Eye opening. It's not just license plates. Drones. AI. It's a 'follow the money' dive into Flock. Worth a watch...
https://substack.com/@theleahfiles/note/c-281581025 Bonus: Definitely would! ;-)

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Without stating an opinion on Flock cameras. How many on this thread against them have a Ring doorbell, or similar, or surveillance cameras on their house that see parts of a neighbor's yard or into the street?

BTW, for the folks saying that they won't go into a neighborhood with Flock cameras, every entrance to Home Depot and Lowes parking lots have a Flock camera. You might want to try True Value.

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You do see the difference in a Flock camera and a Ring doorbell on a house or a private security camera at a home?

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Use Eufy and never upload to an exterior host

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You should research that more. Eufy is not good for data privacy. All the thumbnails their system takes are stored on the cloud. Who know what Eufy is mining and tracking from them. Unless you're self hosting, your data is going to the cloud and being resold.

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That's the point. I am self hosting

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Anyone can film you in a public space. It wouldn't be illegal for the government to directly own these cameras.

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I think the keywords in this argument would be "Anyone" and "Government". Perhaps "Public Space" would fall in their too.

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EMY92 said:

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Without stating an opinion on Flock cameras. How many on this thread against them have a Ring doorbell, or similar, or surveillance cameras on their house that see parts of a neighbor's yard or into the street?

BTW, for the folks saying that they won't go into a neighborhood with Flock cameras, every entrance to Home Depot and Lowes parking lots have a Flock camera. You might want to try True Value.

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You do see the difference in a Flock camera and a Ring doorbell on a house or a private security camera at a home?

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Use Eufy and never upload to an exterior host

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You should research that more. Eufy is not good for data privacy. All the thumbnails their system takes are stored on the cloud. Who know what Eufy is mining and tracking from them. Unless you're self hosting, your data is going to the cloud and being resold.

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That's the point. I am self hosting

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I have a eufy camera but haven't installed it yet. Like I mentioned earlier, it's more for wildlife tracking than security because we get bears on our porch, but I plan to self-host it.

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If you are a law abiding citizen why would you be against these cameras? I am in favor of them if they reduce crime or aid in catching wanted criminals.

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You have a cell phone on you at all times, even if you get rid of flock cameras it will be easy to know everything about you.

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My cell phone, which i VOLUNTARILY, own and carry does not film me and my vehicle. I can leave it at home whenever I choose.

Next!

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It may not film you, but but it knows everywhere you go, what you search, who you call/text/email, etc.

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I just checked out the camera locations in my town. Very odd placement and not where I would place them if I were LEO or government official. How are the locations determined?

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In my hometown it looks like they are at every main entry and exit to and from the city and near schools with one exception. The local Home Depot has five Flock cameras covering every entrance and the entire parking lot. Sure seems odd.

I don't see how this doesn't go the way of the traffic cam. These aren't for safety or law enforcement, they are for one purpose - surveillance. It is a blatant invasion of privacy.

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I live in a small town, and the cameras have been set up on roads leading into/out of town and around schools. However, it is the other locations that I find odd. Also, the Home Depot here is the only location that has two. I guess they are a subscriber.

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stetson said:

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I just checked out the camera locations in my town. Very odd placement and not where I would place them if I were LEO or government official. How are the locations determined?

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In my hometown it looks like they are at every main entry and exit to and from the city and near schools with one exception. The local Home Depot has five Flock cameras covering every entrance and the entire parking lot. Sure seems odd.

I don't see how this doesn't go the way of the traffic cam. These aren't for safety or law enforcement, they are for one purpose - surveillance. It is a blatant invasion of privacy.

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I live in a small town, and the cameras have been set up on roads leading into/out of town and around schools. However, it is the other locations that I find odd. Also, the Home Depot here is the only location that has two. I guess they are a subscriber.

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Our Lowe's has two permanent police cars parked at entrance, one of those big parking lot Police eye in the sky things, and presumably flock cameras. It's hard core. They must have had serious crime there before.

Came across this video last night. I have no idea what any of this particular channels backstory is, but wow he sure seems to have touched a nerve with the Flock people. Just the fact that they are openly antagonistic and defensive on social media is quite telling.

I found it interesting they hit back with a post because he so horribly offended them, but didn't seem to be taking legal action. That part seems telling. If he were factually incorrect they could use legal recourse, but instead they use a bully pulpit.

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Without stating an opinion on Flock cameras. How many on this thread against them have a Ring doorbell, or similar, or surveillance cameras on their house that see parts of a neighbor's yard or into the street?

BTW, for the folks saying that they won't go into a neighborhood with Flock cameras, every entrance to Home Depot and Lowes parking lots have a Flock camera. You might want to try True Value.

