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What will happen if our leadership makes our QB apologize or become less blm? I'll tell you what. Bjork or whoever decides to go down that road will be eviscerated by the left and out of a job. Forced to resign or fired.

Then no black players will ever come play for the racist people at A&M.

I think they are doing what they have to do. Ride it out and try to keep as many folks happy as possible

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I certainly don't envy Bjork et al

GumboMaverick said:

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What will happen if our leadership makes our QB apologize or become less blm? I'll tell you what. Bjork or whoever decides to go down that road will be eviscerated by the left and out of a job. Forced to resign or fired.

Then no black players will ever come play for the racist people at A&M.

I think they are doing what they have to do. Ride it out and try to keep as many folks happy as possible

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It seems they are doing a terrible job because from all appearances no one is happy. Players think they play for a racist university and supporting students alumni and fans are the problem. Sprinkle in a little hatred for the Corp and the only thing missing is some bs about Reveille needing to change her name because racism. Unfortunately on some issues you can't straddle the fence and you have to take a stand for what's right. That takes leadership and that is sorely missing right now. I do understand your sentiment but they chose poorly

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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GumboMaverick said:

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What will happen if our leadership makes our QB apologize or become less blm? I'll tell you what. Bjork or whoever decides to go down that road will be eviscerated by the left and out of a job. Forced to resign or fired.

Then no black players will ever come play for the racist people at A&M.

I think they are doing what they have to do. Ride it out and try to keep as many folks happy as possible

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It seems they are doing a terrible job because from all appearances no one is happy. Players think they play for a racist university and supporting students alumni and fans are the problem. Sprinkle in a little hatred for the Corp and the only thing missing is some bs about Reveille needing to change her name because racism. Unfortunately on some issues you can't straddle the fence and you have to take a stand for what's right. That takes leadership and that is sorely missing right now. I do understand your sentiment but they chose poorly

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Bingo. How hard is this to figure out? Apparently hard because those who make 5 figure salaries have no f'ng clue.

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GumboMaverick said:

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What will happen if our leadership makes our QB apologize or become less blm? I'll tell you what. Bjork or whoever decides to go down that road will be eviscerated by the left and out of a job. Forced to resign or fired.

Then no black players will ever come play for the racist people at A&M.

I think they are doing what they have to do. Ride it out and try to keep as many folks happy as possible

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I certainly don't envy Bjork et al

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Bjork brought this upon himself. The guy went and tweeted that he was proud of Mond's Sully protest. Tone deaf!!!!

Also, this was the same protest that two student athletes cursed at some peaceful old Ags and tried to fight one.

The guy lacks awareness and made a really dumb decision. Same with Young. A&M is getting what it deserves right now. Hopefully changes are made ASAP.

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I was paying about $24,000 a year to the TMF after new Kyle was finished. Since I got out of law school, my donations alone have probably covered four years of tuition for several players. But I just turned off that spigot last week.

I love Aggie football. There was a time (literally 3 months ago) when I would do or donate damn near anything to see us win a national championship, even overlook the uninformed opinions of our left-leaning players and administration.

Unfortunately, things have escalated too much, and I can no longer donate money in good conscience that might end up going to people who want to destroy the fabric of our free society. For me, a switch has been flipped over the last month, and I am sad to say I would rather see our football program burned to the ****ing ground at this point than let a single dollar of mine go to support what is happening to our once great university. Sad.

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Remember, the same thing is happening to our great country.

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1996OlAg said:

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Sorry guys. Can somebody fill me in on what is going on? I literally turned off all media when this crap started in the spring. Thanks!

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To name a few:
Kellen Mond going full Kaepernick
President believe race hoaxes
Hating on Sully

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From young on down, the administration are guilty of appeasement no matter what the case.

Franklin Delano Bluth said:

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Dear Money Bag,

I know we promote spoiled student athletes ****ting all over alumni, but can we have some money please?

Sincerely,

Scumbag Admin


PS: You're a racist!

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WHAT'S ALOOMNI???!!!

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1996OlAg said:

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Sorry guys. Can somebody fill me in on what is going on? I literally turned off all media when this crap started in the spring. Thanks!

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Basically you're a bad Aggie if you're not opening your wallet to Aggie Athletics now.

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You're a bad Ag if you support all this B.S.!!!!!

Hey, Bjork. GFY. I have no interest in Aggie football anymore. I'll spend my Saturdays at the gun range now instead of watching the SJW "victims" on the football team who get a free education for playing a stupid game.

