Started this war due to pressure from Israel

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Ag with kids
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Desert Power said:

Your president, Netanyahu, has been claiming for 20 years that Iran was "weeks away" from a nuclear weapon.

We got the information that Iran had enough 60% enriched uranium to make 11 nukes from...wait for it...IRAN...
BMX Bandit
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but who stopped them the previous times?









gipper provided this last year when the same people were making the same rehashed wrong defense of iran and hamas

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3546723/replies/70419344
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The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so

ABATTBQ11
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t_J_e_C_x said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.


Didn't Trump already obliterate their nuke capabilities?

Analysis: If Trump said Iran's nuclear program was 'obliterated,' why is he looking to strike again? | CNN Politics https://share.google/fR8VBFms0AlzF1b6M

This war is about the Jewish control over America. If you ever listen to Fuentes he's spot on about how they control American politics. It's not about nuclear capabilities.


Because they can rebuild and we don't want to be back here in 5 years, it's another way to cut off oil to China, it solidifies security in s key energy corridor, and it takes one of Russia's strategic partners off the board. The real question is why wouldn't you take out a 50 year old thorn in your side when given the opportunity.

Nick Fuentes is a short sighted, mouth breathing moron.
Queso1
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I'm not going to listen to what a CIA officer and director in counterterrorism has to say. Instead, I'll rely on what the well informed folks on F16 have to say.
No Spin Ag
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Queso1 said:

I'm not going to listen to what a CIA officer and director in counterterrorism has to say. Instead, I'll rely on what the well informed folks on F16 have to say.


This guy gets it.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
MouthBQ98
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They aren't all in one place. Of course they dispersed some of their capability. We got a lot of it, not all of it.
UTExan
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Would OP be saying this if we had taken out North Korea's nuclear program decades ago?
Read the room: a nuclear armed dictatorship is inherently unstable and needs to eventually threaten its neighbors to maintain its own legitimacy.
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Rapier108
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Queso1 said:

I'm not going to listen to what a CIA officer and director in counterterrorism has to say. Instead, I'll rely on what the well informed folks on F16 have to say.

You will only listen if the CIA guy is anti-Israel.

If he was saying the opposite, you'd say he was under Israeli control.
Rapier108
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UTExan said:

Would OP be saying this if we had taken out North Korea's nuclear program decades ago?
Read the room: a nuclear armed dictatorship is inherently unstable and needs to eventually threaten its neighbors to maintain its own legitimacy.

Of course not. North Korea wouldn't have involved Israel/Jews.
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ttu_85 said:

jwhaby said:

Phatbob said:

jwhaby said:

I would really appreciate if you would shut the hell up with the accusations of anti-semitism

We could ignore lots of things that are relevant, but when the point of view is based on it, it's hard to ignore it.


I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you. It has nothing to do with religion. If being America First makes me an antisemite, then I'll gladly wear that scarlet letter proudly.

How does consistent Jew bashing make America first ? Seriously make a case. I thought America being first meant global leader, tech driver, innovator, vibrant economy, freedom, fair elections, reduced corruption, high standards of living. etc. Please make a case ?


Please point to any example where I have disparaged either the ethnicity or religion of Jews. You can't. Fact.
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Queso1 said:

I'm not going to listen to what a trained expert in propaganda and reshaping public opinion through misinformation campaigns has to say.


Fify
LMCane
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Why does incompetent liar Joe Kent claim his wife died "in a war manufactured by Israel"?

She was killed in 2019 by an ISIS suicide bomber while fighting in America's war against ISIS in Syria

as he wrote in 2020, "under President Trump's orders," for which war he praises Trump.
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Queso1 said:

I'm not going to listen to what a CIA officer and director in counterterrorism has to say. Instead, I'll rely on what the well informed folks on F16 have to say.

You mean like the ones who swore Hunter's laptop was fake and that Trump had colluded with the Russians? Those CIA professionals?
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
jwhaby
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BMX Bandit said:

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but who stopped them the previous times?









gipper provided this last year when the same people were making the same rehashed wrong defense of iran and hamas

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3546723/replies/70419344
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The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so




This is great. Sounds like Mossad is doing a great job without military assistance from the US. Keep going. I'm all for it. Just keep the US out of foreign wars. It's not that complicated.
Ag with kids
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Queso1 said:

I'm not going to listen to what a CIA officer and director in counterterrorism has to say. Instead, I'll rely on what the well informed folks on F16 have to say.

There are a number of people in the government as high or higher than him that say the opposite of what he says.

