jwhaby said:

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UntoldSpirit said:

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aggies101 said:

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TxAgLaw03RW said:

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I don't understand this logic. Should we wait until Iran is an imminent nuclear threat? Seems dumb.

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hasn't Netanyahu been saying Iran is "weeks from a nuclear bomb" for decades? Trump is just the only one dumb enough to do this. Even Bush didn't try to invade Iran.

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Out of all countries with Nuke ambitions, Iran's radicals have expressed the biggest desire to use them. Their devotion to their apocalyptic beliefs is on full display. I don't know why anyone would doubt them after decades of commitment has been exhibited.

I believe the primary reason why other Presidents haven't done this is because of the threat of Iranian support from Russia and other countries, but that support has never been at it weakest as it is now, which is why this time is different than the past.

And our efforts to keep nuclear peace will NEVER be over. So those of you who are tired of it need to wake up. This is the way it's going to be for the foreseeable future. And this action isn't going to end it.

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I appreciate your commentary. Here are two reasons that I have to doubt them.

1) We've been told since 1995 that Iran is months away from producing a nuclear weapon that they will use against their enemies. This hasn't proven to be true. Maybe we actually stopped them this time, but who stopped them the previous times? Why didn't they develop the weapon and attack in the past if the US didn't destroy their nuclear capabilities?

2) we were told that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. This was not true, yet we still spent $3 trillion on the war and lost 4,500 soldiers. I'm not interested in a repeat.

These are two reasons why people might be skeptical of our intelligence or our motivations. Again, nothing to do with the Jewish religion.

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Counter points to consider:

I believe their have been actions in the past that prevented Iran from developing nukes more quickly, both from Israel and the US. Here is a Grok list:

• 1980s onward (initial US sanctions): Following the 1979 Islamic Revolution and hostage crisis, the US imposed broad sanctions, including an arms embargo and restrictions on nuclear-related technology transfers, effectively halting Western cooperation with Iran's early nuclear program.
• 2006 onward (UN Security Council sanctions): Starting with UNSC Resolution 1737 (December 2006), the international community imposed multiple rounds of sanctions banning sensitive nuclear technology transfers, freezing assets of key entities and individuals, and restricting Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile activities due to non-compliance with IAEA demands.
• Late 2000searly 2010s (expanded US and multilateral sanctions): Intensified economic measures (e.g., via the US Iran Sanctions Act and EU oil embargoes) targeted Iran's oil exports, banking, and finance, severely impacting the economy and pressuring Tehran over its enrichment program.
• 2010 (Stuxnet cyber operation Operation Olympic Games): A US-Israeli joint cyberattack deployed the Stuxnet worm against the Natanz enrichment facility, destroying around 1,000 centrifuges and delaying the program by an estimated 12 years.
• 20102012 (assassinations of nuclear scientists): Several Iranian scientists linked to the nuclear program were killed in targeted attacks (widely attributed to Israel/Mossad), including Massoud Ali Mohammadi (January 2010), Majid Shahriari (November 2010), and others through 2012 via car bombs or other methods.
• July 2020 (Natanz explosion/sabotage): A major explosion destroyed a centrifuge assembly building at Natanz (attributed to Israel), disrupting advanced centrifuge production.
• November 2020 (assassination of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh): The scientist considered the architect of Iran's possible military nuclear program was killed near Tehran using a remote-controlled weapon (attributed to Israel).
• April 2021 (Natanz power outage/sabotage): A cyber-physical attack caused a blackout and damaged advanced centrifuges at the underground Natanz facility (attributed to Israel), prompting Iran to accelerate enrichment to 60% purity.
• 20182025 (US "maximum pressure" sanctions reimposed): After withdrawing from the JCPOA in 2018, the US reinstated and expanded sanctions on oil, finance, and trade, aiming to cripple Iran's economy and nuclear funding.
• September 2025 (UN "snapback" sanctions triggered): The UK, France, and Germany activated the JCPOA's snapback mechanism at the UN, reinstating broad multilateral sanctions due to Iran's ongoing non-compliance and enrichment advances.
• June 2025 (Israeli Operation Rising Lion strikes): Israel launched large-scale airstrikes and operations targeting nuclear facilities (Natanz, Fordow, Isfahan), missile sites, and assassinations of nuclear scientists and military leaders, severely damaging centrifuge cascades, enrichment infrastructure, and related capabilities.
• June 2025 (US direct strikes on nuclear sites): In coordination with Israel, the US conducted airstrikes (including bunker-busters from B-2 bombers) on hardened underground facilities like Fordow and Natanz, setting back Iran's program by an estimated 12 years according to assessments.

