Why dont they make running shoes with drainage holes on the bottom like some tri shoes? For those of us that sweat A LOT, it sure would be nice to have them drain to avoid heavy shoes in a long run...

run faster and the water will evaporate at a faster rate

I got a pair of Nike Vomero a couple of days ago. After two short runs I can already tell a huge difference in having the right type of shoes. I was not able to go get fitted at RunTex or Luke's Locker. I just used the advice off this thread, tried on all of the suggested shoes for my foot type and did my best. Thank you

Great thread Aggie00. I appreciate it!

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For those of us that sweat A LOT, it sure would be nice to have them drain to avoid heavy shoes in a long run...

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what kind of socks are you wearing? most running shoes with good ventilation and a good pair of wicking socks should take care of it.

Balegas or Addidas running socks. I switched to Gel Nimbus 12's recently and have the same problem. I just started to rotate shoes in long runs when able to, around mile 10 or 12.

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My advice is to learn how to run properly and try to work down to the lightest least cushioned shoe possible. It takes time, and no one has the patience to do it, but if you do, you will avoid injury completely and be able to run as much as you want.

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you will avoid injury completely and be able to run as much as you want.

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stating absolutes probably isn't a good idea.

running injuries can be due to many things besides shoes.

I want to state for the record that I have run with Vero quite a bit and it's possibe he has mutant sweat glands. Granted, we're running in Houston, and the air is already filled with water giving the sweat no where to go.

I think he should shave his legs.

I sweat just as bad or worse

TAT....

Would love some recommendations...

I owned a pair of Asics 2120's, and then a pair of NB 1224's.

I really like the cushion of the 2120's but the stability of the 1224's.

Should I go for the new 2150's? or 1226's? or a different shoe?

Some info that might help:
Over pronate
Stability
Flat feet
need a shoe that comes in wide... 2E or 4E, 2E should be plenty though..

Thanks!



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have you tried the Kayano? more cushioning and stability than the 2100 series. Or maybe the 750 series in NB...not sure what number they are on now.

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I switched to Gel Nimbus 12's recently and have the same problem. I just started to rotate shoes in long runs when able to, around mile 10 or 12.

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weird. my brother had the same problem when he went from the cumulus to the nimbus 11's

What are the chances that a running store would be wrong on a gait analysis? I went to Luke’s Locker in March and just walked on a treadmill for about 15 seconds barefoot and they told me I have flat feet and overpronate so I need a stability shoe. The problem is, they never looked at the bottom of my feet. My feet aren’t flat, I’ve got a pretty high arch. I ran on the stability shoe that I got there, Saucony Omni 8, and kept having knee pain. Switched to the Nike Vomero and all of that went away. Tried going back to a stability shoe since that is what I was told I needed, this time the Asics 2150, and immediately started having knee pain again. I’m just worried that if I stick with a neutral shoe I may end up injuring myself.

gait analysis at a running store can definitely be wrong. you could get a crappy employee or someone who is new and doesn't know what they are doing. if it hurts, either they put you in the wrong type of shoe, or that particular shoe doesn't work for you.

either run in a neutral shoe (no pain) or go back and get an opinion from a different employee.

btw - there are some people who overpronate and can wear neutral shoes with no issues. I know an ultramarathoner (and world record holder) that overpronates and wears nothing but neutral shoes. the cover of his book is a picture of him running Badwater and he's overpronating.

Picked up some Nike Zoom Structure Triax +13's yesterday. So far, so good (5 miles).

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Picked up some Nike Zoom Structure Triax +13's yesterday. So far, so good (5 miles).

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I love this shoe. I have since gone for a little less support, but I went through 5 pairs of those boys before switching. Hope continue to work well for you.

AggieOO:

I am looking at buying either the Nike Vomero 4 or 5. I really enjoyed the Vomero 2 and was wondering if there have been any changes to the shoe. Also, are there any shoes that have a similar fit to the Vomero. TIA.

i had a pair of 2s and wasn't a big fan. ran in the 3s for awhile (did a 50 miler in them) and then they started bothering me. I didn't have the 4s, so not sure about that one. I have a couple of pairs of 5s and they are decent. They aren't my first choice, but I can run in them with no problems.

if you are looking at something with a similar fit, try the new Pegasus. Not as soft as the Vomero and slightly more narrow toe box, but a somewhat similar fit/feel. If you are looking at something in another brand, the lasts (shape) will be different, but I can name some that will have a somewhat similar cushioning/feel.

Thanks for the response. The 2s worked very well for me. I like narrow fit of Nike's and really like the amount of cushioning in that shoe. I'm fine with going outside of Nike and would like to hear your recommendations for a similar shoe(fit, size, ect.).

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So at what point is a shoe considered 'worn out'?

So at what point is a shoe considered 'worn out'?

when there's a noticeable lack of response and cushioning and you can start to feel stress-type injuries. 300-500 miles depending on the size of the runner.

AggieOO
 
I have been in stability shoes for a few years, but I recently transitioned from heel striking to a midfoot/forefoot strike.  Do I still need stability shoes?  It seems like all of the stability is built in to the heel, which only hits the ground when walking. 
 
I’ve also been doing a couple of miles in the nike frees every two weeks or so. 

03....if you are not engaging the heal the possibility that you will overpronate is incredibly low. Perhaps a little late stage, but should be fine
There is always the possibility that your stride gets a little sloppy when you get deep into a run and get fatigued....at that point it becomes easier for your heel to find the ground. Even then, you should be alright either with a neutral shoe or a light stability shoe.

that all makes sense to me, although they did do a video analysis the last time i got shoes, and they said i was overpronating.

which i might buy, but what would a stability shoe do to help?

03...if you are truly up on your forefoot then, again, it is really hard to encourage you to go stability. There is a shoe (Asics 3020) that is really good for late stae overpronation, but even that is probably not what you need.

You said you've been running in frees since you transitioned. If you are not getting any pain from those you should be good in a neutral shoe that fits your foot.

I have fit shoes at Luke's for a few years and I am not a fan of putting someone in stability if they are not hurting when they run (not always, but it's a guideline for me....certainly not everyone I work with). FOr example, my wife has been running for over 20 years and overpronates big time. She never has had any pain from that....she runs in neutral shoes and is pain free. Why would I change that?

thanks for your help. Guess i'll be looking neutral for my next shoe. There are very few stability shoes that have good cushioning in the forefoot.

looks like its been covered, but yeah, if you are striking in front of the medial post, then you won't engage it.

Hi,

I'm looking for a pair of running shoes and I'm completely lost...
I did the "wet test" and found that I have low arches. My calves and shins hurt after running a little bit (don't know what that means, wearing some garbage Target running shoes). I'm completely in over my head. I'll willing to pay up for a decent pair of shoes but I don't know where to start.
Any help would be greatly appreciated...

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you need to fix this ASAP. your calves hurt because you're new to running. your shins could be something as simple as your shoes. could be more than that.

where are you located? the best advice is of course . . . get thee to a running store. Luke's Locker is generally a good place to start. If you live near Ft. Worth I highly recommend Ft. Worth Running Company.

Yeah, I know I need to fix it. I've been on 5 runs over 10 days totalling about 5 miles so I'm not doing anything crazy. I think that the calves and shins are both because I'm knew to running, but I still need a good pair of shoes. Where is a good place in BCS?

unless something has changed, there isn't a good place in B/CS.

How about the Woodlands?