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Call me back when Ring begins using individual household data in cooperation with other Ring partners and utilizes AI to stitch and merge all individual Ring data into a seamless and searchable video database.

Edit to add... A searchable database... Well only searchable by government agencies and law enforcement. Not individuals, and you won't even have any recourse to know who or when that database was used. Until they come for you.

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Not sure if a joke or not?

Wasn't it Ring that was going to integrate with Flock and AI to stitch tracking and cameras all together?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/16/amazon-ring-cameras-surveillance-law-enforcement-crime-police-investigations.html

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Without stating an opinion on Flock cameras. How many on this thread against them have a Ring doorbell, or similar, or surveillance cameras on their house that see parts of a neighbor's yard or into the street?

BTW, for the folks saying that they won't go into a neighborhood with Flock cameras, every entrance to Home Depot and Lowes parking lots have a Flock camera. You might want to try True Value.

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Call me back when Ring begins using individual household data in cooperation with other Ring partners and utilizes AI to stitch and merge all individual Ring data into a seamless and searchable video database.

Edit to add... A searchable database... Well only searchable by government agencies and law enforcement. Not individuals, and you won't even have any recourse to know who or when that database was used. Until they come for you.

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Not sure if a joke or not?

Wasn't it Ring that was going to integrate with Flock and AI to stitch tracking and cameras all together?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/16/amazon-ring-cameras-surveillance-law-enforcement-crime-police-investigations.html

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First I've heard about that.
100% against that. Full stop. Zero debate.

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Without stating an opinion on Flock cameras. How many on this thread against them have a Ring doorbell, or similar, or surveillance cameras on their house that see parts of a neighbor's yard or into the street?

BTW, for the folks saying that they won't go into a neighborhood with Flock cameras, every entrance to Home Depot and Lowes parking lots have a Flock camera. You might want to try True Value.

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Call me back when Ring begins using individual household data in cooperation with other Ring partners and utilizes AI to stitch and merge all individual Ring data into a seamless and searchable video database.

Edit to add... A searchable database... Well only searchable by government agencies and law enforcement. Not individuals, and you won't even have any recourse to know who or when that database was used. Until they come for you.

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Not sure if a joke or not?

Wasn't it Ring that was going to integrate with Flock and AI to stitch tracking and cameras all together?

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/16/amazon-ring-cameras-surveillance-law-enforcement-crime-police-investigations.html

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First I've heard about that.
100% against that. Full stop. Zero debate.

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I thought we learned from the case of Savannah Guthrie's mother that Ring cameras were already doing this.

Wait till you guys hear about the traffic cameras. Most law enforcement use those to track people, because its actually in real time.

Ok, back to causing chaos on other threads.

That Ring was able to recover unsaved clips from non-subscribers or they were directly feeding everyone's camera feed to 3rd party companies for AI compilation?

My understanding (very limited follow) for the Guthrie case was she was not a ring subscriber but as such there was limited feed from your camera to your device or phone. They don't actively save those clips, but they are cached in their system unorganized until the disk space is overwritten (nothing is truly deleted until the disk space is overwritten), so they were arduously able to recover the stills.

Has no one watched an episode of Blue Bloods or any other crime show?

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If you are a law abiding citizen why would you be against these cameras? I am in favor of them if they reduce crime or aid in catching wanted criminals.

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Because, even though I have size 17 feet, my IQ is higher than that. Way higher.

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Has no one watched an episode of Blue Bloods or any other crime show?

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No, I'm not a woman.

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Has no one watched an episode of Blue Bloods or any other crime show?

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No, I'm not a woman.

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LOL, BB is hardly that.

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JFC, I live out in the county and there is one ~200 yards from my house. I assume the neighborhood next to us put that in on purpose for their own HOA use?? It's at the start of the street that goes into their neighborhood.

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Yes. Flock salesperson sold the HOA on security to monitor who comes in and out of the hood.

Read somewhere... maybe here. Someone saying their HOA was charged less than the cost of the camera for the install. Implication was they're selling the data that collect.

NOT just taping license plates

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Man, I'll be a hard no if our 7 house neighborhood starts talking about this for us. I'm putting up my own cameras but that's primarily for bears, mountain lions, etc. If you want to try and burgle a house in our area, you are risking your life even being outside at night. And then you have to face my weaponry if you make it past the wildlife.

Flocks are unnecessary.

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JFC, I live out in the county and there is one ~200 yards from my house. I assume the neighborhood next to us put that in on purpose for their own HOA use?? It's at the start of the street that goes into their neighborhood.

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Yes. Flock salesperson sold the HOA on security to monitor who comes in and out of the hood.

Read somewhere... maybe here. Someone saying their HOA was charged less than the cost of the camera for the install. Implication was they're selling the data that collect.