These actions formed a multi-layered strategy of economic pressure, covert disruption, targeted killings, and (in 2025) overt military force. While they delayed progress at various points, Iran has often rebuilt or advanced in response, leading to repeated escalations.

<end Grok>

It would seem that the intelligence today, along with the outright bold statements of Iran and reluctance to concede their nuclear development, isn't just some kind of "op".

As for Iraq, Saddam Hussein's nuclear ambitions were extremely dangerous. The bi-partisan post analysis of the war said as much. The long term occupation and execution seem highly flawed, but this is exactly what Trump is not likely to do because he learned that lesson. I don't think Trump was gung ho about doing this until there appeared to be no other option, while this option was never more possible since Iran's support has waned.

Haleyscomet50 said:

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TyHolden said:

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October 7th 2023...fafo

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I know its hard to believe but the Oct 7th attack wasn't against the United States.

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Tell that to the 58 americans killed or taken hostage

jwhaby said:

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UntoldSpirit said:

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aggies101 said:

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TxAgLaw03RW said:

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I don't understand this logic. Should we wait until Iran is an imminent nuclear threat? Seems dumb.

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hasn't Netanyahu been saying Iran is "weeks from a nuclear bomb" for decades? Trump is just the only one dumb enough to do this. Even Bush didn't try to invade Iran.

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Out of all countries with Nuke ambitions, Iran's radicals have expressed the biggest desire to use them. Their devotion to their apocalyptic beliefs is on full display. I don't know why anyone would doubt them after decades of commitment has been exhibited.

I believe the primary reason why other Presidents haven't done this is because of the threat of Iranian support from Russia and other countries, but that support has never been at it weakest as it is now, which is why this time is different than the past.

And our efforts to keep nuclear peace will NEVER be over. So those of you who are tired of it need to wake up. This is the way it's going to be for the foreseeable future. And this action isn't going to end it.

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I appreciate your commentary. Here are two reasons that I have to doubt them.

1) We've been told since 1995 that Iran is months away from producing a nuclear weapon

• Citations please that since 1995 Iran isn't months away
• Explain Iran's negotiators did admit to having hundreds of kilograms of enriched uranium up to 60% and would be able to produce several nuclear bombs

that they will use against their enemies. This hasn't proven to be true. Maybe we actually stopped them this time, but who stopped them the previous times? Why didn't they develop the weapon and attack in the past if the US didn't destroy their nuclear capabilities?

2) we were told that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. This was not true, yet we still spent $3 trillion on the war and lost 4,500 soldiers. I'm not interested in a repeat.

These are two reasons why people might be skeptical of our intelligence or our motivations. Again, nothing to do with the Jewish religion.

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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TyHolden said:

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October 7th 2023...fafo

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I know its hard to believe but the Oct 7th attack wasn't against the United States.

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Tell that to the 58 americans killed or taken hostage

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Maybe it doesn't matter, but were they Americans or Dual-Citizens?

We've been the Great Satan since 1979. Target #1. Death to America at laterally every government meeting and rally in Iran for 47 years.

Do you get a government who is continuously and actively engaged in international terrorism and run by an apocalyptic religious cult acquire both ICBM technology and nuclear weapons and put themselves in an extremely unassailable future position when you have a window of opportunity to prevent it for years, maybe generations?

Hell yes there had been a growing threat to the USA and our interests domestically and abroad. We have been their number one target to trip off this apocalyptic prophecy for 47 years. Maybe it wasn't an existential threat, but it was surely a serious one. The world does not ignore you just because you claim to be able to ignore it.

Absolutist isolationists and no confrontational types are recklessly delusional. It is fine to avoid war and prioritize domestic issues. It is insane to pretend the rest of the planet really doesn't matter until it is beating down your door to take everything you have that they can.

The world would be so much simpler if such actions could be boiled down to "its the Israeli influence" or "the jews" or similar.

But that isnt real life.

I was on board with eliminating Iran when they kidnapped our sailors years ago under obama. We paid them instead.

Americans so far as the state dept is concerned.

My kids are dual citizens with another country

You going to minimize them too?

richardag said:

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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Desert Power said:

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HoustonAggie11 said:

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blah blab Jews, blah blah Israeli conspiracy, blah blah Netanyahu....yall ever get tired for repeating the same stupid tropes., oh i forgot blah blah blah USS Liberty.

