Texan_Aggie said:

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8th Wonder will be done if/when the THC bill goes through. Unless Abbott vetoes, they are facing a death sentence. Likely effective September.

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What bill is this? I don't pay attention. At my job, they still fire stoners.

94chem said:

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Texan_Aggie said:

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8th Wonder will be done if/when the THC bill goes through. Unless Abbott vetoes, they are facing a death sentence. Likely effective September.

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What bill is this? I don't pay attention. At my job, they still fire stoners.

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Texas congress passed a bill banning all hemp based THC products which is how we currently have CBD seltzers and products in Texas. The bill is sitting on Abbott's desk at the moment waiting to be signed or vetoed.

8th Wonder got bought by one of the local THC/CBD companies a few years ago and those CBD drinks at the brewery are the one thing that separate them from other breweries in town.

cajunaggie08 said:

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94chem said:

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Texan_Aggie said:

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8th Wonder will be done if/when the THC bill goes through. Unless Abbott vetoes, they are facing a death sentence. Likely effective September.

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What bill is this? I don't pay attention. At my job, they still fire stoners.

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Texas congress passed a bill banning all hemp based THC products which is how we currently have CBD seltzers and products in Texas. The bill is sitting on Abbott's desk at the moment waiting to be signed or vetoed.

8th Wonder got bought by one of the local THC/CBD companies a few years ago and those CBD drinks at the brewery are the one thing that separate them from other breweries in town.

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Thanks. I had no idea why I was seeing this explosion of cocktails with weed in them. Like I said, I never paid attention because I can't afford a $2M pee.

I just drink Miller and Coors light

94chem said:

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cajunaggie08 said:

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94chem said:

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Texan_Aggie said:

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8th Wonder will be done if/when the THC bill goes through. Unless Abbott vetoes, they are facing a death sentence. Likely effective September.

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What bill is this? I don't pay attention. At my job, they still fire stoners.

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Texas congress passed a bill banning all hemp based THC products which is how we currently have CBD seltzers and products in Texas. The bill is sitting on Abbott's desk at the moment waiting to be signed or vetoed.

8th Wonder got bought by one of the local THC/CBD companies a few years ago and those CBD drinks at the brewery are the one thing that separate them from other breweries in town.

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Thanks. I had no idea why I was seeing this explosion of cocktails with weed in them. Like I said, I never paid attention because I can't afford a $2M pee.

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Not weed, THC from hemp so you'll pass a drug test. Not nearly as potent, but they put me to sleep.

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94chem said:

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cajunaggie08 said:

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94chem said:

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Texan_Aggie said:

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8th Wonder will be done if/when the THC bill goes through. Unless Abbott vetoes, they are facing a death sentence. Likely effective September.

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What bill is this? I don't pay attention. At my job, they still fire stoners.

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Texas congress passed a bill banning all hemp based THC products which is how we currently have CBD seltzers and products in Texas. The bill is sitting on Abbott's desk at the moment waiting to be signed or vetoed.

8th Wonder got bought by one of the local THC/CBD companies a few years ago and those CBD drinks at the brewery are the one thing that separate them from other breweries in town.

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Thanks. I had no idea why I was seeing this explosion of cocktails with weed in them. Like I said, I never paid attention because I can't afford a $2M pee.

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Not weed, THC from hemp so you'll pass a drug test. Not nearly as potent, but they put me to sleep.

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THC is THC, whether is comes from marijuana or dog crap.

94chem said:

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drumboy said:

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94chem said:

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cajunaggie08 said:

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94chem said:

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Texan_Aggie said:

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8th Wonder will be done if/when the THC bill goes through. Unless Abbott vetoes, they are facing a death sentence. Likely effective September.

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What bill is this? I don't pay attention. At my job, they still fire stoners.

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Texas congress passed a bill banning all hemp based THC products which is how we currently have CBD seltzers and products in Texas. The bill is sitting on Abbott's desk at the moment waiting to be signed or vetoed.

8th Wonder got bought by one of the local THC/CBD companies a few years ago and those CBD drinks at the brewery are the one thing that separate them from other breweries in town.

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Thanks. I had no idea why I was seeing this explosion of cocktails with weed in them. Like I said, I never paid attention because I can't afford a $2M pee.

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Not weed, THC from hemp so you'll pass a drug test. Not nearly as potent, but they put me to sleep.

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THC is THC, whether is comes from marijuana or dog crap.

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Whoops glad I haven't ever been tested.

Update on Talyard since we discussed it in detail last year.

Went on a Saturday night a couple of weekends ago. Arrived just as the Space Cowboys fans were headed to the game next door.

Place was still packed even after they cleared out. Tons of people. Lots of kids running amok. Pickleball courts had a wait list.

Menu has improved a lot. Food was good. Still not a huge fan of their beer.

Operations wise, they're still a bit of a work in progress. The kids lining up for soft drink refills take up way too much staff time and space. It's ridiculous to have to wait in a long line to place a $75 food/beer order behind 15 sweaty little brats who each want a different kind of soda.

At one point they had a separate line for refills but they've ended that. It's time to bring it back, especially on weekends.

They have staff with tablets coming around to tables but that's really just for beer orders. So the order and pickup counters are a mess with lots of line cutting and the inevitable clueless people who block everyone while they ask a million questions or have special demands.

tl/dr: Talyard appears to be doing bang-up business but operations is still a challenge .. i.e. "no one goes there anymore because it's too crowded."

