Was that White or Smith?
TERAFAB Development Watch Companies, Construction & Local Growth
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MsDoubleD81 said:
Was that White or Smith?
White.
Which podcasts do you listen to? Interested
BuddysBud said:Muzzleblast said:
The impact is all over the north end of the county. We travel FM244 to Hwy 30 into College Station.
We are all negatively impacted by the traffic.
I live off 244 south of Iola. The traffic isn't as bad as it was ten years ago with the horizontal drilling. Most of the big trucks on 244 seem to be heading north from Hwy-30 into Iola. I wonder if the data center buildout is causing the truck traffic?
Even so, that traffic is mild compared to the school traffic going into Iola every morning and afternoon.
I live very close to the site and have noticed no difference in traffic at all commuting to CS and back each day. My guess is that the only people noticing a difference now are people that live east of Timberwolf on Highway 30. Timberwolf is their primary entrance off Highway 30 to the site from what I can tell
BuddysBud said:
...as for permits, at least for building a house, the only permit/inspection requirement is for a septic system. I don't know what the Terafab plans are for sewage treatment and disposal...
Robots don't poop.
It is interesting that one of the big perceived advantages of this project was that it would use the brownfield site from the old lignite power plant. Now that it is being built, the main construction is on the opposite site of the lake.
I wonder if the actual power plant site will eventually be used for the onsite Terafab power generation site.
I wonder if the actual power plant site will eventually be used for the onsite Terafab power generation site.
AggiePhil said:
There's been concerns expressed that city construction projects should be expedited to beat Terafab to the punch before it begins consuming all the concrete regionally. From this video, looks like that ship has sailed. Pretty sure that was a far-fetched notion.
Also- is there anyone in the concrete business on here? Where are they rumored to be getting concrete? Manufacturing it onsite? Please advise.
Respectfully
Yancy '95
There will be multiple sites built close to Terafab and the rumor is the RFQ was for 13 million yards. I don't sell this stuff but that's coming from someone who does. Hard to honestly fathom if true.
Between that and Hwy 6, we are going to have a lot of concrete getting poured
I know nothing about the concrete business, but the company doing the Highway 6 project set up their own concrete "plant" (not sure what it's really called) right over by Central Park. You'd think a project the size of Terafab they would built their own plants onsite rather than relying on outside entities. When money is no object I think decisions like that get a lot easier.
Again, no actual knowledge of any of this stuff I'm just spitballing.
Edit, KaneIsAble all but confirmed that above.
Again, no actual knowledge of any of this stuff I'm just spitballing.
Edit, KaneIsAble all but confirmed that above.
Highway 6 runs both ways, so they needed double the concrete.
Bob Yancy said:
There's been concerns expressed that city construction projects should be expedited to beat Terafab to the punch before it begins consuming all the concrete regionally. From this video, looks like that ship has sailed. Pretty sure that was a far-fetched notion.
Also- is there anyone in the concrete business on here? Where are they rumored to be getting concrete? Manufacturing it onsite? Please advise.
Respectfully
Yancy '95
They'll have on-site batch plants. Samsung (Taylor) had 5 dedicated batch plants that supplied 650,000 yards of concrete.
650K vs 13 Million!!??? Whoa. That is insane!
Onsite batch plants, aggregate brought in by rail. The rail will be rebuilt. Hwy 6 is asphalt paving. Concrete demand on that project is minimal
That's a lot of concrete.
SCHTICK00 said:
Onsite batch plants, aggregate brought in by rail. The rail will be rebuilt. Hwy 6 is asphalt paving. Concrete demand on that project is minimal
It isn't insubstantial, for the overall project. They are pouring a lot of concrete for the bridges.
Compared to terafab, it is nothing, but for a highway project in Texas, it is middle of the road in need.
Fluor is more concerned about workers going to Terafab than supplies from what I hear. Probably with good reason. I hope both can keep it going. I've been impressed with the HWY 6 project progress.
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The Aggie dome has been their biggest helper
Likewise. I think they have done a good job so far. Weather has been favorable for the most part. I drive back and forth through there several times a week and the impact has really not been that bad.
Diddler_44 said:
Likewise. I think they have done a good job so far. Weather has been favorable for the most part. I drive back and forth through there several times a week and the impact has really not been that bad.
I have avoided driving on Hwy 6 between Fitch and Wm J Bryan in months. It's great that they are progressing well, but the number of posts I see on Nextdoor asking for body shop recommendations after collisions on Hwy 6 is reason enough to find creative ways to get to my destination that doesn't include Hwy 6.
tu ag said:SCHTICK00 said:
Onsite batch plants, aggregate brought in by rail. The rail will be rebuilt. Hwy 6 is asphalt paving. Concrete demand on that project is minimal
It isn't insubstantial, for the overall project. They are pouring a lot of concrete for the bridges.