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Are you America first or Israel first?

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What does being Isarel first look like exactly? Are you denying Iran is a bad actor been killing Americans for years and would like to destroy us?

and now I see Funtes is being referenced here as some sort of credible new source lmao

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Exactly, seems the poster admires Fuentes and his abhorrent behavior.

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Where have I said anything or cited anything Fuentes has said. You are just as crazed as anyone else haha

UTExan said:

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Would OP be saying this if we had taken out North Korea's nuclear program decades ago?
Read the room: a nuclear armed dictatorship is inherently unstable and needs to eventually threaten its neighbors to maintain its own legitimacy.

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Iran is led by an Islamic terroristic death cult. Your argument is baseless,

UntoldSpirit said:

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jwhaby said:

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UntoldSpirit said:

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aggies101 said:

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TxAgLaw03RW said:

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I don't understand this logic. Should we wait until Iran is an imminent nuclear threat? Seems dumb.

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hasn't Netanyahu been saying Iran is "weeks from a nuclear bomb" for decades? Trump is just the only one dumb enough to do this. Even Bush didn't try to invade Iran.

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Out of all countries with Nuke ambitions, Iran's radicals have expressed the biggest desire to use them. Their devotion to their apocalyptic beliefs is on full display. I don't know why anyone would doubt them after decades of commitment has been exhibited.

I believe the primary reason why other Presidents haven't done this is because of the threat of Iranian support from Russia and other countries, but that support has never been at it weakest as it is now, which is why this time is different than the past.

And our efforts to keep nuclear peace will NEVER be over. So those of you who are tired of it need to wake up. This is the way it's going to be for the foreseeable future. And this action isn't going to end it.

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I appreciate your commentary. Here are two reasons that I have to doubt them.

1) We've been told since 1995 that Iran is months away from producing a nuclear weapon that they will use against their enemies. This hasn't proven to be true. Maybe we actually stopped them this time, but who stopped them the previous times? Why didn't they develop the weapon and attack in the past if the US didn't destroy their nuclear capabilities?

2) we were told that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. This was not true, yet we still spent $3 trillion on the war and lost 4,500 soldiers. I'm not interested in a repeat.

These are two reasons why people might be skeptical of our intelligence or our motivations. Again, nothing to do with the Jewish religion.

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Counter points to consider:

I believe their have been actions in the past that prevented Iran from developing nukes more quickly, both from Israel and the US. Here is a Grok list:

• 1980s onward (initial US sanctions): Following the 1979 Islamic Revolution and hostage crisis, the US imposed broad sanctions, including an arms embargo and restrictions on nuclear-related technology transfers, effectively halting Western cooperation with Iran's early nuclear program.
• 2006 onward (UN Security Council sanctions): Starting with UNSC Resolution 1737 (December 2006), the international community imposed multiple rounds of sanctions banning sensitive nuclear technology transfers, freezing assets of key entities and individuals, and restricting Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile activities due to non-compliance with IAEA demands.
• Late 2000searly 2010s (expanded US and multilateral sanctions): Intensified economic measures (e.g., via the US Iran Sanctions Act and EU oil embargoes) targeted Iran's oil exports, banking, and finance, severely impacting the economy and pressuring Tehran over its enrichment program.
• 2010 (Stuxnet cyber operation Operation Olympic Games): A US-Israeli joint cyberattack deployed the Stuxnet worm against the Natanz enrichment facility, destroying around 1,000 centrifuges and delaying the program by an estimated 12 years.
• 20102012 (assassinations of nuclear scientists): Several Iranian scientists linked to the nuclear program were killed in targeted attacks (widely attributed to Israel/Mossad), including Massoud Ali Mohammadi (January 2010), Majid Shahriari (November 2010), and others through 2012 via car bombs or other methods.
• July 2020 (Natanz explosion/sabotage): A major explosion destroyed a centrifuge assembly building at Natanz (attributed to Israel), disrupting advanced centrifuge production.
• November 2020 (assassination of Mohsen Fakhrizadeh): The scientist considered the architect of Iran's possible military nuclear program was killed near Tehran using a remote-controlled weapon (attributed to Israel).
• April 2021 (Natanz power outage/sabotage): A cyber-physical attack caused a blackout and damaged advanced centrifuges at the underground Natanz facility (attributed to Israel), prompting Iran to accelerate enrichment to 60% purity.
• 20182025 (US "maximum pressure" sanctions reimposed): After withdrawing from the JCPOA in 2018, the US reinstated and expanded sanctions on oil, finance, and trade, aiming to cripple Iran's economy and nuclear funding.
• September 2025 (UN "snapback" sanctions triggered): The UK, France, and Germany activated the JCPOA's snapback mechanism at the UN, reinstating broad multilateral sanctions due to Iran's ongoing non-compliance and enrichment advances.
• June 2025 (Israeli Operation Rising Lion strikes): Israel launched large-scale airstrikes and operations targeting nuclear facilities (Natanz, Fordow, Isfahan), missile sites, and assassinations of nuclear scientists and military leaders, severely damaging centrifuge cascades, enrichment infrastructure, and related capabilities.
• June 2025 (US direct strikes on nuclear sites): In coordination with Israel, the US conducted airstrikes (including bunker-busters from B-2 bombers) on hardened underground facilities like Fordow and Natanz, setting back Iran's program by an estimated 12 years according to assessments.

