***********2024-2025 San Antonio Spurs Thread********************

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Trade Keldon, Collins, the Bulls pick and the Charlotte pick for him .

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This seems like way too much for one player, just my opinion and especially having to give up Sochan

No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
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The Kings are out of their mind if they think Fox is worth anywhere near that
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All I do is Nguyen said:

This seems like way too much for one player, just my opinion and especially having to give up Sochan




There's no chance. Our 26 pick is tied into an Atlanta swap so we aren't swapping it. They would include the Chicago pick instead

This was written by someone that doesn't really understand our draft capital

Plus the math doesn't come close to matching.

Avoid Dusty Garza/SpursReport in general. He's a leech
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Yeah that's just clickbait if anything. However, I would do that deal tomorrow if it was legitimate.
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What a turd. There's no chance we trade a 2025 pick. This draft is loaded.
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In that scenario (which has no credibility), that would be the 2025 bulls pick which is top 10 protected. The Spurs would still retain their own 2025 pick and the 2025 Hawks pick. The Spurs are going to have to move one of these at some point. They aren't taking three guys in the first round next year.
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Sher Thing said:

In that scenario (which has no credibility), that would be the 2025 bulls pick which is top 10 protected. The Spurs would still retain their own 2025 pick and the 2025 Hawks pick. The Spurs are going to have to move one of these at some point. They aren't taking three guys in the first round next year.

Unless they think the Fox/Wemby combo is enough, they will sit on those picks until the draft order is decided and the player pool is set. The more these teams think that the "loaded" 2025 is the cure to their problems, the more valuable the picks. I say "loaded" because it's loaded with prospects. NBA draft is a crapshoot.
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Well there is a good chance the Bulls pick doesn't even convey this year so I would argue that moving that pick now for a proven commodity is actually preferable. Another reason why that Bleacher Report trade makes no sense.
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Sher Thing said:

Well there is a good chance the Bulls pick doesn't even convey this year so I would argue that moving that pick now for a proven commodity is actually preferable. Another reason why that Bleacher Report trade makes no sense.

Yea. Despite not knowing how trading a swap works, I wouldn't be opposed to doing this deal if Fox doesn't get the super max. That Chicago pick is not going to convey. They are going to do everything they can to keep that pick. All indications are they will break up their group and rebuild. I think it's a fair deal.

Edit: I will add that I would prefer them to do this in the offseason so we can get the 'best' draft pick possible this year. From what I understand, after the top 7 or so, the talent really falls off. Like worse than last year.
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Sher Thing said:

Well there is a good chance the Bulls pick doesn't even convey this year so I would argue that moving that pick now for a proven commodity is actually preferable. Another reason why that Bleacher Report trade makes no sense.
I think that's why you will see them sit on the pick. The other side of the trade is someone receiving that pick, and I doubt anyone wants to risk it. Might as well hold on unless there is a toy available that must have.
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Enzo The Baker said:

Sher Thing said:

Well there is a good chance the Bulls pick doesn't even convey this year so I would argue that moving that pick now for a proven commodity is actually preferable. Another reason why that Bleacher Report trade makes no sense.

Yea. Despite not knowing how trading a swap works, I wouldn't be opposed to doing this deal if Fox doesn't get the super max. That Chicago pick is not going to convey. They are going to do everything they can to keep that pick. All indications are they will break up their group and rebuild. I think it's a fair deal.

Edit: I will add that I would prefer them to do this in the offseason so we can get the 'best' draft pick possible this year. From what I understand, after the top 7 or so, the talent really falls off. Like worse than last year.
If Fox gets traded to us, I don't think he can get the SuperMax. That was the thing with Kawhi - if we traded him, Toronto couldn't give him the SuperMax, which is why he lost a significant amount of money and is the only player to turn down the Supermax and demand the trade out, because Uncle Dennis is the dumbest ***** alive.

Otherwise, they have to wait a year after signing the supermax extension to be traded.

In any event, I think the trade looks dumb. They aren't trading Fox for Sochan, two firsts and a swap.

The other thing is that if we trade with Sacramento, they are 100% demanding that 2031 unprotected swap back so they can have their own picks. No deal with them gets done without them getting that back.



I think something like this is more likely if we did a trade like this. They get Devin's declining contract, the Bulls pick, the Spurs 25 and 27 picks, and their swap back. They save money now and clear Heurter's contract. Second round picks sprinkled in.

We still have all the Atlanta Picks and Minnesota picks, plus have at least one draft pick every season.

We give Fox the 4y30% max contract.
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Cool article about Wemby's progress in passing, his vision and has a lot of great videos.

https://theringer.com/2025/01/08/nba/victor-wembanyama-assists-san-antonio-spurs

Wembanyama strode into the league with selfless tendencies and a natural appreciation for getting others involved. But the ability to leverage defensive attention and then consistently spin it into a positive outcome for someone else often takes years for a star guard to developlet alone a centerand ultimately separates great offensive players from ones we won't ever forget. Right now Wembanyama is showing why he's on the latter path.

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In NBA history, only three centers (Alvan Adams, Bill Walton, and Brad Daugherty) have assisted more baskets in their first 102 games than Wembanyama. In December, he averaged 7.8 potential assists per gamethe most through any month in his careerand showed off all the ways he can decode defensive matchups and strategies that are designed to test his patience and make him think.

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"He's able to make passes that you really only see certain guys make in the entire NBA. He's able to make pocket passes as a 7-5 player. He's able to make skips across the court. He goes up for jump shots and sees guys in his peripheral," Jones says. "I think the best way to describe it is it's just a gift that was given to him from God."

 
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