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Castle forcing Harden into an eight second backcourt violation. When's the last time anyone forced Harden into one of those?
superunknown said:
Does Barnes use a beach towel for his Merton Hanks neck? (clever shht post, he thinks to himself)
*golf clap*
Every Spur scored (Even Sidy Cissoko) and no Spurs had a negative +/- (Even Branham)
Enzo The Baker said:
Vassell has turned from a disappointing defender into a plain bad defender. You can tell, he doesn't have the smarts. I don't see him on this team long term.
This is the NBA. There is room for a bad defender who can score. Vessel is absolutely in the long term plan.
Ag Natural said:Enzo The Baker said:
Vassell has turned from a disappointing defender into a plain bad defender. You can tell, he doesn't have the smarts. I don't see him on this team long term.
This is the NBA. There is room for a bad defender who can score. Vessel is absolutely in the long term plan.
As a 6th man maybe. But him as even a 3rd guy on a contender, I don't see it. Even if the consistency with his shooting comes. Poor defender. Tunnel vision on offense. At some point his salary for what he provides to this team is going to have to be justified. And that assumes he stays healthy too.
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1dmnacr/oc_comparing_the_top_shot_blockers_since_2000/
Someone on Reddit compiled a list of blocks from the big time rim protectors post-2000 and there are some interesting things. This only includes Wemby's rookie season.
Duncan only had 11 goaltends, Wemby is at 14, but Dwight Howard had almost 500. Duncan had 1 goaltend for every 244 blocks.
We,by has just .35 shooting fouls per block. Next best was Ben Wallace at .52. Duncan was .6. Snaq OMeal had 1.03.
As we all expected, Wemby is #1 in blocks recovered. Duncan is 6th and all players above him are active.
Someone on Reddit compiled a list of blocks from the big time rim protectors post-2000 and there are some interesting things. This only includes Wemby's rookie season.
Duncan only had 11 goaltends, Wemby is at 14, but Dwight Howard had almost 500. Duncan had 1 goaltend for every 244 blocks.
We,by has just .35 shooting fouls per block. Next best was Ben Wallace at .52. Duncan was .6. Snaq OMeal had 1.03.
As we all expected, Wemby is #1 in blocks recovered. Duncan is 6th and all players above him are active.
Devin's contract is descending so his last two years he is only 13% of the cap. That is less than Derrick White is making this year... before his extension kicks in. If you consider us hard capped at the luxury tax, his contract will be 10.8% of the luxury tax in those two seasons. It is 14%, 13%, 10.8, 10.8, Even if we have to convince him to become a 6th man and run the 2nd team offense, that's still a good value if he can do 15/4/4 on 46/38 shooting in that role.Enzo The Baker said:Ag Natural said:Enzo The Baker said:
Vassell has turned from a disappointing defender into a plain bad defender. You can tell, he doesn't have the smarts. I don't see him on this team long term.
This is the NBA. There is room for a bad defender who can score. Vessel is absolutely in the long term plan.
As a 6th man maybe. But him as even a 3rd guy on a contender, I don't see it. Even if the consistency with his shooting comes. Poor defender. Tunnel vision on offense. At some point his salary for what he provides to this team is going to have to be justified. And that assumes he stays healthy too.
I also don't have him as untouchable as Castle or Sochan because of his injuries.
But we are going to need Castle to really take the leap in efficiency and we are going to need to find a shooter/scorer for that role.
We need a forward to go with Jeremy that can shoot and a SG that can shoot because there is a really great chance that neither Sochan or Castle become 35% 3pt shooters. And I do think those two can anchor the perimeter defense, but if they can't keep teams from collapsing on Wemby in the block, we aren't going to be net positives there.
The direction this team needs to take should take form when the lottery hits. As much as I want more two-way players like how Boston has 5 starters that play 2-ways, I think it is really clear we need a #2 scorer that can put pressure on the defense. I hope that can be a forward, but I don't think that is a player like Cam Johnson, who is really is only spacing the floor, not putting pressure on defenses.