These actions formed a multi-layered strategy of economic pressure, covert disruption, targeted killings, and (in 2025) overt military force. While they delayed progress at various points, Iran has often rebuilt or advanced in response, leading to repeated escalations.

<end Grok>

It would seem that the intelligence today, along with the outright bold statements of Iran and reluctance to concede their nuclear development, isn't just some kind of "op".

As for Iraq, Saddam Hussein's nuclear ambitions were extremely dangerous. The bi-partisan post analysis of the war said as much. The long term occupation and execution seem highly flawed, but this is exactly what Trump is not likely to do because he learned that lesson. I don't think Trump was gung ho about doing this until there appeared to be no other option, while this option was never more possible since Iran's support has waned.

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Let's hope you're right. Unfortunately, I don't trust our government…or any government really. It sounds very similar to the defense of communism. "Communism works, it's just that everyone before was doing it wrong." Maybe we will prevent war without spending trillions of dollars and losing thousands of lives, but I'm not holding my breath. Only time will tell.

jwhaby said:

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richardag said:

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Desert Power said:

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Your president, Netanyahu, has been claiming for 20 years that Iran was "weeks away" from a nuclear weapon.

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Citations please.

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30 years. I hope video evidence is good enough for you. Of course, maybe this was taken out of context or maybe it was AI.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVPFSLUkTkX/?igsh=MXJtdDZwYjd1Nndp

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Thank you.
Now explain Iran's negotiators admitting they had hundreds of of kilograms of enriched uranium enough to make several nuclear bombs.

Yawn, I don't believe any of these uniparty government employees. Especially intelligence

Haleyscomet50 said:

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TyHolden said:

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October 7th 2023...fafo

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I know its hard to believe but the Oct 7th attack wasn't against the United States.

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I seem to remember several US citizens killed and kidnapped

Who?mikejones! said:

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Americans so far as the state dept is concerned.

My kids are dual citizens with another country

You going to minimize them too?

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It was honestly just a question I didn't know the answer to until after I posted and then looked, and yes all of the captives were Dual-Citizens, American-Israeli or Israeli-American... I don't know if the order matters or if there is even an "order."

Further spawned more questions about the concept of dual-citizenship in my head, A. I didn't really think much about dual-citizenship until I found out all of the 58 Americans cited were Americans that could vote in Israel and in the US.

I dont feel strongly that we should or shouldn't minimize dual-citizens, but I do have questions about the practice itself now that I didn't have before.

I do wonder if they were forced to renounce and only claim one citizenship, which they'd renounce... but the practice is established and Supreme Court Blessed so it doesn't matter.

The world is big. I'm still learning things.

What countries do your children have dual-citizenry in, out of curiosity?

A big south american one

richardag said:

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jwhaby said:

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richardag said:

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Desert Power said:

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Your president, Netanyahu, has been claiming for 20 years that Iran was "weeks away" from a nuclear weapon.

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Citations please.

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30 years. I hope video evidence is good enough for you. Of course, maybe this was taken out of context or maybe it was AI.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVPFSLUkTkX/?igsh=MXJtdDZwYjd1Nndp

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Thank you.
Now explain Iran's negotiators admitting they had hundreds of of kilograms of enriched uranium enough to make several nuclear bombs.

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No thank you. You wanted proof that Bibi had been claiming that Iran was close to having nuclear weapons for the past 20 years. I provided 30+ years of proof. I'm not interested in engaging with people who constantly move the goal posts. Good day.