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I pulled my donations when they kicked me out of my season ticket seats I'd had for 19 years. Their excuse was, I didn't have enough points ($$$$$) in my portfolio for them. I told them "NO MORE, I'M DONE" and they could take those tickets, my 12Th Man donations, my Letterman donations and shove'm. This is NOT the same University I've loved since I was 9 years old.

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I had faculty/staff tickets since 1972, about the 20 yd line, until the new stadium was opened. We were then moved to the end zone. This is just an example of $$ is more important than education. At that time I gave them up. I haven't been to the carnival since. No dj, dancing girls or ridicilous prices for me.

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Bjork is right "Aggies stick together in trying times". Most Aggies love A&M football, but love A&M even more and will stick together when racist football players want to label other Aggies racist who don't want to vandalize or remove Sully

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PneumAg said:

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I was paying about $24,000 a year to the TMF after new Kyle was finished. Since I got out of law school, my donations alone have probably covered four years of tuition for several players. But I just turned off that spigot last week.

I love Aggie football. There was a time (literally 3 months ago) when I would do or donate damn near anything to see us win a national championship, even overlook the uninformed opinions of our left-leaning players and administration.

Unfortunately, things have escalated too much, and I can no longer donate money in good conscience that might end up going to people who want to destroy the fabric of our free society. For me, a switch has been flipped over the last month, and I am sad to say I would rather see our football program burned to the ****ing ground at this point than let a single dollar of mine go to support what is happening to our once great university. Sad.

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I am gone forever. Fed up. I am only on this site to confirm the demise of all the sports. Fed up.

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#Mke said:

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Perhaps endorsing a QB who believes the Aggie Corps, donors, & fans are all racist wasn't the best move Bjork! Not another dime!!!

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This is the most productive thread I have seen all year. I hate what it has come to but believe it is the only way to make the Administration of The University see that they have backed the wrong horse!

Hold the line Ags! Time to let these entitled punk/wannabe SJW's know that they are getting a free education provided to them by the very same people they a spitting on!

I have donated a ton of money in the last 20-ish years to both A&M and UT. I would never ever donate to the athletic program of either school. My money will only go to the academic side of these universities.

I hope there are more of you. This university can't give into WOKE. Money is the only thing they care about. I do understand that the powers are in a tough spot. They get canceled if they say anything. But they need to feel some hard times for backing the pitch fork crowd. Removing statues doesn't fix racial issues. And I doubt there are many on the campus.

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I have donated a ton of money in the last 20-ish years to both A&M and UT. I would never ever donate to the athletic program of either school. My money will only go to the academic side of these universities.

"So long as an opinion is strongly rooted in the feelings, it gains rather than loses in stability by having a preponderating weight of argument against it."

- John Stuart Mill, 1869

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John Stuart Mill wouldn't support any of the policies that President Young has supported during this time of BLM terrorism. I would caution you giving money even on the academic side (especially the humanities).

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turfman80 said:

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How can these people be so tone deaf? Address the damn problem!

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you know I guess it's possible that Bjork and Dabney have been muzzled.

i.e...ordered not to say anything about the 900-pound elephant in the room

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Well that is pretty small as far as elephants go.
......................................................................signed: Cliff Claven

Yup another thread attacking a&m athletes for having an opinion.

Does racism exist at A&M?....yes. If you can't see that, you are oblivious.

Racism exists everywhere, including reverse-racism. It sucks, but it's true. There is one group that has been oppressed more than others.

You can choose to spend every cent however you'd like. Everyone can have an opinion. They are entitled to. Time and time again, people are faulted for having an opinion that isn't the same as theirs.

There is a difference with disagreeing and personally attacking someone.

This whole situation sucks.

Letters have been sent to the BOR, Sharp, Young, Bjork, Fisher, etc. I no longer trust any of them. They lost it when they were too weak to lead and take a stand. Elections have consequences and I view all these positions as elections, (selection) made by a board or some executive. I have never seen such a group of gutless cowards who think they are doing the right thing. No, it is not and it is fear and all of these people are cowering in the corners of their house hoping they will not be next. Rewarding or appeasing bad behavior only leads to more bad behavior.
The same goes for the academic side who for years have been sucking up to the liberal professors who could not compete in industry. They have awarded academic scholarships to many foreign students who are questionable with their allegiance and will never contribute back to TAMU.

aeon-ag said:

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IDaggie06 said:

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1996OlAg said:

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Sorry guys. Can somebody fill me in on what is going on? I literally turned off all media when this crap started in the spring. Thanks!