I think that Ace Bailey could be that guy, but he also might be a Melo Anthony guy that is a great individual scorer that doesn't work in the context of a high level team. Tre Johnson may be that guy as a SG, but I don't think he will be a good as Devin defensively. I think he might be a player like Zach LeVine. Great scorer, shooter, but can't defend - can we win with a guy like that between Castle and Sochan? He'd be an upgrade over Devin on offense, but is that a championship team?
Enzo The Baker said:Ag Natural said:Enzo The Baker said:
Vassell has turned from a disappointing defender into a plain bad defender. You can tell, he doesn't have the smarts. I don't see him on this team long term.
This is the NBA. There is room for a bad defender who can score. Vessel is absolutely in the long term plan.
As a 6th man maybe. But him as even a 3rd guy on a contender, I don't see it. Even if the consistency with his shooting comes. Poor defender. Tunnel vision on offense. At some point his salary for what he provides to this team is going to have to be justified. And that assumes he stays healthy too.
How many contending teams have a 3rd guy better than Vassell? He's absolutely a key player for this team.
And he will be under 14% of the luxury tax (and declining) for the next 4 seasons.Ag Natural said:Enzo The Baker said:Ag Natural said:Enzo The Baker said:
Vassell has turned from a disappointing defender into a plain bad defender. You can tell, he doesn't have the smarts. I don't see him on this team long term.
This is the NBA. There is room for a bad defender who can score. Vessel is absolutely in the long term plan.
As a 6th man maybe. But him as even a 3rd guy on a contender, I don't see it. Even if the consistency with his shooting comes. Poor defender. Tunnel vision on offense. At some point his salary for what he provides to this team is going to have to be justified. And that assumes he stays healthy too.
How many contending teams have a 3rd guy better than Vassell? He's absolutely a key player for this team.
Boston has Brown, Tatue, Jrue, Kristaps, and White above that.
Cleveland has Garland, Mitchell, Allen, Mobley above that.
Houston has FVV, Sengun, and Green above that.
Memphis has Ja and Bane above that and JJJ gets an extension this summer.
Miami has Butler, Bam and Herro above that.
Milwaukee has Giannis, Dame, and Khris above it.
Minnesota has Gobert, Ant, Randle, and McDaniels above it. Randle can opt out after this year and Naz will be a UFA.
NOP has Zion, CJ, and DJM over that and Ingram is a UFA making 36M right now.
Knicks have KAT, OG, and Brunson making more.
Orlando has Suggs and Wagner and soon Paolo making more.
Philly has Embiid, George, and Maxey
PHX has Durant, Beal, and BOoker.
Toronto has Barnes, Barrett, and Quickley
I think his contract is fair for his place as a player, on the team and in the league. If anything, it is a good team value contract.
The problem is the talent deficit at forward, big, backup SG and that Sochan and Castle have a good bit of developing to do.
The turn on Vassell is really weird to me. He spent all offseason dealing with his surgery and didn't get any offseason or preseason work. He's also only played 18 games so far and only started 7. I think he's still trying to hit his stride this season, and he's still trying to find how he fits around the new guys. With Paul and Castle, Dev has spent less time with the ball in his hands than he has in previous seasons. We all want him to make a big jump and have high expectations for him, but he's earned a little bit of grace before we just dangle him as trade bait.
The fact that he can't stay healthy is another concern all in itself tbh.
I don't dislike Vassell. He is a good player but I don't see him becoming a reliable #2 (top 20-25) nba player. That's fine, doesn't mean he's not an important piece or anything. I just think people had higher expectations. However, if you can use him in a trade to acquire a clear #2 guy, I'm definitely open to listening.
I don't dislike Vassell. He is a good player but I don't see him becoming a reliable #2 (top 20-25) nba player. That's fine, doesn't mean he's not an important piece or anything. I just think people had higher expectations. However, if you can use him in a trade to acquire a clear #2 guy, I'm definitely open to listening.