Joe Kent was registered as a Democrat until 2021.

Kent was affiliated with the Libertarian Party from 2012 to 2019, then switched to the Democratic Party in 2019. He remained a Democrat through 2020 (including voting for Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary that year. He… pic.twitter.com/QNtK3BRbCh

— Sarah Fields (@SarahisCensored) March 17, 2026

There’s more to the Joe Kent story than meets the eye. According to friends, apparently, Joe leaked intelligence under the nose of the Secretary of War. As a result, his access to classified information was removed several weeks ago. He’s not stepping down due to his allegiance…

— Buzz Patterson (@BuzzPatterson) March 17, 2026

TyHolden said:

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October 7th 2023...fafo

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Yep, Iran funds attack against Israel. Then US taxpayer spends 100s of billions striking Iran and rebuilding Israel after Iran retaliates.

First, run up the debt of America. #AmericaFirst

If Joe was leaking he would be prosecuted for espionage act, or called to testify at very least. Probably just a smear effort so his point about "no imminent threat" doesnt gain any traction.

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richardag said:

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jwhaby said:

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richardag said:

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Desert Power said:

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Your president, Netanyahu, has been claiming for 20 years that Iran was "weeks away" from a nuclear weapon.

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Citations please.

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30 years. I hope video evidence is good enough for you. Of course, maybe this was taken out of context or maybe it was AI.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVPFSLUkTkX/?igsh=MXJtdDZwYjd1Nndp

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Thank you.
Now explain Iran's negotiators admitting they had hundreds of of kilograms of enriched uranium enough to make several nuclear bombs.

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No thank you. You wanted proof that Bibi had been claiming that Iran was close to having nuclear weapons for the past 20 years. I provided 30+ years of proof. I'm not interested in engaging with people who constantly move the goal posts. Good day.

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We are talking about the present day threat, so it is relevant.

ATX_AG_08 said:

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Joe Kent was registered as a Democrat until 2021.

Kent was affiliated with the Libertarian Party from 2012 to 2019, then switched to the Democratic Party in 2019. He remained a Democrat through 2020 (including voting for Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primary that year. He… pic.twitter.com/QNtK3BRbCh

— Sarah Fields (@SarahisCensored) March 17, 2026

There’s more to the Joe Kent story than meets the eye. According to friends, apparently, Joe leaked intelligence under the nose of the Secretary of War. As a result, his access to classified information was removed several weeks ago. He’s not stepping down due to his allegiance…

— Buzz Patterson (@BuzzPatterson) March 17, 2026

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They might as well as cited the Easter Bunny as their sources.

So, youre possibly on board with minimizing my children's citizenship because they happen to hold citizenship in a second country as well, such citizenship gained through their mother.

Interesting

Capt Ahab - where is Joe Kents evidence? Anyone can say anything especially those who hate Israel.

Capt., are you Pakistani?

Joe Kent is not pro-American. His allegiance is questionable.

mjschiller said:

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Capt Ahab - where is Joe Kents evidence? Anyone can say anything especially those who hate Israel.

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Evidence that there was no evidence?

Joe was challenging this WH assertion -> " As President Trump has clearly and explicitly stated, he had strong and compelling evidence that Iran was going to attack the United States first."

Is the WH gaslighting? We have seen the FBI and CIA do countless pressers divulging terorist plots or attempts. Why not on this one with Iran? Maybe Tulsi/DNI doesnt want to tow the line this time. Maybe we find out tmrw:

🚨 JUST IN: DNI Tulsi Gabbard, FBI Director Kash Patel, and CIA Director John Ratcliffe are set to testify on terror cells in America.pic.twitter.com/cpiKhqiTQY

— Derrick Evans (@DerrickEvans4WV) March 16, 2026

richardag said:

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jwhaby said:

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richardag said:

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jwhaby said:

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richardag said:

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Desert Power said:

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Your president, Netanyahu, has been claiming for 20 years that Iran was "weeks away" from a nuclear weapon.

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Citations please.

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30 years. I hope video evidence is good enough for you. Of course, maybe this was taken out of context or maybe it was AI.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVPFSLUkTkX/?igsh=MXJtdDZwYjd1Nndp

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Thank you.
Now explain Iran's negotiators admitting they had hundreds of of kilograms of enriched uranium enough to make several nuclear bombs.

