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Love the mentality of the majority of our alumni! Very proud

The time has come to show everyone who wields the power and how privileged our athletes are.

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If you think message board warriors represent the mentality of the majority of our alumni you couldn't be more mistaken. Its too easy to hide behind the anonymity this gives us. There are a lot of people that don't agree with this "mentality" they just don't want to feel like the odd man out when seemingly the majority feel a certain way.

May be. I felt this way before I came on TexAgs. So I'm happy to see so many that feel the same. It's not just A&M for me. No one gets another dollar from me that supports this communist ***** Realistically, I know some things are unavoidable, but what I can cut has been cut.

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Love the mentality of the majority of our alumni! Very proud

The time has come to show everyone who wields the power and how privileged our athletes are.

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If you think message board warriors represent the mentality of the majority of our alumni you couldn't be more mistaken. Its too easy to hide behind the anonymity this gives us. There are a lot of people that don't agree with this "mentality" they just don't want to feel like the odd man out when seemingly the majority feel a certain way.

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Haven't seen much evidence of people being afraid to share their opinion.

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Love the mentality of the majority of our alumni! Very proud

The time has come to show everyone who wields the power and how privileged our athletes are.

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If you think message board warriors represent the mentality of the majority of our alumni you couldn't be more mistaken. Its too easy to hide behind the anonymity this gives us. There are a lot of people that don't agree with this "mentality" they just don't want to feel like the odd man out when seemingly the majority feel a certain way.

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I think it is you who might be surprised what the majority thinks.....

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Love the mentality of the majority of our alumni! Very proud

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If you think message board warriors represent the mentality of the majority of our alumni you couldn't be more mistaken. Its too easy to hide behind the anonymity this gives us. There are a lot of people that don't agree with this "mentality" they just don't want to feel like the odd man out when seemingly the majority feel a certain way.

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My experience isn't representative either but anecdotally some of my most liberal friends are Aggies, born and raised in the heart of East Texas. Texags echo chamber most certainly doesn't represent all former students.

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Care to explain how?

I'm pretty sure you don't, because I'm right.

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Withholding donations is not cancel culture. You CLEARLY don't grasp the concept.

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Oh the irony

"WHAT DOES CANCEL CULTURE MEAN?

Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming."

I guess because it doesn't say "university" you can't grasp how this fits exactly....canceling donations because you don't agree with Mond's opinions or the opinions of the administration. I mean, this couldn't be a more perfect fit.....most of the people on this thread aren't talking about pulling donations because of a poor product. Almost everything I've read Is because they don't agree with people's opinions or personal actions. I won't even attempt to help you understand that a message board is a form of social media, and what people are trying to do is definitely group shaming mond. That would just blow your mind.

I have no problem with people pulling their personal funds for whatever reason they choose. But I still find it very entertaining watching people's hypocrisy (and there's so much of it these days). I tend to observe that the people that scream the most about "snowflakes" and the horror's of "cancel culture", etc, are big snowflakes themselves who get very offended at the slightest difference of opinion.....and then many go right to cancel culture behavior (but it's different when they do it).

Nope. No thank you. I am not coming back. I am done.

Have a nice Fall 2020.

I'm not withholding my money and trying to cancel anything. I'm diverting my funding to the Corp since there is a movement out there calling for their defunding.

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I'm not withholding my money and trying to cancel anything. I'm diverting my funding to the Corp since there is a movement out there calling for their defunding.

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I wasn't in the Corps, but that's a damned good idea... and a FAR better use of your money if you want to make a positive impact on society and Texas A&M University.

More people need to get over the idea of a winning or losing football team having any impact on how they feel about Texas A&M. Seems to me that way too many people get caught up in how they feel about Texas A&M based on how our football team does, and that needs to stop. We are by FAR not the only alumni base that gets caught up in that, I get it.

But I am 100% to the point where how our athletic teams do on the field has zero impact on how I feel about my University. We need to all start giving more money to academics, the Corps of Cadets, etc and far less on athletes.

You can hang any name on it you want to. It won't affect my feelings in any way. It's still my money that I earned. I'll spend it or withhold it as only I wish.