Sher Thing said:
The fact that he can't stay healthy is another concern all in itself tbh.
I don't dislike Vassell. He is a good player but I don't see him becoming a reliable #2 (top 20-25) nba player. That's fine, doesn't mean he's not an important piece or anything. I just think people had higher expectations. However, if you can use him in a trade to acquire a clear #2 guy, I'm definitely open to listening.
I think Vassell has a ceiling of being a #3 option in a contending team. I think a lot of the frustration is that we lack a #2 and he isn't able to fill that.
Ag Natural said:Enzo The Baker said:Ag Natural said:Enzo The Baker said:
Vassell has turned from a disappointing defender into a plain bad defender. You can tell, he doesn't have the smarts. I don't see him on this team long term.
This is the NBA. There is room for a bad defender who can score. Vessel is absolutely in the long term plan.
As a 6th man maybe. But him as even a 3rd guy on a contender, I don't see it. Even if the consistency with his shooting comes. Poor defender. Tunnel vision on offense. At some point his salary for what he provides to this team is going to have to be justified. And that assumes he stays healthy too.
How many contending teams have a 3rd guy better than Vassell? He's absolutely a key player for this team.
Basically all of them. I'd take the third guy on each of the teams below over Vassell (right now).
Contenders
Nuggets
Celtics
OKC
Cleveland
Memphis
Magic
Knicks
Wannabe-contenders
Lakers
Not close
Philadelphia
West Texan said:
The turn on Vassell is really weird to me. He spent all offseason dealing with his surgery and didn't get any offseason or preseason work. He's also only played 18 games so far and only started 7. I think he's still trying to hit his stride this season, and he's still trying to find how he fits around the new guys. With Paul and Castle, Dev has spent less time with the ball in his hands than he has in previous seasons. We all want him to make a big jump and have high expectations for him, but he's earned a little bit of grace before we just dangle him as trade bait.
That's a good point. I think the expectations I have could be too high given the circumstances. And maybe his injury is part of the reason why he isn't moving well on defense.
But you would't take all those guys over Vassell considering their contract. Do you want to pay Devin $100M over the next 4 years or Paul George 200M? Devin for $100M or Jamal Murray for $207M over 4 years? Jalen Suggs (16/4/4 on 41/30 shooting this year) making more than Devin (5y150, also declining).Enzo The Baker said:Ag Natural said:Enzo The Baker said:Ag Natural said:Enzo The Baker said:
Vassell has turned from a disappointing defender into a plain bad defender. You can tell, he doesn't have the smarts. I don't see him on this team long term.
This is the NBA. There is room for a bad defender who can score. Vessel is absolutely in the long term plan.
As a 6th man maybe. But him as even a 3rd guy on a contender, I don't see it. Even if the consistency with his shooting comes. Poor defender. Tunnel vision on offense. At some point his salary for what he provides to this team is going to have to be justified. And that assumes he stays healthy too.
How many contending teams have a 3rd guy better than Vassell? He's absolutely a key player for this team.
Basically all of them. I'd take the third guy on each of the teams below over Vassell (right now).
Contenders
Nuggets
Celtics
OKC
Cleveland
Memphis
Magic
Knicks
Wannabe-contenders
Lakers
Not close
Philadelphia
Like SherThing said, I don't think Devin has a path to be the #2 player or a top 30 player. But I do think he has a path to be a really good 3rd or 4th option and his salary is closer to a 4th or 5th option of a contending team.
If you can package him with a pick and get a legit #2 who can shoot and create and doesn't suck at defense, I think you do that. But who is really available? The guys I would want the most would be like Scottie Barnes, Jalen Johnson or Franz Wagner, but none of those teams are giving them up for Vassell and the Atlanta picks.
Lauri isnt that good defensively and KOC said Utah's asking price was something similar to Mitchell and Gobert. So 5ish firsts and young players.
