Acting like they can't do it again in the best and last chance to improve the team through the draft is pretty revisionist.


Once again, it makes no sense to complain about the approach. They won 22 games with a team torn down to the nub. They won Wemby and promptly won 22 games again while NOT trying to lose. In fact they had to get hot at the end of the season to even get there. They already have too many wins to get in that bottom 5 or 6 so why not just play and hope good habits carry over to next season? Nobody is going to convince me that picking between 5 vs 9 is going to be that critical.
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For this season, they can't get to the bottom 4, so might as well just let the guys play. Fox should probably be shut down, but fans want to see the big names so maybe that is part of it. He might also be a gamer and just doesn't want to set the precedent early. I trust the team doctors more than fans opinions.

As for the bigger picture, this year was our last chance at the top of the lottery for a long time (barring injuries). Maybe the Spurs are finally leaning into the idea that the talent will come from Free Agency/trades moving forward. The Wemby/Fox combo is so juicy.
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Tank watch:

Spurs vs Pelicans. Zion should cook against Bismack and Barnes.

Suns vs Grizzlies. Go Suns. Right the ship, dipships.

Celtics vs Raptors. Praying Scottie Barnes pulls off a miracle here.

Lakers vs Mavericks. Pure Chaos. Neither team really affects us, but I hope the Lakers lose by a million and Max Christie breaks Wilt's single game record.

Spurs lost to the 2nd worst team in the league, Suns unsurprisingly lost against... this time in OT. Raptors didn't pull off the upset.

Spurs are at 9th in the tank, moving below Portland.

Tank Watch 2/26

Raptors vs Pacers.. need Toronto to pull off the upset on the 2nd night of a BtB.

76ers vs Knicks. Need the 76ers to win, but they are the most pathetic franchise in the league.

Blazers vs Wizards, this should be easy for Portland... should be.

OKC vs Brooklyn. Go Nets. Punish yourself for not selling Cam Johnson for pennies on the dollar.

Hawks vs Heat: Need Miami to win.

Clippers vs Bulls: Need Chicago to win and Kawhi and Harden to lose. Come on Zach Collins, do something amazing.

Spurs vs Rockets. GoRocketsGo?

Spurs games up on other teams:
Bulls 2
Nets 3.5
76ers 4.5
RaptoYesrs 7
Tank Watch 2/27

Spurs. Raptors, 76ers, Bulls and Nets all lost, but the Blazers won and the Hawks lost.

With the Hawks loss, they dropped to 9th, but they are 5.5 games above 11th and 4 games above the Bulls at 10th. That moved them from 15th (playoff) to 11th worst, with a ~9% shot at top 4. Hawks are 1 game up on Portland for 10th.

Suns are half game above Atlanta and they play the Pelicans, so maybe Durant will decide to not suck. Also, Houston owns the Suns picks, so benefits us for the Suns to make the playoffs.

Atlanta at 11th and us at 9th gives us about a 30% shot at top 4.


Hawks +2 (5-5 last 10)
Blazers +1 (6-4 last 10)
Spurs 0
Bulls -2
Nets -3.5
76ers -4.5 (lost 9 straight)
Raptors -7
Tank watch 2/28

Suns lost because they are completely pathetic.

Embiid is officially out for the season.... so Philly probably tanks? Or they improve without his pathetic foul merchant ass. IDK.

Hawks +2 (5-5 last 10)
Suns +2
Blazers +1 (6-4 last 10)
Spurs 0
Bulls -2
Nets -3.5
76ers -4.5 (lost 9 straight)
Raptors -7

Hawks vs OKC - Go Thunder.

Blazers vs Nets. Would prefer Nets win here, but think Blazers win. Nets wins are harder to come by and we need them more.

Raptors vs Bulls. We have more ground to make up on the Raptors, but the Bulls are more likely to pass. I would rather the Raptors win. Gun for that 5th seed.

Pelicans vs Suns. Suns need to win at some point. Get back above Atlanta.


Yesterday was a good day for us. Hawks lost, Suns won, Blazers won, and Bulls won. Spurs still 9th in lottery odds.