NOT just taping license plates

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Man, I'll be a hard no if our 7 house neighborhood starts talking about this for us. I'm putting up my own cameras but that's primarily for bears, mountain lions, etc. If you want to try and burgle a house in our area, you are risking your life even being outside at night. And then you have to face my weaponry if you make it past the wildlife.

Flocks are unnecessary.

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You forgot to include Labrador retrievers.

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JFC, I live out in the county and there is one ~200 yards from my house. I assume the neighborhood next to us put that in on purpose for their own HOA use?? It's at the start of the street that goes into their neighborhood.

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Yes. Flock salesperson sold the HOA on security to monitor who comes in and out of the hood.

Read somewhere... maybe here. Someone saying their HOA was charged less than the cost of the camera for the install. Implication was they're selling the data that collect.

NOT just taping license plates

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Your license plates aren't attached with screws?

"If you've got nothing to hide what are you worried about?"

"a Flock vice president logged into the Dunwoody PD’s Flock system and looked at a camera in the children’s gymnastics room of a private community center here in Dunwoody.

He did not look at any other cameras in the entire 400-camera network that day."https://t.co/CwhLqOMwvz

— DeFlock (@therealDeFlock) July 20, 2026

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I just checked out the camera locations in my town. Very odd placement and not where I would place them if I were LEO or government official. How are the locations determined?

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In my hometown it looks like they are at every main entry and exit to and from the city and near schools with one exception. The local Home Depot has five Flock cameras covering every entrance and the entire parking lot. Sure seems odd.

I don't see how this doesn't go the way of the traffic cam. These aren't for safety or law enforcement, they are for one purpose - surveillance. It is a blatant invasion of privacy.

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I live in a small town, and the cameras have been set up on roads leading into/out of town and around schools. However, it is the other locations that I find odd. Also, the Home Depot here is the only location that has two. I guess they are a subscriber.

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The Bryan Lowe's has one at each parking lot entrance. My guess is for shoplifting gangs coming in from Houston and elsewhere.

CSTAT has them on the rural roads going out to places like Lick Creek Park and those outer subdivisions.

BrazCo has them on highways coming in like OSR.

Flock cameras and AI data centers are just a couple of stepping stones to creating 15-minute cities.

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Without stating an opinion on Flock cameras. How many on this thread against them have a Ring doorbell, or similar, or surveillance cameras on their house that see parts of a neighbor's yard or into the street?

BTW, for the folks saying that they won't go into a neighborhood with Flock cameras, every entrance to Home Depot and Lowes parking lots have a Flock camera. You might want to try True Value.

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You do see the difference in a Flock camera and a Ring doorbell on a house or a private security camera at a home?

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Use Eufy and never upload to an exterior host

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You should research that more. Eufy is not good for data privacy. All the thumbnails their system takes are stored on the cloud. Who know what Eufy is mining and tracking from them. Unless you're self hosting, your data is going to the cloud and being resold.

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That's the point. I am self hosting

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Eufy isn't self hosted. That's the point. They sold you on a marketing lie. All of your notifications go through their servers and data is stored in the cloud.

So I'm a little confused.....

What would be the argument against a private company installing these at their own business? I noticed the local Lowes and Home depot have these - it seems obvious they should be able to have these for loss protection, if they desire.

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The Medici at 3284 Northside Parkway is a beacon of exclusivity and sophistication nestled within the prestigious Piazza at Paces in West Buckhead.

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https://www.bisnow.com/atlanta/news/office/flock-safety-doubling-office-moving-hq-to-the-medici-132994

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An Atlanta-based security technology firm is expanding its headquarters and flocking its employees to a larger location near Midtown.

Flock Safety inked a 35K SF lease at The Medici, a six-story, 159K SF office building off Northside Parkway on the Westside of Atlanta, co-founder Paige Todd confirmed to Bisnow. Piedmont Realty Trust filed permits earlier this month with the city of Atlanta's planning department to prepare space for Flock Safety.

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So I'm a little confused.....

What would be the argument against a private company installing these at their own business? I noticed the local Lowes and Home depot have these - it seems obvious they should be able to have these for loss protection, if they desire.

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The only benefit of Flock vs a different stand alone security monitoring system is that Flock is also used away from the store in public, which in theory makes it easier to track down a suspect.

But if the public keeps pushing back on public surveillance (which they should), then Flock becomes less beneficial to stores as I would assume it's more expensive than standalone security systems.

The store can do whatever they want, but the store only sees the bigger benefit of Flock if the general populace is indifferent to being surveiled in public. I haven't seen an argument against stores using Flock. Their business, their choice. It's the public surveillance that people are pushing back on outside of private businesses.

Thank you.

How can we tell what law enforcement agencies have ties to flock? I know most PDs have their own automated license plate readers. I looked at that deflock website but can't see a way to tell which are private and which are government.