The other question to ask is can we win with the best player in the league plus 4-5 #3-4 options. Add a guy like Cam Johnson, Sochan improves a little, Castle improves a lot, we draft another bench creator and we have Vic and 4-5 guys that can average 12-17ppg. Titles have been won like that, but will we see it in the 2-3 Max contract age? I think a team that fits together like that is easier to build and easier to build with two-way players. We could go get a Zach LaVine or Cam Thomas easily, but where are we going to be a team with a scorer like that? I might prefer 4 #3 scorers than a very good #2 scorer that is a massive negative defensively.
Definitely would not take a lot of those guys' contracts over Devin's.
Enzo The Baker said:Ag Natural said:Enzo The Baker said:Ag Natural said:Enzo The Baker said:
Vassell has turned from a disappointing defender into a plain bad defender. You can tell, he doesn't have the smarts. I don't see him on this team long term.
This is the NBA. There is room for a bad defender who can score. Vessel is absolutely in the long term plan.
As a 6th man maybe. But him as even a 3rd guy on a contender, I don't see it. Even if the consistency with his shooting comes. Poor defender. Tunnel vision on offense. At some point his salary for what he provides to this team is going to have to be justified. And that assumes he stays healthy too.
How many contending teams have a 3rd guy better than Vassell? He's absolutely a key player for this team.
Basically all of them. I'd take the third guy on each of the teams below over Vassell (right now).
Contenders
Nuggets
Celtics
OKC
Cleveland
Memphis
Magic
Knicks
Wannabe-contenders
Lakers
Not close
Philadelphia
Maybe I just like him more than you. But I'll give you OKC, Celtics and Sixers. There might be a guy on Houston I'd take.
Iko: Since Jeremy Sochan returned to the lineup earlier this month, Stephon Castle has been sent back to the second unit but still spends the majority of time playing alongside the starters. (Interim head coach Mitch Johnson has run some in-game lineups with Castle at lead guard without Chris Paul, but his game doesn't mesh as well with Charles Bassey or Zach Collins as it does with Victor Wembanyama shocker!)
I'm interested in your thoughts on his shot profile. He's attacking the paint a ton for a rookie 91st percentile in rim rate but only shooting 59 percent on such shots. This is in conjunction with his intentional outside shooting (averaging four 3s a game while shooting just 27 percent). How should his game change in the second unit, or should it change at all?
Vecenie: His game shouldn't change that much, and I like him much more with Paul on the court than without him. I like him a bit more with the starters than with the bench unit. Castle isn't a point guard to me not at this stage, anyway. He profiles best as a secondary creator who plugs gaps and excels at everything that doesn't involve shooting and scoring. He's an awesome passer and a quick decision-maker, but I don't trust him yet to be able to break defenders down consistently and make great kickout passing reads every possession. He does those things at times, but it tends to work better for him when the defense is already shifted and he can attack existing creases. I also like his cutting ability and general off-ball movement; it's been a useful part of making him a usable offensive player despite the lack of shooting.
It's difficult to have both Sochan and Castle on the court together with Paul. In the 167 minutes Sochan and Castle have played together, the team has gotten blitzed, losing by more than 10 points while scoring less than 100 points per 100 possessions. Paul's addition has been superb this year, but he's still not going to be responsible for creating a ton of his own offense at this stage of his career, and Sochan and Castle can't shoot to help space the floor. In general, this Spurs roster as it's currently developing with the young guys they've chosen to prioritize is going to be a fascinating experiment, both in the power of shooting development after the draft and in the power of floor spacing from the 5 given that we have never seen a true big take as many 3s as Wembanyama before and force his defender away from the rim.
I like that Castle is getting the 3-point reps. I like that he's sharp and driving to the rim. But for his game to take the next step, shooting will be a big part of that.
Iko: Given that Castle has been more effective as an off guard and Paul's age should the Spurs still have a long-term plan to make Castle their lead ballhandler? Or is he better in a complementary role? Would chasing an established star (eg. De'Aaron Fox) makes more sense?