Elder Son is the latest brewery down.

Copperhead also closing. They are dropping like flies.

Texas Leaguer in Stafford announced they are closed; seeking donations to get out of a spot with their landlord.

https://txlmug.club/savetxl

Bummer

Another one bites the dust.

Big Owl? Last day today.

Others I have heard "anticipate to be done by year end" are True Anomaly and Equal Parts.

Texan_Aggie said:

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Big Owl? Last day today.

Others I have heard "anticipate to be done by year end" are True Anomaly and Equal Parts.

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I thought True Anomaly was just moving locations since their current spot will have the new 59/45 highway on top of it?

Texan_Aggie said:

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Big Owl? Last day today.

Others I have heard "anticipate to be done by year end" are True Anomaly and Equal Parts.

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True anomaly just had a booth at GABF a couple weeks ago.

Like others said, True Anomaly is moving but they still seem to draw a crowd so I'd be shocked they throw in the towel unless the moving costs eat into whatever nest egg they have or they feel new spot they have identified just wont draw the same traffic.

I finally visited Equal Parts last month and the place was full and they seem to have established themselves as the neighborhood watering hole. That'd be disappointing to see them go.

Oh, heck yeah….Sailing Santa time!

The rumor I got was back in August a week before Leaguer kicked the keg, so take it for what you will.

Texan_Aggie said:

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The rumor I got was back in August a week before Leaguer kicked the keg, so take it for what you will.

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thank you m'lady

Another round of shutdowns. North Shepard Brewery is closing and was bought by the owner of Farmboy Homebrew shop. He's going to reopen as Farmboy Brewery, have a full liquor license and the back area (i think) will have the homebrew shop. Mid December-ish.

True Anomaly was going to move to a building they bought but the city screwed them on relocation assistance from the 45 expansion project. Sounds like theyre SOL and will be closing.

AlaskanAg99 said:

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Another round of shutdowns. North Shepard Brewery is closing and was bought by the owner of Farmboy Homebrew shop. He's going to reopen as Farmboy Brewery, have a full liquor license and the back area (i think) will have the homebrew shop. Mid December-ish.

True Anomaly was going to move to a building they bought but the city screwed them on relocation assistance from the 45 expansion project. Sounds like theyre SOL and will be closing.

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North Shepherd closed a couple months ago.

You're welcome.

cajunaggie08 said:

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I finally visited Equal Parts last month and the place was full and they seem to have established themselves as the neighborhood watering hole. That'd be disappointing to see them go.

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That's good to hear. I haven't been in a long time, but parking here for beers & riding the rail to Astros game was also fun.

I haven't heard anything about Equal Parts having issues. That sounds like you're rumor.

The others have had issues or have known major problems.

The industry demand is down as a whole and margins are terrible given tariffs on metals and increase in supply cost. Add in they are not only running their brewery but have to float Brash, which hasn't really come back as popularly as it had been, I could see it. Buddy who told me picks up used grain from these places to feed his cows, so he talks with the brewers and such. Who knows, but he's been right so far.

Beer adjacent, but Houston Cider Co. (formerly Town in City Brewing) on Cavalcade will be closing Nov 16th. Kind of surprised they lasted a long as they did.

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Beer adjacent, but Houston Cider Co. (formerly Town in City Brewing) on Cavalcade will be closing Nov 16th. Kind of surprised they lasted a long as they did.

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Fun times there as a founding member of the Townie Club back when they brewed beer. Jesus, that was like 10 years ago.

Ugh. True Anomaly is shutting down..

I lost pretty much all interest in craft beer around COVID.

What's the state of the market these days? Is it shrinking/ dying ? People in general just aren't drinking as much anymore, right?

So no more new location? Its over just like that?

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I lost pretty much all interest in craft beer around COVID.

What's the state of the market these days? Is it shrinking/ dying ? People in general just aren't drinking as much anymore, right?

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Its somewhere between dying and market correcting. True Anomaly closing down is mainly a result of TxDOT placing the new 45/59 on top of their current location. But the shrinking market definitely made it hard for them to relocate. I doubt they had the cash on hand to move and pay for construction on a new spot and I doubt any bank will give them more loans for a new brewery when they are closing up all over town and the country.

You're right that people aren't drinking as much anymore. The current crop of 20-somethings drink far less than we did at their ages. And then those who do drink went for the seltzer craze of the past 6-7 years. The craft beer section in grocery stores is half of what it used to be with seltzers now taking up a lot of that space. The craft beer that is there is usually one door width of nationally known craft brands and the other door is a handful of the big locals that got established early in the craft beer market. So if you're a newish craft brewery, you have a slim chance of your product getting in with distributors to make it to store shelves so you need to count on your location filling the need of a local watering hole/hang out space where location matters more than the product you're making. At that point, why invest tons of money in brewing when you might just be better off opening a bar or "beergarden."

Pre-covid and pre-seltzer fad, it looked like every other warehouse space or strip center in the loop had a microbrewery popping up and most of those seem to be folding up now due to a drop in demand and an increase in costs. Your beer better be damned good to draw a crown in to an non-airconditioned warehouse with a big fan at $6-$7 a pint and for most, it just wasn't.

So I don't see it going back to the 80s and 90s where there basically was no craft beer, but I don't see a place for 50+ of them in Houston any time soon or ever again nor do I see it feasible for a new one to start up for the next decade.