Tank Watch 3/1


Suns +2.5
Blazers +1.5
Hawks +1.5
Spurs 0
Bulls -1.5
Nets -4
76ers -4.5 (lost 9 straight)
Raptors -7.5

Games tonight (bold is what helps our draft positions the most)

Nets vs Pistons
Spurs at Grizzlies
Warriors at 76ers


Fox really blew it for the Tank Watch last night.



Tank Watch 3/2

Spurs are still 9th with 20% chance at top 4 pick and 51% chance at 9th
Hawks are tied for 10th with 11.6% chance at top 4 pick and 66% chance at 10th.


Suns +2
Blazers +1
Hawks +1
Spurs 0
Bulls -2
76ers -4.5
Nets -5
Raptors -8

Team winning that helps our draft bolded:

Blazers vs Cavs
Bulls vs Pacers
Raptors vs Magic
Thunder vs Spurs
Suns vs Wolves

Rough night last night in tankland.

Tank Watch 3/3

Spurs are still 9th with 20% chance at top 4 pick and 51% chance at 9th
Blazers choked away a double-digit lead to drop half a game behind Atlanta.
Hawks are 11th with a 9.4% shot at a top 4 pick and a 78% shot at 11th.

Tonight's games:

Blazers vs 76ers. Could go either way. More likely scenario is the 76ers tank to bottom five, so Blazers being above the Hawks helps us. But if we think we can get below the 76ers, we take every win we possibly can here.

Wizards vs Heat. Heat are only 1.5 games above Atlanta.

Hawks vs Grizzlies.


Suns +2
Hawks +1.5
Blazers +1
Spurs 0
Bulls -2
76ers -4
Nets -4.5
Raptors -8


****in Grizzlies man. They were up and had turnovers on their last four possessions including with a tie game and 3 seconds left to lose to the Hawks. **** them.

Spurs are still 9th with 20% chance at top 4 pick and 51% chance at 9th
Hawks are tied with Phoenix for 11th, splitting the 11th and 12th odds for about 8% chance at top 4

Tank Watch 3/4

Raptors at Magic
Bucks at Hawks
Cavs at Bulls
76ers at Wolves
Nets at Spurs
Clippers at Suns

Suns +2
Hawks +2
Blazers +1.5
Spurs 0
Bulls -2
76ers -4.5
Nets -4.5
Raptors -7
Had some good outcomes for the tank, despite Spurs beating the nets. Raptor and Suns won and Hawks lost.

Tank Watch 3/5

Blazers
at Celtics
Heat at Cavs

Not a super important night, but looks like two massive longshots. Also Orlando dips down.

Spurs still 9th with ~20% chance to get top 4.
Hawks are tied for 10th with Portland with 11.6% at top 4.

Heat +3
Suns +2
Magic +1.5
Blazers +1
Hawks +1
Spurs 0
Bulls -3
76ers -5.5
Nets -5.5
Raptors -7
Exactly what we expected to happen last night happened.

Tank Watch 3/6

Bulls at Magic
pacers at Hawks
76ers at Celtics
Warriors at Nets

Spurs still 9th with 20% chance at top 4.
Hawks are alone at 11th with just under 10% at top 4.

Heat +2.5
Suns +2
Magic +1.5
Hawks +1
Blazers +0.5
Spurs 0
Bulls -3
76ers -5.5
Nets -5.5
Raptors -7


****ing Hawks won. They moved up above Orlando with that win for 8th spot. 7-10 are playin.

Tank Watch 3/7

Jazz at Raptors
Timberwolves at Heat
Trailblazers at Thunder
Suns at Nuggets
Spurs at Kings

Spurs still 9th with 20% chance at top 4.
Hawks would be 15th.

Heat +2.5
Suns +2
Hawks +1.5
Magic +1
Blazers +0.5
Spurs 0
Bulls -2.5
76ers -6
Nets -6
Raptors -7

That's crazy tight.
At least the Raptors lost.

Tank Watch 3/8

Nets
at Hornets
Pacers at Hawks
Wizard at Raptors
Bulls at Heat
Magic at Bucks

Spurs are still 9th with ~20% chance at top 4.
Hawks are 8th in the East and 7th-9th is separated by 1 game. Then Bulls are 10th 3.5 games back of 9th. Brooklyn and Philly are 3.5 games back of that. Likely that 7-10 playin is Heat, Hawks, Magic, and Bulls.