You very much misunderstand the difference.

The cancel culture wants everyone else to act on their opinion and cancel those with an opposing viewpoint. We, on the other hand, only want to react on our own to those that we differ from while still welcoming the fact that others hold differing viewpoints.

People aren't pulling funds and actively trying to ruin someone's career or life. Just withdrawing funds.

Too bad communist aren't generous with their own money. #goodluck

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People aren't pulling funds and actively trying to ruin someone's career or life. Just withdrawing funds.

Too bad communist aren't generous with their own money. #goodluck

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That's because they don't have their own money. Every dollar they have is someone else's.

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I'm not withholding my money and trying to cancel anything. I'm diverting my funding to the Corp since there is a movement out there calling for their defunding.

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Has there been something else besides the single tweet and retweet from a month ago? I'm not sure how we are defining "movement" these days?

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Care to explain how?

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Withholding donations is not cancel culture. You CLEARLY don't grasp the concept.

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Oh the irony

"WHAT DOES CANCEL CULTURE MEAN?

Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming."

I guess because it doesn't say "university" you can't grasp how this fits exactly....canceling donations because you don't agree with Mond's opinions or the opinions of the administration. I mean, this couldn't be a more perfect fit.....most of the people on this thread aren't talking about pulling donations because of a poor product. Almost everything I've read Is because they don't agree with people's opinions or personal actions. I won't even attempt to help you understand that a message board is a form of social media, and what people are trying to do is definitely group shaming mond. That would just blow your mind.

I have no problem with people pulling their personal funds for whatever reason they choose. But I still find it very entertaining watching people's hypocrisy (and there's so much of it these days). I tend to observe that the people that scream the most about "snowflakes" and the horror's of "cancel culture", etc, are big snowflakes themselves who get very offended at the slightest difference of opinion.....and then many go right to cancel culture behavior (but it's different when they do it).

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Obviously you haven't read the thread, or if you have, you have failed to comprehend what people are saying. I don't think many conservative minded Aggies were ever under the impression that the majority of the football team shared the same opinions on the political topics of the day. Where the line got crossed, IMHO, is when the starting QB labeled a large swath of fans as racists. Then he got backed up by many other players and the AD. Add to that the various tweets/retweets/likes or whatever that I don't care to rehash, the fake hate crime hoax and university reaction, along with the pretty ridiculous behavior by some at the protest, and you have people choosing not to DONATE their own money to support the organization. Agreeing/disagreeing on Sully is one thing, and there's plenty of room to discuss that, up until anyone with a differing opinion gets labeled a racist.

In no way is it cancel culture, no matter how much you think you have conservatives in a cute little gotcha moment.

Who on earth would want to waste their time reading this idiotic 14 page thread about nothing. I doubt anyone here has given more than $100 to our beloved A&M. *****s

Texags actually thinks anti sully is the cause for the current donor situation?? Corona is destroying the economy

Aggie jokes write themselves at times... sadly

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Texags actually thinks anti sully is the cause for the current donor situation?? Corona is destroying the economy

Aggie jokes write themselves at times... sadly

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Would you expect the drop for A&M donors to be proportional/similar in % than other schools... Less... or More?

Say, last year we were at $50M donations. Let's say at other P5 schools they see a 50% cut in donations raised. Would you expect A&M to be at $25M, more, or less?

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Do you have actual numbers of donations from all the other P5 programs?

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Texags actually thinks anti sully is the cause for the current donor situation?? Corona is destroying the economy

Aggie jokes write themselves at times... sadly

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You're right, Buzbee was really hit hard by COVID

The mental gymnastics are pretty great.

"Nuh uh, we're not part of cancel culture! We just don't like what they're saying so we're not giving them money anymore!"

Oh, OK.

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The mental gymnastics are pretty great.

"Nuh uh, we're not part of cancel culture! We just don't like what they're saying so we're not giving them money anymore!"

Oh, OK.

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I don't see petition drives to get everyone else to stop giving money to the Athletic Department. I don't see protests in front of the Athletic Department to demand the world stops giving them money. I haven't seen anyone DEMANDING that you stop giving money to the Athletic Department. I don't see people here doxxing major donors in order to shame them into not giving money to the Athletic Department.

