the coal plant was torn down. The other one is east of there by Roans Prairie.
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Hammerheadjim said:
Will this facility use reservoir water and the 2 coal plants on site? I believe the infrastructure is still there.
Shouldn't any excess electricity go back to the grid? If so, this will be a win-win. Even better when modular nuclear is readily available.
Coal plant was torn down. Nothing left but reservoir, switchyard, and roads.
The power plant on 30 E of Roans Prairie is Nat Gas and doesn't use water from the Navasota or Gibbons Creek.
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I'll be glad to post the video if you can send it to me? If you are willing my email is in my profile.
Modular nuclear is so cool, I hope it is widely adopted eventually. Unfortunately even though a lot of smart folks are working very hard on it, it doesn't seem to be advancing at a pace to give us real dispatchable MW.
Interesting tonight- KBTX confirms that the water rights to pump from the Navasota to Gibbons Creek did not survive the TMPA power plant demise. I had always figured they didn't as the purpose for those rights- power plant cooling- had ended. Will be interesting to see if the new owners apply for new rights- or maybe they think it's not needed. I'm kinda surprised the Grimes Co group hadn't keyed in on it earlier. Assuming there is a plan to apply for Navasota water rights to the Brazos River Authority- otherwise why buy the pipeline, pump station and ROW?
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flyguysr5 said:
Need to update your timeline schedule. Flew over the site Sunday and the heavy earth moving equipment is already there with 200 plus acres are already cleared somewhat leveled with work continuing. If I knew how to post the video I would. Interesting is it is on the south east side of the lake accessed from Hwy 30 not at the old plant location and accessed from 244 and 171 as I expected.
Interesting. Maybe a few mo's ahead of what we thought? Another obvious and telltale milestone will be Terafab's TCEQ batch plant application(s). The concrete needed will be massive - Samsung Taylor needed 5 batch plants and the steel/ aggregate delivered by rail. The Gibbons RR spur will probably be used similarly.
On that note and probably unrelated, Knife River applied for a TCEQ concrete batch plant in Carlos last week. Probably for the SH-30 4-lane bridge expansion project.
benchmark said:flyguysr5 said:
Need to update your timeline schedule. Flew over the site Sunday and the heavy earth moving equipment is already there with 200 plus acres are already cleared somewhat leveled with work continuing. If I knew how to post the video I would. Interesting is it is on the south east side of the lake accessed from Hwy 30 not at the old plant location and accessed from 244 and 171 as I expected.
Interesting. Maybe a few mo's ahead of what we thought? Another obvious and telltale milestone will be Terafab's TCEQ batch plant application(s). The concrete needed will be massive - Samsung Taylor needed 5 batch plants and the steel/ aggregate delivered by rail. The Gibbons RR spur will probably be used similarly.
On that note and probably unrelated, Knife River applied for a TCEQ concrete batch plant in Carlos last week. Probably for the SH-30 4-lane bridge expansion project.
I can't imagine the batch plant is in the works for the Hwy 30 project.
Don't hold your breath on the hwy 30 river project being started anytime soon.
Hope I am wrong.
I have clicked everything on your profile and don't see an email address.
And why would they put a batch plant in Carlos for a bridge project 8 mi away? Lots of places to put one closer.
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Judging off speed of the Tesla Austin plant being done, Elon really does not eff around on these things.
EBrazosAg said:
And why would they put a batch plant in Carlos for a bridge project 8 mi away? Lots of places to put one closer.
I don't know if the Carlos location for the batch plant is specifically noted but Grimes county has some nebulous addresses assigned to properties. A mile east of Carlos proper has homes with Anderson addresses. You can get to Iola and Roans Prairie and College Station city limits faster from there than you can drive to Anderson.
rockportred said:
Judging off speed of the Tesla Austin plant being done, Elon really does not eff around on these things.
The XAi data center he did in Memphis was even crazier on the timeline. I suspect we will all be shocked at how fast this moves.
The Hwy 30 contract isn't getting a final decision on bid till November according to what TxDOT told the land man handling ROW. That wouldn't lead to a batch plant now either. Just another reason I doubt that is what it's for.
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EBrazosAg said:
The Hwy 30 contract isn't getting a final decision on bid till November according to what TxDOT told the land man handling ROW. That wouldn't lead to a batch plant now either. Just another reason I doubt that is what it's for.
If it actually is Hwy 30 at Carlos then it seems too far from it, but it looks like that Knife River company is doing the Hwy 6 expansion:
https://investors.kniferiver.com/news/news-details/2025/Knife-River-Awarded-112-Million-Project-in-Texas/default.aspx
TxDOT Schematic of Hwy 6 Expansion Project Being Built Now
You are probably correct.