What makes him special? Because he's saying what you want to hear?
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UTExan said:

Would OP be saying this if we had taken out North Korea's nuclear program decades ago?
Read the room: a nuclear armed dictatorship is inherently unstable and needs to eventually threaten its neighbors to maintain its own legitimacy.


Not just that, they will hold you hostage. You can't effectively sanction them, and if they want something from you, all they need to do is start threatening with nukes. North Korea has leveraged that pretty effectively for decades, and they're basically regime change proof at this point. You can't get rid of them because they can ensure the price is too high, and when they act up you can't effectively put them down either.
Queso1
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He's one voice that was willing to resign based on it. That's worth something.
rangerdanger
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June of 2025 showed Iran's capabilities, or lack thereof, and basically presented this moment as a golden opportunity for Trump. I don't believe any of the talk that Iran was an immediate threat, but unfortunately for them they showed their cards to the wrong guy.
Who?mikejones!
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Of course, we dont really care about north Korea because they have little influence
richardag
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Desert Power said:

Your president, Netanyahu, has been claiming for 20 years that Iran was "weeks away" from a nuclear weapon.

Citations please.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
Phatbob
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Queso1 said:

He's one voice that was willing to resign based on it. That's worth something.


If you're going to resign anyways, might as well get some press and a book deal out of it. Sounds like a good retirement gig
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HoustonAggie11 said:

Desert Power said:

HoustonAggie11 said:

blah blab Jews, blah blah Israeli conspiracy, blah blah Netanyahu....yall ever get tired for repeating the same stupid tropes., oh i forgot blah blah blah USS Liberty.

Are you America first or Israel first?

What does being Isarel first look like exactly? Are you denying Iran is a bad actor been killing Americans for years and would like to destroy us?

and now I see Funtes is being referenced here as some sort of credible new source lmao

Exactly, seems the poster admires Fuentes and his abhorrent behavior.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
jwhaby
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richardag said:

Desert Power said:

Your president, Netanyahu, has been claiming for 20 years that Iran was "weeks away" from a nuclear weapon.

Citations please.


30 years. I hope video evidence is good enough for you. Of course, maybe this was taken out of context or maybe it was AI.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVPFSLUkTkX/?igsh=MXJtdDZwYjd1Nndp
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DCPD158 said:

One of the top counterterrorism experts in the administration says that Iran isn't an imminent threat to the US?

He should not have been allowed to resign, he should have been fired.


The supposed top counter terrorism expert was cut out of operational planning a long time ago.

richardag
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Desert Power said:

HoustonAggie11 said:

Desert Power said:

HoustonAggie11 said:

Desert Power said:

HoustonAggie11 said:

blah blab Jews, blah blah Israeli conspiracy, blah blah Netanyahu....yall ever get tired for repeating the same stupid tropes., oh i forgot blah blah blah USS Liberty.

Are you America first or Israel first?

What does being Isarel first look like exactly? Are you denying Iran is a bad actor been killing Americans for years and would like to destroy us?

and now I see Funtes is being referenced here as some sort of credible new source lmao

Let me ask you this, does depleting our stockpile of weapons on a country that is constantly trying to get us into conflicts sound good? Perchance, we save those same weapons and have them available to defend our country. Oh, I'm sorry that must be antisemitism talking.

lol depleting our stockpile, are you asserting the world's largest economy and superpower can't make more...Ayatollah is that you?

So, you are Israel first, got it.

Irrational argument, interest of separate nations often align totally.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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t_J_e_C_x said:

Rapier108 said:

t_J_e_C_x said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.


Didn't Trump already obliterate their nuke capabilities?

Analysis: If Trump said Iran's nuclear program was 'obliterated,' why is he looking to strike again? | CNN Politics https://share.google/fR8VBFms0AlzF1b6M

This war is about the Jewish control over America. If you ever listen to Fuentes he's spot on about how they control American politics. It's not about nuclear capabilities.

Guess what, destroyed stuff can be rebuilt.

Your antisemitism is glaring for all to see. No surprise you love Fuentes.


Its not antisemitic to call out foreign influence in our government. Get over yourself

Kind of like you should have done with China during the last Administration, right?
Rapier108
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ATX_AG_08 said:

DCPD158 said:

One of the top counterterrorism experts in the administration says that Iran isn't an imminent threat to the US?

He should not have been allowed to resign, he should have been fired.


The supposed top counter terrorism expert was cut out of operational planning a long time ago.



If true, would not be surprised if Tulsi might be on her way out as well.
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agdoc2001 said:

Lol. "No imminent threat"


It's fair to say that they were an imminent threat to Israel, for sure.

