TheCurl84 said:

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Lindsay Graham would feel right at home in this thread.

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Makes me wonder if some of these folks are Americans or
Israeli.

They're dispensationalists

BQ78 said:

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Israel had nothing to do with his wife's death. If anything her death should have motivated him to end terrorism in the middle east.

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I understand that/agree, but per his letter he has some emotional belief otherwise. I am just trying to give grace toward someone who lost their spouse, is all.

He also should, I'd think, appreciate that '47 has thus far eliminated the two largest funders of terrorism in the world; (a) USAID, and (b) the IRGC, in rapid succession.

To me, that would be the big picture rationally, no matter one's opinions of Likud etc.

agdoc2001 said:

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Lol. "No imminent threat"

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This!

I didn't have a good feeling about him being nominated for Director NCTC while watching his confirmation hearings last summer.

Iran has been an imminent threat to us and the free world since the day the 1979 Iranian Revolution happened.

How he could not see that Iran has and still possesses an imminent threat to us for almost 50 years is mystifying!

A broken thought process for sure.

Oh good, another one.

The Tucker thread is that way --->

we all know he's going to be featured, so just put it in there, please.

Isn't Iran bombing all those around them evidence enough as to why they should not have nukes?

agdoc2001 said:

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Lol. "No imminent threat"

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No ****

They have been an eminent threat since they took American hostages when they were founded


Make Iran Free Again MIFA

Old May Banker said:

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If you know that a nation is led by bad actors...
And you know that nation is not to be trusted....
And you know that nation will eventually have to be dealt with...
And you know that nation has killed hundreds of thousands and sponsored terrorism to do the same...
And you know that nation is a constant threat to develop nuclear weaponry...
And you know that nation uses proxies to attack you and your closest ally in the region....
And you know that your ally that was previously attacked has maybe the best intelligence in the world about the bad actors....
And you know that that intelligence has patiently waited to get all the leadership of the bad actors in one location..
And you know that your ally is going to "strike while the iron is hot..."

Then what exactly is there to wait for?

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So was Trump wrong to say we should have never gone into Iraq?

Yukon Cornelius said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.

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I would agree if we knew that was true. Truth is zero evidence for that has ever been presented to the American people. Last year th cia disagreed with the idea Iran was weeks away. We launched those attacks based on Mossad intelligence not our own.

Until actual evidence is presented to the American people this has the feelings of Iraq 2.0. We invaded that nation based on lies. Now it may leave to be true that Iran was actually very close to nuclear weapons but we ultimately don't know. What we do know is that narrative has been pushed for 30 years now and we did this bit in Iraq already.

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Forget the nukes. Whether they were weeks, months, or even year's away from having a nuclear weapon, it's irrelevant. We all agree they were headed that way and they stated as much. What we are seeing now, is they had, and were amassing enough short range, long range missiles and a drone arsenal to already be a formidable threat. Given more time, they would be able to overwhelm our's or Israel's capability to stop them from their stated goal. We may have decimated their nuclear program, which they immediately restarted, but we didn't decimate their missile and done programs. With their air defenses in shambles at the moment, now was the time to finish the job and render them toothless. They've cause or killed enough Americans over the decades to more than justify this action by us alone.

TLDR...A terrorist organization was at it's weakest in decades, the time was now.

And the cherry on top, this hurts China!

Old May Banker said:

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If you know that a nation is led by bad actors...
And you know that nation is not to be trusted....
And you know that nation will eventually have to be dealt with...
And you know that nation has killed hundreds of thousands and sponsored terrorism to do the same...
And you know that nation is a constant threat to develop nuclear weaponry...
And you know that nation uses proxies to attack you and your closest ally in the region....
And you know that your ally that was previously attacked has maybe the best intelligence in the world about the bad actors....
And you know that that intelligence has patiently waited to get all the leadership of the bad actors in one location..
And you know that your ally is going to "strike while the iron is hot..."

Then what exactly is there to wait for?

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I will just say, with all this being true long before 2025, it would have been good if Trump had mentioned this priority when he was running for office. This is a rather large "oh by the way" policy adjustment.

