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ok the bad behavior is one thing but if the AD tries to tell players they can't protest, you're asking them to infringe on many of their basic rights... i'm assuming you don't really want your money to be used to infringe on someone's rights?

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You seem overly concerned for and ready to defend these few player's "rights to call the all Sully supporters, donors, and Corps members racists". That is painting with a broad brush.
Although I definitely do not oppose protesting , Protesting is not always going to produce the desired response (loss of donor monies). But hey- its only a few that are inflicting harm on our University so its ok, especially if they are good athletes! Wrong

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i'm not sure what you mean by overly concerned, but i didn't really follow the rest of your post either.

listen, anyone can do anything they want with their money. i was just surprised to see someone say that "protests must be disallowed" in order for them to donate so i was curious if they really meant they wanted the AD stop players from exercise their rights.

and just for the record: the "few" have zero power to hurt the university off the field. as many have pointed out, the folks with all the power are the doners so... who can cause the harm?

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If what the athletes are saying are not in holding with the standards of the organization, then by all means they should be disavowed. If what the athletes are saying is the belief system espoused by the organization, then be prepared for the consequences.

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The only true action is to eliminate all sports. Send them home. Yes, end it all and maybe we can start over in a few years. This is the only way to kill this attitude of privilege. They do not respect the University or it legacy . Most of them will never graduate with any useful degree and will also never contribute back. Even the pro athletes who have done well have never contributed back in proportion to what a regular non athlete graduate has.

By the way my donations are 60 k per year and will now go to zero, ZERO, ZERO.

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You want to give ourselves the death penalty... because a group of students think differently than you, with two or three behaving badly. you should check your language: "most of them" and "they". Talk about painting with broad strokes.

if things really do go downhill for the AD, we'll all know who abandoned who because they pitched a fit. I guess
I thought the same traits that help a person become successful would be on display here. Thick skin, strong character... but I guess that's my naivety projecting idealistic traits onto the actual BMAs...

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No one has ever asked the student athletes to change how they think. NOT ONE TIME.

This is about what they said and did and continue to do. This is about their coaches and AD staying silent.

It seems "Bjork" has become a verb...as to "bjork" something. To bjork: taking something that was progressing nicely and screw it up beyond all recognition and possible redemption.

Yeah, I am thinking of the scene from Tommy Boy "Killed my sale". Bjork something up.

It's probably already been said in this thread, but I am not angry or surprised that QB1 or any other college student or athlete would say things on social media that I don't agree with. I expect that from social media. He has every right to state his opinion and I respect that. However, our Athletic Director should have realized that his responsibility is to manage the budget and therefore the funding of the athletic department and he made an egregious error in judgement when he supported things that our alumni base do not agree with.

What is frustrating is that the administration of the university that I have been associated with for over 40 years appear to be heading us down a path that I have no intention of following. I went to A&M because it was not like all of the other options, similar to what most of the alumni over 30 years old can say. Athletically, we were under the shadow of tu and would have always been there if they had their way, so athletics was much more for the involvement of participating as a fan. I don't think any of us attended A&M because of the athletic prowess of our athletic programs, even now. Athletics is not the most important thing about A&M which is why Jimbo sells kids that they are making a 40 year decision if they come here to school. That has not changed.

My hope is that this process will cause the leadership of our university to re-think who leads us and how they lead and how important it is for their values to line up with the values this university was founded on. They should never forget the the majority of the alumni base attended our university because of conservative values which are the result of Texas A&M having its roots as a military institution. That should never go away, IMHO.

This university and most of our alumni are not like all the rest. We chose to come and join the best institution in the country because of the things that this university stands for, not in spite of them.

Get young to donate the $1200 he owes somebody.

From the new Priority Point Bonus Scheme Program:

"Note: Season ticket holders who retain their 2020 season tickets as well as those whose season tickets are canceled due to COVID-related concerns will be eligible to renew their seats for the 2021 season. Priority point bonus information and refund options for the 2020 season will be available upon request."


I think that is pretty low brow to have that info. available upon request. Once it is decided games are cancelled, attendance limited, tickets not available, etc. IMHO it is incumbent upon the TMF to proactively publish that information and forward to the donors. Donors have paid $$ for donation and season tickets based on 7 home games being played at Kyle Field, period. If there are less games, attendance is limited, a donor cannot be accommodated seats for a game, etc. a refund or credit needs to be offered and THEN ask for the $$ already be paid to be donated.

What they are doing is essentially you go to pay for a product or service, that product or service is never given/delivered/fulfilled, and you then need to ASK for your $ back instead of just losing the $ altogether.

The TMF has a much bigger balance sheet than 99% of donors and many more revenue streams. Personally, I will need back every $.01 of donation and ST $ for any cancelled games, etc.

The TMF should be above such antics.

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You're comparing allowing protests to Enron?

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He's comparing our athletic program and its funding to Enron.

And based on the last couple of pleas from Bjork and the TMF, they're not doing much to dispel that comparison.

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They're completely different situations. If you guys are so offended by what has transpired over the last couple of weeks, then please do what you have have been virtue signaling about and actually leave the A&M system. You clearly do not want to be apart of it. So spend all that money you love to flaunt about virtually and do something else with your lives.

Or support Texas A&M athletics.

Gig em.

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I've been to hundreds of A&M football games dating back to 1968. Living in B/CS all but 7 years, I've also been to hundreds more basketball and baseball games. I'll take my own advice thank you, not someone else's, especially one who thinks this about "virtue signaling". If that's what you think this is, you're oblivious to what's going on here. People are withholding their money because they're fed up, and they don't give a howdy flip if someone else sees it and makes them look cool. The reaction is visceral, it's not for show. If things change, we'll be back. If they don't, we'll be doing other things.

The TMF has a priority points system. Well, so do I, and several other things have moved ahead of A&M athletics.

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Great response!

Hey Bubba..... yeah you, without an Ag Tag, trolling us all.

First, if you think we're all morons, then you must think you're NOT a moron....... or even worse, that you're a genius. So, I'll make you a deal. If you're so smart, post a pic of your current MENSA Membership Card, or just give me your Membership Number, and if I can verify you are indeed a member, then I'll post a pic of my MENSA Membership Card............... Don't question others intelligence, until you've proven you have some yourself.


Second, you have no idea how much anyone on this board has, or has not, contributed to TMF, TAMU, or other TAMU-related organizations and projects. So....... tell us all..... how much have you contributed ????

Cutting off contributions are just step 1. Step 2 is DO NOT GO TO KYLE in the fall (if they have football). DO NOT WATCH IT ON TV. DO NOT BUY MERCHANDISE. Not another dime means exactly that. Follow through folks.

Just my two cents...

I did not leave A&M
A&M left me

Tony buzbee just announced he's not renewing his suite for the year due to the mond bs. So yeah, it's just us dumbass racists not sending in our $100 donations.

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Tony buzbee just announced he's not renewing his suite for the year due to the mond bs. So yeah, it's just us dumbass racists not sending in our $100 donations.

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Good for him! Maybe some of these BMA's start pulling the big bucks and these people will wake up!

It's kind of a catch 22, I don't want to see A&M harmed in any way but I do think a message needs to be sent to the folks running this place and they should at least address these matters.

This may be the first , but not the last BMA to pull in the reins on donations. I do not understand why some here have a such a hard time why this is happening. It wasn't just a retweet, it was a cumulative of some of the athletes as well as administrators actions and statements (or lack thereof).