Vecenie: I'm fine with developing Castle as a lead ball-handler and giving him that chance early on. His ball skills are strong, he's good in ball screens and he's a sharp passer. But ultimately, he's probably going to profile best on the wing and playing as a secondary ball-handler. I'd be in favor of the Spurs chasing someone like Fox. That's probably a conversation for another day, but a player like Fox who can defend his own position and is an elite shot creator would do wonders for this team as it builds around Wembanyama.
Iko: How have you graded the other aspects of Castle's game?
Vecenie: I've loved Castle's game outside of the scoring. The big thing with him is that he processes the game quickly on both ends of the court. He's always in the right spot defensively in his rotations. He's aggressive and physical at the point of attack. He's switchable and tough, willing to body up when necessary on the interior. Offensively, he has a great understanding of space despite his shooting struggles. He knows the areas of the court he can cut into to create dangerous opportunities or force the defense to rotate toward his cut to open up another avenue for a teammate. He moves the ball quickly when he catches it and fires it around the horn. It never seems to stick with him. He makes quick decisions out of ball screens when required and when a teammate is open.
Castle is the kind of player you can win with. He proved it with Connecticut last year, and he's proving it this year with the Spurs. If the shooting comes along, he has a chance to be a valuable player with All-Star upside. But even if it doesn't get to the level he wants to reach, he'll still be able to fill all of the non-scoring gaps necessary across the court that winning teams require.
I'm interested in your thoughts on his shot profile. He's attacking the paint a ton for a rookie 91st percentile in rim rate but only shooting 59 percent on such shots. This is in conjunction with his intentional outside shooting (averaging four 3s a game while shooting just 27 percent). How should his game change in the second unit, or should it change at all?
Vecenie: His game shouldn't change that much, and I like him much more with Paul on the court than without him. I like him a bit more with the starters than with the bench unit. Castle isn't a point guard to me not at this stage, anyway. He profiles best as a secondary creator who plugs gaps and excels at everything that doesn't involve shooting and scoring. He's an awesome passer and a quick decision-maker, but I don't trust him yet to be able to break defenders down consistently and make great kickout passing reads every possession. He does those things at times, but it tends to work better for him when the defense is already shifted and he can attack existing creases. I also like his cutting ability and general off-ball movement; it's been a useful part of making him a usable offensive player despite the lack of shooting.
It's difficult to have both Sochan and Castle on the court together with Paul. In the 167 minutes Sochan and Castle have played together, the team has gotten blitzed, losing by more than 10 points while scoring less than 100 points per 100 possessions. Paul's addition has been superb this year, but he's still not going to be responsible for creating a ton of his own offense at this stage of his career, and Sochan and Castle can't shoot to help space the floor. In general, this Spurs roster as it's currently developing with the young guys they've chosen to prioritize is going to be a fascinating experiment, both in the power of shooting development after the draft and in the power of floor spacing from the 5 given that we have never seen a true big take as many 3s as Wembanyama before and force his defender away from the rim.
I like that Castle is getting the 3-point reps. I like that he's sharp and driving to the rim. But for his game to take the next step, shooting will be a big part of that.
Iko: Given that Castle has been more effective as an off guard and Paul's age should the Spurs still have a long-term plan to make Castle their lead ballhandler? Or is he better in a complementary role? Would chasing an established star (eg. De'Aaron Fox) makes more sense?
Vecenie: I'm fine with developing Castle as a lead ball-handler and giving him that chance early on. His ball skills are strong, he's good in ball screens and he's a sharp passer. But ultimately, he's probably going to profile best on the wing and playing as a secondary ball-handler. I'd be in favor of the Spurs chasing someone like Fox. That's probably a conversation for another day, but a player like Fox who can defend his own position and is an elite shot creator would do wonders for this team as it builds around Wembanyama.
Iko: How have you graded the other aspects of Castle's game?