Attacking Iran has been justifiable at any time in the last 40 years. To make the "no imminent threat" claim is to just admit you are either blind, stupid, or craven. They have been a scourge and the mullah's path was always going to lead to here.

TheCurl84 said:

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Old May Banker said:

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If you know that a nation is led by bad actors...
And you know that nation is not to be trusted....
And you know that nation will eventually have to be dealt with...
And you know that nation has killed hundreds of thousands and sponsored terrorism to do the same...
And you know that nation is a constant threat to develop nuclear weaponry...
And you know that nation uses proxies to attack you and your closest ally in the region....
And you know that your ally that was previously attacked has maybe the best intelligence in the world about the bad actors....
And you know that that intelligence has patiently waited to get all the leadership of the bad actors in one location..
And you know that your ally is going to "strike while the iron is hot..."

Then what exactly is there to wait for?

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I will just say, with all this being true long before 2025, it would have been good if Trump had mentioned this priority when he was running for office. This is a rather large "oh by the way" policy adjustment.

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Last I checked, I don't give my opponent my gameplan.

Well bye Falisha ! Another Obama stuge leaves his position

Your president, Netanyahu, has been claiming for 20 years that Iran was "weeks away" from a nuclear weapon.

nortex97 said:

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ETA, I think he likely has issues with his wife's death being 'caused by' Israel somehow, and that emotional anger has perhaps led him to some...wrong conclusions.

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He's a professional widower. If he didn't have her to remind everyone, he'd have nothing to talk about.

The question is how do we achieve that long term. Drones are super easy and cheap to make. Do we have drones 24/7 for ever? Curious what the exit strategy is. We "obliterated" their nuke program less than12 months ago and now this. How do we guarantee in another 12 months we aren't right back to here?

Maybe. Even probably in hindsight .

Iraq then is nothing like Iran now particularly in terms of spreading misery everywhere.

In this 47 year long confict it would have been much more prudent to wait until it was too late to do anything at all.

Or something.

Joe Kent seemed like a really good America First dude when he ran for congress. Should have been a good fit in the Trump admin but maybe counter terrorism wasn't it. He obviously didn't agree with the decision makers on a very big decision. But there was a better way to resign than posting his letter on X.

Spotted Ag said:

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No imminent threat but they struck US bases and interests with their rockets and missiles. Yeah, OK.

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And through their terrorist proxies attacked private shipping.

Lost in all of this...he evidently sucked at his job and should have been let go long ago. Director of the National Counteriterrorism Center stating the country responsible for the single most state prevalent sponsored terrorism is no imminent threat to our nation. SERIOUSLY?! No one sees anything wrong with this?

blah blab Jews, blah blah Israeli conspiracy, blah blah Netanyahu....yall ever get tired for repeating the same stupid tropes., oh i forgot blah blah blah USS Liberty.

Agsrback12 said:

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Isn't Iran bombing all those around them evidence enough as to why they should not have nukes?

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The ideology of their regime to wipe Israel off the map and bring about the Islamic version of Armageddon was also evidence enough for them to be a threat. Not to mention the decades of them directly funding, arming, and supporting terrorist groups killing Americans and our allies.

To say Iran posed no imminent threat is to ignore reality.

Rapier108 said:

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nortex97 said:

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This guy is CIA and while he has served honorably (lost his wife etc) I think the political angle is unmistakable in that letter.

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He'll be on all the leftwing media outlets as another token "Republican" to bash Trump.

Then he'll switch back to being a Democrat.

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What are the chances he writes a book?

RGLAG85 said:

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TheCurl84 said:

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Old May Banker said:

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If you know that a nation is led by bad actors...
And you know that nation is not to be trusted....
And you know that nation will eventually have to be dealt with...
And you know that nation has killed hundreds of thousands and sponsored terrorism to do the same...
And you know that nation is a constant threat to develop nuclear weaponry...
And you know that nation uses proxies to attack you and your closest ally in the region....
And you know that your ally that was previously attacked has maybe the best intelligence in the world about the bad actors....
And you know that that intelligence has patiently waited to get all the leadership of the bad actors in one location..
And you know that your ally is going to "strike while the iron is hot..."