I think you can believe that, while we, and the world, would benefit from a regime change and limiting Iran's nuclear capability, by far the biggest threat was to Israel and they were driving the bus on Iran.

Israel and the US should not be joined at the hip. Our interests don't always coincide with theirs, and their priorities don't always match up with ours.

I think you'd be foolish to disregard the influence the pro-Israel lobby has on US politics. It goes back decades.

We should all have a dose of healthy skepticism regarding money from foreign interests playing a major role in our politics and with our politicians, shouldn't we?

Could we have stayed out of this and let Israel handle the threat on their own? They carried the load on the decapitation strikes and intelligence anyway. It's not like there isn't a history of our politicians being led into war due to bad intel and outside influences in that region.
Logos Stick
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BBC!!! LOL!

Whose sock are you?

Trump doesn't take orders from Israel.
richardag
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aggies101 said:

TxAgLaw03RW said:

I don't understand this logic. Should we wait until Iran is an imminent nuclear threat? Seems dumb.

hasn't Netanyahu been saying Iran is "weeks from a nuclear bomb" for decades? Trump is just the only one dumb enough to do this. Even Bush didn't try to invade Iran.

You're completely ignoring that the Iranian negotiator told Witcoff they had hundreds of kilograms of enriched uranian , enough to produce several nuclear bombs.
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Quote:

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The influence of foreign governments needs to be addressed.


Knew that one of the anti-semites would be first to post a brand new thread on this -


A sock with 28 posts in 11 years. A drive by post with no actual info, at that.

Someone really wants us to know they are displeased.

The block user feature is a useful tool in cases like this.
Phatbob
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DTP02 said:

agdoc2001 said:

Lol. "No imminent threat"


It's fair to say that they were an imminent threat to Israel, for sure.

I think you can believe that, while we, and the world, would benefit from a regime change and limiting Iran's nuclear capability, by far the biggest threat was to Israel and they were driving the bus on Iran.

Israel and the US should not be joined at the hip. Our interests don't always coincide with theirs, and their priorities don't always match up with ours.

I think you'd be foolish to disregard the influence the pro-Israel lobby has on US politics. It goes back decades.

We should all have a dose of healthy skepticism regarding money from foreign interests playing a major role in our politics and with our politicians, shouldn't we?

Could we have stayed out of this and let Israel handle the threat on their own? They carried the load on the decapitation strikes and intelligence anyway. It's not like there isn't a history of our politicians being led into war due to bad intel and outside influences in that region.

So you don't think we also had pressure from the other ME nations to deal with Iran? It was only Israel? I think you'd be foolish to think Israel was the only country pressuring us to do something in the region, except Israel is willing to put it's own lives on the line to do it. Maybe we shouldn't be joined at the hip with Fuentes and Tucker.
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TyHolden said:

October 7th 2023...fafo

I know its hard to believe but the Oct 7th attack wasn't against the United States.
richardag
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Desert Power said:

All of these people screaming "Anti-Semite!" are very reminiscent of people screaming "Racist!" "Islamaphobe!" "Transphobe!"

When your argument is weak or flawed, you people resort to name calling.

Iran isn't led by Islamic Antisemitism and hatred of Christianity. Iran's leadership hasn't called for the elimination of all faiths except Islam?
Iran's negotiators did admit on negotiations that had hundreds of kilograms of enriched uranium close to weapons grade?
We really need to rewrite our laws concerning libel and slander.
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richardag said:

aggies101 said:

TxAgLaw03RW said:

I don't understand this logic. Should we wait until Iran is an imminent nuclear threat? Seems dumb.

hasn't Netanyahu been saying Iran is "weeks from a nuclear bomb" for decades? Trump is just the only one dumb enough to do this. Even Bush didn't try to invade Iran.

You're completely ignoring that the Iranian negotiator told Witcoff they had hundreds of kilograms of enriched uranian , enough to produce several nuclear bombs.


Well we have our own intelligence. I would hope that we would not just take someone's "word" on something during negotiations. We were told that the greatest strike in history completely obliterated Iran s nuclear facilities and they were no longer a threat.

On another note I'm not sure if you are two weeks away from the nuclear weapon you have been trying to achieve for decades you let tha information out in the "negotiations". That makes zero sense.

Yes they have been trying to make a nuclear weapon for decades which is what we have been told. We obliterate all of their facilities now we are told by Trump they were 2 weeks away!

I have yet to hear it explained. How did they rebuild and be ready in less than a year after being obliterated but could not achieve success prior?

Maybe there is a valid answer but Trump has never explained it.
 
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