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No thank you. You wanted proof that Bibi had been claiming that Iran was close to having nuclear weapons for the past 20 years. I provided 30+ years of proof. I'm not interested in engaging with people who constantly move the goal posts. Good day.

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We are talk king about the present day threat, so it is relevant.

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Nope. I provided the proof you were looking for. Good day.

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Silent For Too Long said:

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When a shoe fits...

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Wow....that hurts.

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Tell me about it.

HoustonAggie11 said:

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Increased attacks on Jews, Jewish students being terrorized on college campuses, but yeah anti-smetisicm not an issue in the USA.

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Straw man

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Who?mikejones! said:

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Americans so far as the state dept is concerned.

My kids are dual citizens with another country

You going to minimize them too?

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It was honestly just a question I didn't know the answer to until after I posted and then looked, and yes all of the captives were Dual-Citizens, American-Israeli or Israeli-American... I don't know if the order matters or if there is even an "order."

Further spawned more questions about the concept of dual-citizenship in my head, A. I didn't really think much about dual-citizenship until I found out all of the 58 Americans cited were Americans that could vote in Israel and in the US.

I dont feel strongly that we should or shouldn't minimize dual-citizens, but I do have questions about the practice itself now that I didn't have before.

I do wonder if they were forced to renounce and only claim one citizenship, which they'd renounce... but the practice is established and Supreme Court Blessed so it doesn't matter.

The world is big. I'm still learning things.

What countries do your children have dual-citizenry in, out of curiosity?

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If you can't claim allegiance to a single country, then you shouldn't represent that country. It's a simple alignment of interests. You can't serve two masters. It's great that Mike Jones's kids have dual citizenship, I just don't want them representing my country. Not hard to understand, and shouldn't be controversial.

Incredibly stupid, ignorant point of view

Queso1 said:

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He's one voice that was willing to resign based on it. That's worth something.

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What if it's true they have evidence he is leaking info?

Captain Ahab said:

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Top US counterterrorism official resigns over Iran war

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The Trump administration's top official on counterterrorism has resigned from his position, citing opposition to the war in Iran, and urged the president to "reverse course".
In a letter posted on X, National Counterterrorism Center Director Joe Kent said that Iran posed "no imminent threat" to the US and claimed that the Trump administration "started this war due to pressure from Israel" and its powerful American lobby.

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The influence of foreign governments needs to be addressed.

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https://victorhanson.com/our-long-road-to-war-with-iran/?utm_campaign=34118572-MKT%20%7C%20Hoover%20Daily%20Report%20%7C%202026&utm_medium=email&_hsenc=p2ANqtz--mBRPDG_ysiRcgo-NgoZ9xT12Irm3FhefwQEGVsC9mAaMTI0bCc5M5OSaMLvwD_n9L2PHnfRchRP852Jycl-4n_PK_5w&_hsmi=408083442&utm_content=408083442&utm_source=hs_email

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There's a flip side to this coin geopolitically. We are essentially demonstrating the ultimate protection against US bombs is having nuclear weapons. Not saying I necessarily agree with that conclusion but it's a legitimate one being made. I can imagine with ai and other technological advancements nuclear weapon procurement will only becomes increasingly easy.

And there's the issue of current nuclear countries like the UK subcoming to Islam take over.

We really need a better geopolitical mechanism for dealing with nuclear adversaries vs bombing them. It's going to be important in the future.

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True. See: north Korea

I think the lesson here is that north Korea isnt a death cult and their nukes are mostly for defensive measures and we learned that those who would likely use them offensively can never be given that chance, even to bargain off the threat.

And thats one major reason, among others, why iran is currently be decimated and the leaders killed. No longer will america accept anything less than total capitulation on such matters. North Korea (and Ukraine for that matter) has taught us a valuable lesson

We shouldn't permit dual citizenship.

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American Hardwood said:

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Attacking Iran has been justifiable at any time in the last 40 years. To make the "no imminent threat" claim is to just admit you are either blind, stupid, or craven. They have been a scourge and the mullah's path was always going to lead to here.

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Blind, stupid or craven, huh? Well at least we know you are reasonable and rational.

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When they chant "death to America" and "death to Israel" and have been behind multiple attacks on both, I believe them and their intent. No conclusion other than 'they will attack and kill Americans again anytime, anywhere they get opportunity to the maximum effect possible' can be made which makes them an imminent threat 24/7. To pretend otherwise...well, I stand by what I said.

Good luck with that