Vecenie: I've loved Castle's game outside of the scoring. The big thing with him is that he processes the game quickly on both ends of the court. He's always in the right spot defensively in his rotations. He's aggressive and physical at the point of attack. He's switchable and tough, willing to body up when necessary on the interior. Offensively, he has a great understanding of space despite his shooting struggles. He knows the areas of the court he can cut into to create dangerous opportunities or force the defense to rotate toward his cut to open up another avenue for a teammate. He moves the ball quickly when he catches it and fires it around the horn. It never seems to stick with him. He makes quick decisions out of ball screens when required and when a teammate is open.
Castle is the kind of player you can win with. He proved it with Connecticut last year, and he's proving it this year with the Spurs. If the shooting comes along, he has a chance to be a valuable player with All-Star upside. But even if it doesn't get to the level he wants to reach, he'll still be able to fill all of the non-scoring gaps necessary across the court that winning teams require.
JJJ somehow wins defensive player of the month on 1.6 blocks and 1.6 steals. Meanwhile Wemby has over 5 stocks and a better defensive rating. Who votes for these things?
More Castle minutes, especially with the starting group, are only going to help this team. I agree that his fit with Sochan currently isn't the best on offense due to both of their limitations. Particularly with an undersized Paul that is inconsistent on offense.
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The San Antonio Spurs, Miami Heat and Los Angeles Lakers top the list of teams that are most often discussed as possible Fox landing spots, with others sure to make a run at him if (when?) he's truly on the market.
The Orlando Magic, for example, are known to be contemplating a pursuit. The Houston Rockets, who want to analyze their current core through this season but could be in the market for another All-Star-caliber player this summer, are also known to be intrigued by the idea of partnering with Fox, who is a Houston native. Make no mistake, though: the Spurs noise is the loudest.
I just have a tough time seeing the Spurs going all in on a guy that just got former Spurs coach Mike Brown fired, is a Klutch/Rich Paul client and wants a 5y345M 35% max contract even though he's probably a 25-30% guy at best.Enzo The Baker said:
Per NY TimesQuote:
The San Antonio Spurs, Miami Heat and Los Angeles Lakers top the list of teams that are most often discussed as possible Fox landing spots, with others sure to make a run at him if (when?) he's truly on the market.
The Orlando Magic, for example, are known to be contemplating a pursuit. The Houston Rockets, who want to analyze their current core through this season but could be in the market for another All-Star-caliber player this summer, are also known to be intrigued by the idea of partnering with Fox, who is a Houston native. Make no mistake, though: the Spurs noise is the loudest.
In any event, I think we wait until after the season to make a major move. But if we can talk Fox into a 30% 5y deal and not let them have Castle or Sochan, I could be in.
Pretty much the entirety of Anthony Edwards's postgame media was him talking about his frustration with the way teams are putting two on him, taking away his opportunities to be a scorer and forcing him to get off the ball.
— Dane Moore (@DaneMooreNBA) January 3, 2025
"It's not how I want to play, of course. I'm only 23, I… pic.twitter.com/7bJdFS6zeU
I appreciate Wemby even more every time I hear Ant talk.
Those two Wolves picks are going to be amazing.
Guitarsoup said:Pretty much the entirety of Anthony Edwards's postgame media was him talking about his frustration with the way teams are putting two on him, taking away his opportunities to be a scorer and forcing him to get off the ball.
— Dane Moore (@DaneMooreNBA) January 3, 2025
"It's not how I want to play, of course. I'm only 23, I… pic.twitter.com/7bJdFS6zeU
I appreciate Wemby even more every time I hear Ant talk.
Those two Wolves picks are going to be amazing.
But at the same time…I mean an Edwards/Wemby combo would be basically unstoppable. We have their assets to make something eventually happen. I don't like his attitude, don't get me wrong. But an Ant #2 would be absurd.
