Chevelle SS Resto-Mod Thread

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dat lope doe
I agree, i don't think it has any cyclinders missing, it just needs to idle around 3k rpm.
Yeah don't get me wrong, it's never idled this well before. I let it run for about 5 mins to see if the fans would kick on, but they never did. I think factory programming is 205 degrees and I never got above 150.

When it was missing, it was very obvious. I'd be totally happy with this idle!
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Wow, long overdue for an update! All these other great build threads on here have been distracting me!

I haven't done a great deal of work, mainly due to saving up some coin for wheels and tires, but I have made a little progress.

I ended up buying one of the Procar seats kind of as a test run....they are nice little seats!


Decided to make my own mounting brackets instead of paying $80 a pop for theirs. As close as the seat lined up to the mount holes, it wouldn't be hard:


Test fit:



Cut some angle iron into small pieces and got holes drilled:


Painted black for extra performance:


Fit up:


Not bad at all:



Finished product:



If you look close you can see I turned the front brackets around 180 degrees, as I wasn't quite happy with my sitting position. It moved the seat back just the right amount I think....
I can always re-drill the brackets if I need to. So far so good.

Somewhere along the way I realized my reverse lockout solenoid and backup lights work! That was pretty exciting for some reason....I guess just more confirmation all my wiring worked as it should. The ignition has to be on for the ECU to power the lock out solenoid, allowing an easy shift into reverse. That will be money when I'm actually driving this thing!

The proof:


Now the good stuff! Saturday I loaded the car up and took it to Discount Tire to test fit some wheels and tires. I've been on and off the fence going, so I finally just committed and went.
The SS looked good out in the sun!


I was a little dissapointed with the selection at discount tire, but they were helpful and we talked through a lot of ideas. The biggest thing I left with was the knowledge of what will fit.


Here are some results. This is an 18x8, with a +35 ET. It fit pretty good, but did leave some space unused.

This last pic sort of shows how the wheel can come out more:


That wheel well makes an 18" rim look small, suddenly!


So, I've dialed into what I think will be near perfect, and that is a 19x9 with an offset of about +12 to around +20, give or take.
I didn't care for the style of that wheel much, but it was a good size to start with.
Tire size:


Based on some calcs, that tire is 10.08" wide. A 275/40/19 should be about 10.80" wide, which I think will for sure fit. There was easily 3/4 of an inch under there left, just a matter or getting the offset right.

So that's my plan. a 275/40/19 on 19x9 wheel. For the sake of suspense, I will say that I have a wheel on order that will be in later this week for a test fit. All signs point to it being awesome.

I'll just leave that there for now!!


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Nice work man! Can't wait to see the wheels you picked.
agwrangler2001
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Nice work man! Can't wait to see the wheels you picked.
Thanks! I've got my fingers crossed that they will fit...
Aggietaco
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I thought you already had some 5 spokes picked out? What happened to those?
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I had my eye on the Boss 338s

I really like those wheels, but the more I looked at wheels, the more common I noticed they were. Like REALLY popular. For good reason, they are sweet, but wanted to be a little different I guess.

I think most will like the ones I have picked out instead...provided they fit!

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Wheel update!
I've spent a lot of time measuring and double checking my fitment. Because of TSW's return policy,I wasn't able to mount a tire to the rim until I was certain it would work. I ordered 1 TSW "Portier" wheel for a test fit.

Originally I was looking at a 275/40/19 on the 19x9 wheel. However after seeing the rim in the wheel well, it was looking like a 275 would rub.
Outer Lip:


Inner lip to frame:


Actual width of wheel is right at 10" this was my measurement that made me realize a 275 (10.8") tire wouldn't fit:

Sooooo, 255 it is. The other consideration I had was with the overall OD of the wheel assembly. I was afraid a 40 series (27" OD) would rub on the rear body mount, based on my cardboard mock-up:


So to play it safe, that puts me at a 35 series. So now we are at 255/35/19.
I did a lot of research on tire brands and ended up going with Hankook Ventus Evo2, which has great reviews and road course test feedback. They were rated higher than the BFGs, Nittos, Pirellies, etc. Not to mention they were quite a bit cheaper than some of those others.

Ordered 1 tire to mount to my 1 rim and did a test fit last night.... in short, I think I nailed it.
I'm very happy with the "tucked look" and overall fitment. I would've liked a little more sidewall, but eh.
Thoughts?






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Damn gina!
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Dig the wheels. Glad you dared to be different.
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that is a badass whip
clem93
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Whoa! Sick! I really like those.
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I like the wheel design, but not the "rubber band" tires. By my calculations a 255/40R18 would give you the same overall diameter as 255/35R19, with an extra 1/2" of sidewall on each side, so if those wheels come in 18", that's what I'd do.