I see people making personal decisions to find other uses for their money. Nobody is telling YOU not to and that you're a bad human being if you don't. You're free to spend your money as you feel fit, as are the rest of us. "Cancel Culture" doesn't believe that everyone has a right to spend money as they see fit. They DEMAND that you see things THEIR way and behave accordingly. Nobody here is telling you that you're a crappy person if you keep donating to the 12th Man Foundation.

Sorry you can't see the difference.

Corona will be blamed for any donation decreases until Corona is over. At least publicly. And possibly be even after that.

Like cord cutting was blamed for ESPN's woes, until recently.

If this politicization of sports continues, $$ support will get worse before it gets better; assuming it ever will get better.

I have to say, I no longer miss the NFL nor have any desire to watch it or even follow it since turning it off 3 seasons ago.


It's a practical matter really. If you take a position, you're going to anger about half of your customers.

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Care to explain how?

I'm pretty sure you don't, because I'm right.

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Withholding donations is not cancel culture. You CLEARLY don't grasp the concept.

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Oh the irony

"WHAT DOES CANCEL CULTURE MEAN?

Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming."

I guess because it doesn't say "university" you can't grasp how this fits exactly....canceling donations because you don't agree with Mond's opinions or the opinions of the administration. I mean, this couldn't be a more perfect fit.....most of the people on this thread aren't talking about pulling donations because of a poor product. Almost everything I've read Is because they don't agree with people's opinions or personal actions. I won't even attempt to help you understand that a message board is a form of social media, and what people are trying to do is definitely group shaming mond. That would just blow your mind.

I have no problem with people pulling their personal funds for whatever reason they choose. But I still find it very entertaining watching people's hypocrisy (and there's so much of it these days). I tend to observe that the people that scream the most about "snowflakes" and the horror's of "cancel culture", etc, are big snowflakes themselves who get very offended at the slightest difference of opinion.....and then many go right to cancel culture behavior (but it's different when they do it).

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Cancel culture is the religion of today imposed by modern "church ladies".

It wasn't right years ago when Bible thumper's went around yelling "sinner" at people - banning books and music that they felt were hateful, wrong, or evil - "you can't say this, you shouldn't listen to that"... Sure their intentions were good in their own eyes, but it isn't right when the vocal majority enforced their ideas on others.

It's no more right today when the progressive left yell "racist" "misogynist""privileged" "climate denier" etc.. at people - removing posts and videos on topics they feel are hateful, fake news, or just don't like - "you can't say this, you shouldn't watch that video..." Sure their intentions are good in their own eyes, but it isn't right when the vocal majority enforces their ideas on others.

Choosing to spend your money wherever you want is called freedom and capitalism.
Defacing and tearing down buildings or statues built with other peoples money is called anarchy and are the seeds of Marxism.

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Corona will be blamed for any donation decreases until Corona is over. At least publicly. And possibly be even after that.

Like cord cutting was blamed for ESPN's woes, until recently.

If this politicization of sports continues, $$ support will get worse before it gets better; assuming it ever will get better.

I have to say, I no longer miss the NFL nor have any desire to watch it or even follow it since turning it off 3 seasons ago.


It's a practical matter really. If you take a position, you're going to anger about half of your customers.

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Correct, because people lost jobs, hours etc.

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Corona will be blamed for any donation decreases until Corona is over. At least publicly. And possibly be even after that.

Like cord cutting was blamed for ESPN's woes, until recently.

If this politicization of sports continues, $$ support will get worse before it gets better; assuming it ever will get better.

I have to say, I no longer miss the NFL nor have any desire to watch it or even follow it since turning it off 3 seasons ago.


It's a practical matter really. If you take a position, you're going to anger about half of your customers.

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Correct, because people lost jobs, hours etc.

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I don't think Tony Buzbee is cutting back on expenses, hurting for funds, or lost his job.

The Covid excuse doesnt hold water to those in private suites.