Together they would be insane from a basketball standpoint, especially since he is shooting 41% this year. How would he handle being Robin to Wemby's batman? Would he even realize he is Robin?Enzo The Baker said:Guitarsoup said:Pretty much the entirety of Anthony Edwards's postgame media was him talking about his frustration with the way teams are putting two on him, taking away his opportunities to be a scorer and forcing him to get off the ball.
— Dane Moore (@DaneMooreNBA) January 3, 2025
"It's not how I want to play, of course. I'm only 23, I… pic.twitter.com/7bJdFS6zeU
I appreciate Wemby even more every time I hear Ant talk.
Those two Wolves picks are going to be amazing.
But at the same time…I mean an Edwards/Wemby combo would be basically unstoppable. We have their assets to make something eventually happen. I don't like his attitude, don't get me wrong. But an Ant #2 would be absurd.
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Here's the list of players who have averaged at least 29-10-4-4 over any 19-game stretch:
- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar did it during the 1975-76 season. He was 28 and in his seventh year in the NBA.
- David Robinson did it during the 1993-94 season. He was also 28 and in his fifth season.
- Wemby this season. Again, he's turning 21 on Saturday and isn't even halfway through his second season.
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Let's say Wemby's averages of 25.6 points, 10.0 rebounds, 3.9 assists and 3.9 blocks hold for the season. At that point, we're not talking about sophomores in the NBA or just comparing 100-game starts. In the history of the league, he'd be only the third player to average at least 25-10-3-3 for an entire season at any age. Abdul-Jabbar did it twice at 26 and 28. Olajuwon also achieved the feat twice, doing so at 30 and 31.
Guitarsoup said:Quote:
Here's the list of players who have averaged at least 29-10-4-4 over any 19-game stretch:
- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar did it during the 1975-76 season. He was 28 and in his seventh year in the NBA.
- David Robinson did it during the 1993-94 season. He was also 28 and in his fifth season.
- Wemby this season. Again, he's turning 21 on Saturday and isn't even halfway through his second season.
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Let's say Wemby's averages of 25.6 points, 10.0 rebounds, 3.9 assists and 3.9 blocks hold for the season. At that point, we're not talking about sophomores in the NBA or just comparing 100-game starts. In the history of the league, he'd be only the third player to average at least 25-10-3-3 for an entire season at any age. Abdul-Jabbar did it twice at 26 and 28. Olajuwon also achieved the feat twice, doing so at 30 and 31.
What article did that come from? Would like to read it if you have it.
the Athletic did one about Wemby's 100th game tonight.aggieactor01 said:Guitarsoup said:Quote:
Here's the list of players who have averaged at least 29-10-4-4 over any 19-game stretch:
- Kareem Abdul-Jabbar did it during the 1975-76 season. He was 28 and in his seventh year in the NBA.
- David Robinson did it during the 1993-94 season. He was also 28 and in his fifth season.
- Wemby this season. Again, he's turning 21 on Saturday and isn't even halfway through his second season.
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Let's say Wemby's averages of 25.6 points, 10.0 rebounds, 3.9 assists and 3.9 blocks hold for the season. At that point, we're not talking about sophomores in the NBA or just comparing 100-game starts. In the history of the league, he'd be only the third player to average at least 25-10-3-3 for an entire season at any age. Abdul-Jabbar did it twice at 26 and 28. Olajuwon also achieved the feat twice, doing so at 30 and 31.
What article did that come from? Would like to read it if you have it.
Those were the highlights. I thought the rest was meh.
Thanks Soup. I'll take a look!
Anyone care to explain Vassell standing out there watching the clock run down to end the first half? That's the kind of low bball IQ crap I expect out of KJ.
Steph did a nice job baiting Brodie there into a foul.
Didn't see Vassell wind it down, FTAG
Didn't see Vassell wind it down, FTAG
DEVIN VASSELL POSTER OMG 🤯 pic.twitter.com/LPy5XdPlot
— WembyMuse (@Wemby_Muse) January 4, 2025
Need some more of this. I WANT SOME NASTY
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