Then what exactly is there to wait for?

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I will just say, with all this being true long before 2025, it would have been good if Trump had mentioned this priority when he was running for office. This is a rather large "oh by the way" policy adjustment.

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Last I checked, I don't give my opponent my gameplan.

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Absolutely. And to your point about disclosing the 'game plan' Obama also didn't campaign on ramming through Obamacare on a party line vote with zero bipartisan input, and then have the author laugh at deceiving the American people that the 'penalty' was actually a 'tax' when argued before the Roberts court. "John, the election's over, I won."

Obamacare has led to the death of many more Americans than Epic Fury, fwiw, to say nothing of the trillions in escalating costs/waste/fraud it intentionally facilitated.

I absolutely voted for this action vs. Iran's ruling class of murderers.

American Hardwood said:

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Attacking Iran has been justifiable at any time in the last 40 years. To make the "no imminent threat" claim is to just admit you are either blind, stupid, or craven. They have been a scourge and the mullah's path was always going to lead to here.

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Blind, stupid or craven, huh? Well at least we know you are reasonable and rational.

rgag12 said:

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A country that was openly stockpiling weapons grade nuclear material, and ramping up their war industry to G7 levels was not a threat and would never be a threat.

Right

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Israel or Iran

HoustonAggie11 said:

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blah blab Jews, blah blah Israeli conspiracy, blah blah Netanyahu....yall ever get tired for repeating the same stupid tropes., oh i forgot blah blah blah USS Liberty.

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Are you America first or Israel first?

t_J_e_C_x said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.

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Didn't Trump already obliterate their nuke capabilities?

Analysis: If Trump said Iran's nuclear program was 'obliterated,' why is he looking to strike again? | CNN Politics https://share.google/fR8VBFms0AlzF1b6M

This war is about the Jewish control over America. If you ever listen to Fuentes he's spot on about how they control American politics. It's not about nuclear capabilities.

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So you believe Hitler is an admirable upright moral person that Fuentes portrays?

Desert Power said:

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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blah blab Jews, blah blah Israeli conspiracy, blah blah Netanyahu....yall ever get tired for repeating the same stupid tropes., oh i forgot blah blah blah USS Liberty.

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Are you America first or Israel first?

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What does being Isarel first look like exactly? Are you denying Iran is a bad actor been killing Americans for years and would like to destroy us?

and now I see Funtes is being referenced here as some sort of credible new source lmao

Who do you think would be the higher threat to use a nuke offensively ?

Captain Ahab:
"Aye, aye! it was that accursed white whale that razeed me; made a poor pegging lubber of me for ever and a day!"

t_J_e_C_x said:

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Rapier108 said:

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t_J_e_C_x said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.

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Didn't Trump already obliterate their nuke capabilities?

Analysis: If Trump said Iran's nuclear program was 'obliterated,' why is he looking to strike again? | CNN Politics https://share.google/fR8VBFms0AlzF1b6M

This war is about the Jewish control over America. If you ever listen to Fuentes he's spot on about how they control American politics. It's not about nuclear capabilities.

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Guess what, destroyed stuff can be rebuilt.

Your antisemitism is glaring for all to see. No surprise you love Fuentes.

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Its not antisemitic to call out foreign influence in our government. Get over yourself

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You cited Fuentes who is antisemitic and places one of the most evil person in the history, Adolf Hitler, of mankind on a pedestal.

Yukon Cornelius said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.

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I would agree if we knew that was true. Truth is zero evidence for that has ever been presented to the American people. Last year th cia disagreed with the idea Iran was weeks away. We launched those attacks based on Mossad intelligence not our own.

Until actual evidence is presented to the American people this has the feelings of Iraq 2.0. We invaded that nation based on lies. Now it may leave to be true that Iran was actually very close to nuclear weapons but we ultimately don't know. What we do know is that narrative has been pushed for 30 years now and we did this bit in Iraq already.

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Desert Power said:

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Your president, Netanyahu, has been claiming for 20 years that Iran was "weeks away" from a nuclear weapon.

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The Iranians were making the claim at the table with Witkoff and Kushner. Netanyahu has nothing to do with it.