Batch plants will be erected onsite and materials brought in by rail. The amount of concrete needed is enormous and the cost of trucking to bring in aggregate by truck from Maysfield is high especially with a spur onsite. Knife river is likely looking for an eastern presence to serve TxDot projects and private development that occurs in support of Terafab.
And knife river has the asphalt on hwy 6, not the concrete. It's an asphalt project and concrete is only for structures, not paving
EBrazosAg said:
Interesting tonight- KBTX confirms that the water rights to pump from the Navasota to Gibbons Creek did not survive the TMPA power plant demise. I had always figured they didn't as the purpose for those rights- power plant cooling- had ended. Will be interesting to see if the new owners apply for new rights- or maybe they think it's not needed. I'm kinda surprised the Grimes Co group hadn't keyed in on it earlier. Assuming there is a plan to apply for Navasota water rights to the Brazos River Authority- otherwise why buy the pipeline, pump station and ROW?
If I understand it correctly, there are no more Brazos river authority rights to apply for. They'll need to be purchased/ leased from current owners.
The way I understand it is, they can go to a farmer on the Brazos in hearne and buy their rights, then another on the san leon river, etc until they buy or lease up what is needed to achieve their goals. It all comes from the same pool.
As I was saying before, my concern is they stack up way more brazos watershed pumping rights than the little navasota river was ever meant to support.
You don't hear much about these types of water rights because they rarely trade hands and nobody ever gives them up.
If anyone knows more about the details of how it works, would love to hear. I'm just going off of how it was explained to me by someone that owns some of these commercial use, Brazos river authority pumping rights.
The fact that no Brazos or Grimes county officials have dug into it is a little concerning. There should be a full understanding of future possibilities.
flyguysr5 said:
Need to update your timeline schedule. Flew over the site Sunday and the heavy earth moving equipment is already there with 200 plus acres are already cleared somewhat leveled with work continuing. If I knew how to post the video I would. Interesting is it is on the south east side of the lake accessed from Hwy 30 not at the old plant location and accessed from 244 and 171 as I expected.
Big shout out to flyguysr5 for the video!
Tailgate88 said:flyguysr5 said:
Need to update your timeline schedule. Flew over the site Sunday and the heavy earth moving equipment is already there with 200 plus acres are already cleared somewhat leveled with work continuing. If I knew how to post the video I would. Interesting is it is on the south east side of the lake accessed from Hwy 30 not at the old plant location and accessed from 244 and 171 as I expected.
Big shout out to flyguysr5 for the video!
Cool, thanks for sharing this!
SCHTICK00 said:
Batch plants will be erected onsite and materials brought in by rail. The amount of concrete needed is enormous and the cost of trucking to bring in aggregate by truck from Maysfield is high especially with a spur onsite.
Where is the spur to the Gibbons Creek site? Not seeing it on the map but I'm sure it's there somewhere.
Welp, you're probably right as I don't see tracks anywhere close. It's what I was told but I should have verified
Looks like it ran along 164/171 and directly into the power plant, but has long since been removed. Perhaps Elon will have it rebuilt but IDK how that would work.
AggiePhil said:
Where is the spur to the Gibbons Creek site? Not seeing it on the map but I'm sure it's there somewhere.
Runs almost due north about 8 miles from the old plant site to the BNSF railway line just south of Iola.
Yep. People forget that they quit burning lignite from the mine in Grimes county long before they closed the power plant. They switched to Powder River coal from Montana that was brought in by train.
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Yup no rail spur.there anymore. I son removed all the signal equipment and track crew came in and dismantleed it awhile back.
UmustBKidding said:
Yup no rail spur there anymore. I removed all the signal equipment and track crew came in and dismantled it awhile back.
When was that?
It's been over a year, I'll try to poke him
The 23 Google images show it's removed and state repaved the road after
https://maps.app.goo.gl/13RMNmKq61tgdvff8?g_st=ac
https://maps.app.goo.gl/13RMNmKq61tgdvff8?g_st=ac
I see that street view as April 2025, not 2023.
And the rail is still there in 2022 imagery. So it looks like it was removed sometime between April 2022 and April 2025.
And the rail is still there in 2022 imagery. So it looks like it was removed sometime between April 2022 and April 2025.
Dang, starting to look like they should've left it for a few more years. I bet ol' Elon would've put it to good use.
My son with bnsf signal said just the crossing equipment and install would be 750k because of regulatory changes. Elon could have boreing company drop the road and it would just be track to install. I am sure it was driven by complaints from state as to conditions of crossing and since no revenue just dog it out
Assuming the right-of-way (ROW) is still legal and groundwork is prepped, installing 8 miles of new rail infrastructure should cost less than $15 million. Very doable.UmustBKidding said:
My son with bnsf signal said just the crossing equipment and install would be 750k because of regulatory changes. Elon could have boreing company drop the road and it would just be track to install. I am sure it was driven by complaints from state as to conditions of crossing and since no revenue just dog it out