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To name a few:
Kellen Mond going full Kaepernick
President believe race hoaxes
Hating on Sully

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From [Sharp] on down, the administration are guilty of appeasement no matter what the case.

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You left out Sharp

impavidus said:

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Yup another thread attacking a&m athletes for having an opinion.

Does racism exist at A&M?....yes. If you can't see that, you are oblivious.

Racism exists everywhere, including reverse-racism. It sucks, but it's true. There is one group that has been oppressed more than others.

You can choose to spend every cent however you'd like. Everyone can have an opinion. They are entitled to. Time and time again, people are faulted for having an opinion that isn't the same as theirs.

There is a difference with disagreeing and personally attacking someone.

This whole situation sucks.

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There is no such thing as "reverse racism".

I just watched that video. The AD and the coach they used to beg for money are both so new they need a map to find their way around College Station.


Why not the coaches with the woke athletes ie Henry, Jimbo etc

And the sky is not blue.....

Sure there is

Removing statues and shouting down people won't fix racism.

I think the point of all this is that there are a lot of sports who depend on football revenue to stay operating and keep opportunities open for those kids, which I do think is important. There are maybe a handful of student athletes participating in the Sully stuff beyond twitter? I don't think that's worth taking away their opportunities. Regardless of the public facing wing of the administration, Sully is still there for a reason.

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I think the point of all this is that there are a lot of sports who depend on football revenue to stay operating and keep opportunities open for those kids, which I do think is important. There are maybe a handful of student athletes participating in the Sully stuff beyond twitter? I don't think that's worth taking away their opportunities. Regardless of the public facing wing of the administration, Sully is still there for a reason.

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You are worried about a few athletes that may lose their opportunities but you are ok with the same student athletes stating publicly that the corps needs to be removed. Are you ok with those 2400 students losing their opportunities?

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I think the point of all this is that there are a lot of sports who depend on football revenue to stay operating and keep opportunities open for those kids, which I do think is important. There are maybe a handful of student athletes participating in the Sully stuff beyond twitter? I don't think that's worth taking away their opportunities. Regardless of the public facing wing of the administration, Sully is still there for a reason.

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I agree and disagree. Football obviously foots the bill for the vast majority if not all sports. That's made possible by people on this board and many other Aggies world wide.

It is unfortunate that the only voices being heard are so obviously anti A&M. I think you are making an assumption that those voices are in the minority. No one knows anyone else's opinions because they haven't been shared. You can assume they agree or don't agree with the likes of KM or limited Tucker but that would be just an assumption. It does suck that the voices of the few are represented as the voices of the many if they are not a true representation of everyone's opinions but that goes back to leadership. Where is it at? The only way to effect change is to challenge the ideas of those dissenting and by not supporting this lunacy. At some point there will be a tipping point where those that disagree with the likes of KM and limited Tucker will have to voice their opinions because they have nothing left to lose because their sport has been furloughed. We haven't gotten to that point yet but we are well on our way. I feel bad for those kids because they are getting very hard life lessons that if you don't stand up to what's right you will get run over. My only hope is that this impacts the leadership as much as its going to effect the kids. We all know it won't but we can hope.

Q-Tip 94 said:

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Nonregdrummer09 said:

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I think the point of all this is that there are a lot of sports who depend on football revenue to stay operating and keep opportunities open for those kids, which I do think is important. There are maybe a handful of student athletes participating in the Sully stuff beyond twitter? I don't think that's worth taking away their opportunities. Regardless of the public facing wing of the administration, Sully is still there for a reason.

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You are worried about a few athletes that may lose their opportunities but you are ok with the same student athletes stating publicly that the corps needs to be removed. Are you ok with those 2400 students losing their opportunities?

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I'm saying that these are not the same student athletes. What you're advocating for is having student athletes who have nothing to do with what some other student athlete in another sport said and punishing them, because it's not Kellen Mond that's going to lose his sport of football doesn't play this season. It'll be the other student athletes in non-revenue sports who came here because they love A&M and wanted to represent the school in something they excel in. I don't think they deserve that.

And the Corps obviously isn't going anywhere.