Heat +2.5
Hawks +2
Suns +2
Magic +1
Blazers +0.5
Spurs 0
Bulls -2
76ers -5.5
Nets -5.5
Raptors -6

Blazers are 4 games back from Dallas in 10th, so not unthinkable that Portland makes that up with all of Dallas' injuries.
****ing Hawks keep having teams go brain dead against them. Heat are now 7th in the least, but 5 games back on Detroit.

Tank Watch 3/9

Suns
at Mavs
Jazz at 76ers
Spurs at Wolves
Pistons at Blazers


Spurs still 9th with 20% chance at top 4.
Hawks pick would be 16th.

Heat +2.5
Hawks +2
Suns +2
Magic +2
Blazers +0.5
Spurs 0
Bulls -1.5
76ers -5.5
Nets -6
Raptors -6.5
Solid day for the draft yesterday, except the Blazers not pulling off the upset at home.

Spurs still 9th with 20% chance at top 4. Bulls just 1 game above (same wins, 2 more losses). Swapping with them moves us to 26.2% chance at top 4.
Hawks still 7th in East, which is about 16th in draft, but it is the top seed in the play-in.


76ers at Hawks
Lakers at Nets (LeGroin is injured)
Hornets at Heat
Wizards at Raptors
Pacers at Bulls
Magic at Rockets (Amen is hurt)
Suns at Memphis
Dallas at Spurs
Blazers at Warriors



Hawks +3
Suns +3
Heat +2.5
Magic +2.5
Blazers +0.5
Spurs 0
Bulls -1
76ers -4.5
Nets -5.5
Raptors -6
Last night was a great night for the tank. Not perfect (Philly vs Hawks) but we moved up to 8th!

Hawks are now firmly in 7th by 1.5 games and just 1.5 games below Dallas.

Tonight 3/11:

Nets at Cavs

And.... that's it

Hawks +4
Suns +3
Magic +2.5
Heat +2.5
Blazers +1.5
Bulls 0 (they have 1 more win and 1 more loss, so we are below them)
Spurs 0
Nets -4.5
76ers -4.5
Raptors -5

Spurs have 4 more wins than Brooklyn, Philly, and Toronto.

Moving to 8th means: 26.2% shot at top 4. 34.5% at 8, and 32.1% at 9. Being at 9th would be 51% at 9 and 26% at 10.



Cavs barely won in a 4th quarter comeback against the Nets. Almost gained half a game.

Tonight 3/12.

Hornets at Hawks
76ers at Raptors - super tankathon. Everyone is out except Lonnie Walker.
Clippers at Heat
Mavs at Spurs - don't forget to chant Fire Nico in SA.
Knicks at Blazers

Guessing it won';t be the best tank night.

Hawks +4
Suns +3
Magic +2.5
Heat +2.5
Blazers +1.5
Bulls 0 (they have 1 more win and 1 more loss, so we are below them)
Spurs 0
76ers -4.5
Raptors -5
Nets -5

Spurs have 4 more wins than Brooklyn, Philly, and Toronto. Not sure we are going to be able to catch any of them. Will any of them win 4 more games this season?

Spurs are 8th: 26.2% shot at top 4.

Do any of yall care that I do this?
We knew it was going to be an awful night for the draft, so no surprises. Spurs dropped from 8th to 10th. It was that bad. And Portland, who was really hot, has now lost 5 straight.

March 13

Nets at Bulls - we are 5 wins up on the Nets, I'm not sure they win 5 more games this season. I think cheering for the Bulls makes sense.
Magic at Pelicans

Mavs +4.5
Hawks +4
Magic +2
Suns +2
Heat +1.5
Spurs 0
Blazers -0.5 (one more win, two more losses)
Bulls -0.5
Raptors -5
Nets -5.5
76ers -5.5

Yep, we are officially closer to the Play In than we are to 7th worst record (Toronto)

Last night moved us from 8th with 26.2% chance at top 4 to 10th with 14% at top 4 and it halved our shot at Flagg.
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Eh, Cooper Flagg is damaged goods anyway.
 
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