If you don't think Mond's actions (along with his likes and tweets of anti-Semitic posts) and the behavior of several other of our student athletes; as well as, Bjork's approval of their actions haven't turned off a lot of donors, then you are in denial

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Irony on top of the irony. Here, I'll try to help you out, and if you still don't see that this is playing out right here on this thread......well....

"WHAT DOES CANCEL CULTURE MEAN?

Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming."

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Choosing not to associate with people who hate you is not "cancel culture"

Trying to prevent that person from associating with anyone else, trying to get them deplatformed, trying to get them fired from their job, or otherwise ruin their life -- that is "cancel culture". HTH.

It is my money that I have worked for and as of today I chose not to give it to TAMU.
It is really easy if you want to.
Just call the ticket office and ask for a complete refund as I did today.

I will now use that money in a different path of my choosing.

#NADA

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Irony on top of the irony. Here, I'll try to help you out, and if you still don't see that this is playing out right here on this thread......well....

"WHAT DOES CANCEL CULTURE MEAN?

Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming."

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Choosing not to associate with people who hate you is not "cancel culture"

Trying to prevent that person from associating with anyone else, trying to get them deplatformed, trying to get them fired from their job, or otherwise ruin their life -- that is "cancel culture". HTH.

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Agreed. And many people on this board have said they will not donate again until Mond is gone one way or the other. So?

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Irony on top of the irony. Here, I'll try to help you out, and if you still don't see that this is playing out right here on this thread......well....

"WHAT DOES CANCEL CULTURE MEAN?

Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming."

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Choosing not to associate with people who hate you is not "cancel culture"

Trying to prevent that person from associating with anyone else, trying to get them deplatformed, trying to get them fired from their job, or otherwise ruin their life -- that is "cancel culture". HTH.

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Agreed. And many people on this board have said they will not donate again until Mond is gone one way or the other. So?

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So they are not contributing to "cancel culture". They are practicing free association.

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Irony on top of the irony. Here, I'll try to help you out, and if you still don't see that this is playing out right here on this thread......well....

"WHAT DOES CANCEL CULTURE MEAN?

Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming."

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Choosing not to associate with people who hate you is not "cancel culture"

Trying to prevent that person from associating with anyone else, trying to get them deplatformed, trying to get them fired from their job, or otherwise ruin their life -- that is "cancel culture". HTH.

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Agreed. And many people on this board have said they will not donate again until Mond is gone one way or the other. So?

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So they are not contributing to "cancel culture". They are practicing free association.

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Well we can play games with the particulars I guess, but How is calling for someone to be cut or benched different than calling for someone to be fired? How about calling for "half the offensive line" to give him the remember the Titans treatment?

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Well stated!

Success or failure by Texas A&M sports teams does not determine the success or failure of Texas A&M University. It also does not determine the value of our Aggie college degrees and Aggie rings.

Gig 'em!

Yep. How proud I am to have a Texas A&M diploma on my wall and Aggie ring has zero to do with how our athletic teams perform.

Agreed. I hope this goes without saying for every Ag, no matter how they feel about the current situations...

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Irony on top of the irony. Here, I'll try to help you out, and if you still don't see that this is playing out right here on this thread......well....

"WHAT DOES CANCEL CULTURE MEAN?

Cancel culture refers to the popular practice of withdrawing support for (canceling) public figures and companies after they have done or said something considered objectionable or offensive. Cancel culture is generally discussed as being performed on social media in the form of group shaming."

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Choosing not to associate with people who hate you is not "cancel culture"

Trying to prevent that person from associating with anyone else, trying to get them deplatformed, trying to get them fired from their job, or otherwise ruin their life -- that is "cancel culture". HTH.

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Agreed. And many people on this board have said they will not donate again until Mond is gone one way or the other. So?

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So they are not contributing to "cancel culture". They are practicing free association.

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Well we can play games with the particulars I guess, but How is calling for someone to be cut or benched different than calling for someone to be fired? How about calling for "half the offensive line" to give him the remember the Titans treatment?

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It is a fine line, but I think a clear one. If a donor e-mailed the athletic department and tried to pressure them to cut/bench Mond due to his political opinions, I think that would be "cancel culture". Simply choosing not to associate (donate) to a person/organization, without trying to otherwise punish them, is free association.