Nonregdrummer09 said:

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Q-Tip 94 said:

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Nonregdrummer09 said:

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I think the point of all this is that there are a lot of sports who depend on football revenue to stay operating and keep opportunities open for those kids, which I do think is important. There are maybe a handful of student athletes participating in the Sully stuff beyond twitter? I don't think that's worth taking away their opportunities. Regardless of the public facing wing of the administration, Sully is still there for a reason.

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You are worried about a few athletes that may lose their opportunities but you are ok with the same student athletes stating publicly that the corps needs to be removed. Are you ok with those 2400 students losing their opportunities?

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I'm saying that these are not the same student athletes. What you're advocating for is having student athletes who have nothing to do with what some other student athlete in another sport said and punishing them, because it's not Kellen Mond that's going to lose his sport of football doesn't play this season. It'll be the other student athletes in non-revenue sports who came here because they love A&M and wanted to represent the school in something they excel in. I don't think they deserve that.

And the Corps obviously isn't going anywhere.

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Weird, you mean you shouldn't label all people in a group/profession as bad because of the actions of a few?

Someone let Mond, BLM, etc know...

Jordan Peterson (should be required for all students and alumni)


If you want to know where BLM leads, just watch a few of Jordan Peterson's videos. Now this is one professor who is worth the high prices of universities these days.

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Q-Tip 94 said:

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Nonregdrummer09 said:

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I think the point of all this is that there are a lot of sports who depend on football revenue to stay operating and keep opportunities open for those kids, which I do think is important. There are maybe a handful of student athletes participating in the Sully stuff beyond twitter? I don't think that's worth taking away their opportunities. Regardless of the public facing wing of the administration, Sully is still there for a reason.

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You are worried about a few athletes that may lose their opportunities but you are ok with the same student athletes stating publicly that the corps needs to be removed. Are you ok with those 2400 students losing their opportunities?

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I'm saying that these are not the same student athletes. What you're advocating for is having student athletes who have nothing to do with what some other student athlete in another sport said and punishing them, because it's not Kellen Mond that's going to lose his sport of football doesn't play this season. It'll be the other student athletes in non-revenue sports who came here because they love A&M and wanted to represent the school in something they excel in. I don't think they deserve that.

And the Corps obviously isn't going anywhere.

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Maybe as the most visible athlete on campus (QB of the football team) Mond should have realized his actions may have those consequences before he took his hardline stance. And the AD damn well should have realized it when he was overly vocal in his support, bad business decision Ross.

If the athletes in the non revenue sports are worried about losing their scholarships maybe they should approach QB1 and their AD and tell them to tone it down or apologize....

You are absolutely correct. Their ar a lot of athletes that depend on this money for scholarships. There may be some that don't share Kellen's opinion. The withholding of donations might end their scholarship and I feel bad about that. Hopefully it will make them voice their opposing opinion. If nothing is done it will only get worse for the University but enough is enough. People have been silent for too long ( probably). I will say that I don't think Kellen is thinking about the Sully statue during the game or even as he goes about his daily life. He is a good QB but not great and Sully has nothing to do with his performance. I listened to a black woman speak to her city council about statues the other day. She told them that the statue was just a rock. She started life in the projects and on food stamps. She told them how she got a job and worked to get better at it. She told them fast forward 38 years and now she owns 17 houses and operates a Bed and Breakfast. She told them that the rock out in that yard had nothing to do with it. It did not help her or hurt her in her quest. She pleaded that they leave the statue up and not to give in to a movement because it will get worse and worse. She berated BLM and stated that if they want to help forward Blacks go help all the Black men standing and sitting in front of the mission. She said many of the protesters are well educated college grads and asked why can't they teach the Black men financial literacy. That is the way to help not tearing things up. These folks protesting could care less about Black people they are all about an agenda for themselves. Please don't fall for it. Now maybe Kellen got caught up in something he didn't fully understand or he does understand fully. I don't know but we are all free to have an opinion and we are all free to chose what to do with our money (at this time). Progress is not always good sometimes it can have long lasting detrimental effects and my opinion is this is one of those times. There has to be a better way to move forward but what I am seeing everyday is not it and will not receive my support.

SattlerAggie said:

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90% of you morons don't even donate. The fact you think this has to do with the BLM movement and not corona shows how far up your own asses you are.

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The video directly suggests donations are down due to the covid virus.
In reality, donations are off (including mine) because:
A&M has a weak and feckless university president,
an ever expanding desire from the administration and faculty to virtue signal,
No repercussions for students and student athletes who "like", endorse and promote hate and division thru hoaxes, false claims and violence against others with differing opinions and backgrounds