I'm not paying for it though, so make yourself happy!
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Aggietaco
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Agreed, I think a smaller wheel would fit the car better and had the same thoughts when you posted the 18" wheel (I'm a fan of more sidewall). But that setup still looks sweet.
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Agreed, I think a smaller wheel would fit the car better and had the same thoughts when you posted the 18" wheel (I'm a fan of more sidewall). But that setup still looks sweet.
I don't necessarily disagree with the more sidewall comment, and I really wanted to try at least a 40 series....
It is possible it still may fit, and I've thought about trying one.

As for the rim size, too late, once I mounted a tire, I bought it! I still think a 19 fills out the fender well better than the 18:


19:


Another reason I probably won't be changing the setup is the 19 assembly fits the front near perfectly.
Test fitted Friday evening:








Surprisingly, there is almost no rubbing, even at full lock. There is a slight chance at full compression the very top of the tire could get into the fender liner, but it looks doubtful.

I'm also REALLY pleased with the ride height. I thought I would have major tinkering to do after fitting up just the rim while trying to put weight on the control arm.
Hittin' switches:


Lastly, I replaced the brake master cylinder over the weekend also....I noticed while taking car to the tire shop the other day wasn't getting good pedal pressure and braking was basically non existent.

The cylinder was leaking down onto the booster, so I pulled it. For what it's worth, the late 60s Vette style master cylinder are nearly impossible to find. I ended up going with a 79 Buick Riviera master.

So far so good, hopefully the brakes will be good to go when I get my other 3 wheels!

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Silvy, your boys at DT are testing my patience, Called to order the other 3 wheels and a 255/40 tire to see what the fitment looks like, and suddenly they won't sell it to me because it is 5x120mm, and the Chevelle is 5x4.75 (120.6mm).

"We shouldn't have sold you that rim."

Well you mounted a tire on it, so I can't take it back now. Sigh.

They said they would make it right and take the rim back, but I've done too much work to have to find another set of rims.

I'm not concerned about the 120 vs 120.6. The internet is full of people running that set up all day everyday, racing, draggin, daily driving, etc.

Has anyone heard of any issues with the sizing? Just ready to get this thing on the road. I even ordered my lug nuts and installed longer studs on the front rotor.




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God wants you to have a smaller wheel.
agwrangler2001
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God wants you to have a smaller wheel.
Seriously.
Apparently the Hankook 255/40 is a discontinued tire as well.
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Yea, DT has gotten real crappy about those issues. I wanted to get some 315/75/16 BFG ATs to mount on some factory Ford 16" X 7" rims. I wasn't even going to have DT mount them because my truck was in Austin with my daughter and I was buying them in BCS and having a little no name shop in Austin mount them. They still didn't want to sell them to me just "knowing" what I was gonna do. I would've gone somewhere else but I needed them that day and they were the only place in 150 miles that had four in stock. So, I lied and told them I had just bought some new MT Classic Lock wheel in a 10" to mount them on and they finally sold them to me.

The Nanny state is getting way to strong these days.
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The Nanny state is getting way to strong these days.
Seriously, what is next? "Sorry, we can't sell you these tires, your engine is too powerful, we're afraid you might do a burnout or drive too fast."
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Goose
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The Nanny state is getting way to strong these days.
Irony = Corperate liability Nanny State commentary posted by someone with litig8r for username.
Aggietaco
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And then....
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agwrangler2001
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I'll try to update today, I've got some decent videos of the car, and a few pics as well!
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Will the video have sound? You know, the kind of throaty, rumbling, classic American V-8 loping at idle kind of sound that hints at a caged beast ready to unleash it's violent fury kind of sound?...Will there be that???
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Well I couldn't find a recent video of any good quality....I'll try to take one soon.
I did get the car out of the garage Sunday and took a better pic with the new wheels.


I do have a video of the first real drive, just down the street to my neighbor's house. If you watch close, you can catch where it want to surge when I first let out the clutch, but I'm trying to prevent it. This was still when car had open headers.



Still needs the tune, so I'm reluctant to do any full throttle runs (burn outs).

Soon.....
KY AG
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FUEL PUMP BE PUMPIN!!!

Seriously, congrats wrangler! Great work!
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Dat rumble doe



Silvy
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Very nice!
Duncan Idaho
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Nice build. Hell of a lot cooler than buying a finished one. Be proud of it.
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Awesome car.
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Thanks!
SO much work still to be done though....I've placed a few orders to take advantage of Black Friday/Cyber Monday. Mainly trim, emblems and external things I needed like a parking light housing and new tail light lenses.

My plan from here is:

  • Get the front and rear glass in, including trim pieces.
  • Order and install passenger seat.
  • Try to find some vintage '64 plates and get it registered.
  • Fuel cap and filler door/license plate bracket.
  • Schedule live tuning session.
  • Wheel alignment?

Pulled the trigger on the insurance the other day, so that's one less thing.

I checked a spark plug the other day and it is running WAY rich:

So I pulled all the plugs and cleaned them up. I'm going to try not run it again until I'm ready for the tuning session.

I also discovered my mystery exhaust tick and "breeze" (exhaust in the face) when standing at front of car with hood open on passenger side:

Exhaust shop fail:


 
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