Compared to terafab, it is nothing, but for a highway project in Texas, it is middle of the road in need.
50-100 yards here and there is nothing. The only sizable pours are bridge decks and they'll likely not exceed 300 yards. Paving is what consumes concrete in 1000+ yard pours.
BuddysBud said:
It is interesting that one of the big perceived advantages of this project was that it would use the brownfield site from the old lignite power plant. Now that it is being built, the main construction is on the opposite site of the lake.
I wonder if the actual power plant site will eventually be used for the onsite Terafab power generation site.
Terrafab will probably be grid connected, but the overwhelming majority of the power will be generated onsite.
Fed by natural gas...
I thought I remembered they got permits for gas power.
Gator92 said:BuddysBud said:
It is interesting that one of the big perceived advantages of this project was that it would use the brownfield site from the old lignite power plant. Now that it is being built, the main construction is on the opposite site of the lake.
I wonder if the actual power plant site will eventually be used for the onsite Terafab power generation site.
Terrafab will probably be grid connected, but the overwhelming majority of the power will be generated onsite.
Fed by natural gas...
The tax abatement documents state that Terafab would be off grid and have their own power plant fed by natural gas. My question was how they were going to use the old power plant site. I was speculating that they would build their gas generators on the same location where the old coal power plant was located.
BuddysBud said:Gator92 said:BuddysBud said:
It is interesting that one of the big perceived advantages of this project was that it would use the brownfield site from the old lignite power plant. Now that it is being built, the main construction is on the opposite site of the lake.
I wonder if the actual power plant site will eventually be used for the onsite Terafab power generation site.
Terrafab will probably be grid connected, but the overwhelming majority of the power will be generated onsite.
Fed by natural gas...
The tax abatement documents state that Terafab would be off grid and have their own power plant fed by natural gas. My question was how they were going to use the old power plant site. I was speculating that they would build their gas generators on the same location where the old coal power plant was located.
That makes the most sense.
The left cannot kill the Spirit of Charlie Kirk.
FYI. Knife River applied to TCEQ about 2 months ago for 2 concrete batch plants near Carlos. The application is for permanent plants (not temporary) with a combined capacity rating of 300 CY/hr. This is a very big facility.
That's 5 years of nonstop max production to reach the estimated 13mil CY. The size and scope of Terafab is really hard to comprehend.
benchmark said:
FYI. Knife River applied to TCEQ about 2 months ago for 2 concrete batch plants near Carlos. The application is for permanent plants (not temporary) with a combined capacity rating of 300 CY/hr. This is a very big facility.
I'm no expert, but I figured they'd be manufacturing their own onsite, and that they'd move way faster. Now we know.
Respectfully
Yancy '95
It's really going to be interesting to see how this impacts local construction. I remember a few years ago when the big Samsung facility towards Austin caused bar joists to take the better part of a year to get. Electrical gear and HVAC units over a year out during covid. Not to mention that any halfway decent workers are going to get pulled to Terafab for higher wages. I've already hear grumblings from local dirt/concrete guys that some of their better guys are leaving for Fluor and now Terafab.
I'm wondering if both could still happen. Maybe Knife River is thinking they will get some supplemental type business form TF but they are positioning themselves for the inevitable support companies that will surely be built in the area, even extending to new retail/housing/commercial that are indirectly related.
MyNameIsJeff said:
That's 5 years of nonstop max production to reach the estimated 13mil CY. The size and scope of Terafab is really hard to comprehend.
Not sure about the 13mil CY estimate. Sounds way too high IMO.
benchmark said:MyNameIsJeff said:
That's 5 years of nonstop max production to reach the estimated 13mil CY. The size and scope of Terafab is really hard to comprehend.
Not sure about the 13mil CY estimate. Sounds way too high IMO.
Is it really that high for an estimated 100 Million sq foot facility?? Plus roads, parking lots etc etc. Not saying they will hit that 100MM sqft number, but doesn't seem that high to me given that estimate.
Quick and simple math would put the 100M SF building at 3.5' thick for 13M CY of concrete.
But that is not a reasonable assumption, because there is obviously concrete driveways, structural slab support, walls, etc. Plus all the concrete needed for the underground FEL (Free electron laser). Rumors are that Musk is building some sort of accelerometer underneath the building.
But that is all above my paygrade and comprehension level!
But that is not a reasonable assumption, because there is obviously concrete driveways, structural slab support, walls, etc. Plus all the concrete needed for the underground FEL (Free electron laser). Rumors are that Musk is building some sort of accelerometer underneath the building.
But that is all above my paygrade and comprehension level!
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