If Trump wanted to, he could deep-six this CR with one tweet https://t.co/oy7k7WFj72
— Jamie Dupree (@jamiedupree) December 18, 2024
Johnson passing an omnibus claiming it's a CR
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Johnson should not be the SOTH. He clearly is not advancing a conservative agenda and thinks all of us are emotional peasants he can misdirect.Logos Stick said:
lol Johnson weighs in. They are obviously not able to vote on farm subsidies and hurricane relief in a separate bill /sarc:Republicans CANNOT allow millions of Americans devastated by the historic hurricane season, or our struggling farmers, go without the help they desperately need.
— Speaker Mike Johnson (@SpeakerJohnson) December 18, 2024
We will decide FY25 spending in March, when Trump is back in the WH and Republicans control the Senate and House. pic.twitter.com/f8OpQleOoJ
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No confusion with Rand.
BREAKING: Senator Rand Paul says he will delay the passage of a massive Omnibus Spending Bill, if it passes the House which would result in a Government Shutdown if the bill is not passed by Friday.
— Ian Jaeger (@IanJaeger29) December 17, 2024
Thank you Senator Paul. pic.twitter.com/pWwl7goLsZ
One of my favorites
Tea Party said:Johnson should not be the SOTH. He clearly is not advancing a conservative agenda and thinks all of us are emotional peasants he can misdirect.Logos Stick said:
lol Johnson weighs in. They are obviously not able to vote on farm subsidies and hurricane relief in a separate bill /sarc:Republicans CANNOT allow millions of Americans devastated by the historic hurricane season, or our struggling farmers, go without the help they desperately need.
— Speaker Mike Johnson (@SpeakerJohnson) December 18, 2024
We will decide FY25 spending in March, when Trump is back in the WH and Republicans control the Senate and House. pic.twitter.com/f8OpQleOoJ
He's a lying POS. He's using left wing talking points to try to get this across the line. Same guy who broke the tie on the FISA spying.
Looks like the Dems will push it across for him:
🚨 JUST IN: House Democrats are planning to BAIL OUT @SpeakerJohnson and support his CR, per Politico
— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) December 18, 2024
This is a PELOSI-STYLE spending bill. Of COURSE the democrats love it.
Johnson is weak as hell and NEEDS TO GO.
VACATE THE CHAIR! pic.twitter.com/auKWsKzoDz
Yes, do a filibuster if necessary.FobTies said:
No confusion with Rand.BREAKING: Senator Rand Paul says he will delay the passage of a massive Omnibus Spending Bill, if it passes the House which would result in a Government Shutdown if the bill is not passed by Friday.
— Ian Jaeger (@IanJaeger29) December 17, 2024
Thank you Senator Paul. pic.twitter.com/pWwl7goLsZ
I will continue to be right in that nothing will really change with spending and the debt.
And I will continue to point this out to people on here who seem to think something will actually change with this admin.
It won't. At best, you will simply see a shift in spending but the overall net effect will be that any spending cuts will be a rounding error overall.
And I will continue to point this out to people on here who seem to think something will actually change with this admin.
It won't. At best, you will simply see a shift in spending but the overall net effect will be that any spending cuts will be a rounding error overall.
Trump has lost control of his son:
So the house is going to vote to protect itself from glaring and obvious wrongdoing? The American people didn’t vote for this. They voted for the opposite. They voted for transparency. This cannot pass. https://t.co/AnATj5H5Eh
— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) December 18, 2024
How many CRs is that now under Johnson? I think 4
They always give themselves 3 months and wait until the last couple days then give themselves another 3 months.
If Trump and the Rs are serious, this is how you set the tone for the next 4 years. Not the same old crap.
They always give themselves 3 months and wait until the last couple days then give themselves another 3 months.
If Trump and the Rs are serious, this is how you set the tone for the next 4 years. Not the same old crap.
YouBet said:
I will continue to be right in that nothing will really change with spending and the debt.
And I will continue to point this out to people on here who seem to think something will actually change with this admin.
It won't. At best, you will simply see a shift in spending but the overall net effect will be that any spending cuts will be a rounding error overall.
Yeah I don't understand why people think otherwise. Trump's whole first term he pimped spending increases and never vetoed an omnibus bill.
There are only a handful of people left that care and Rand is one of them.
I 100% believe this statement.Teslag said:Welloiledmachine04 said:With the number of posts on Texags during working hours, it seems like certain govt employees get paid to not work anyway, so shut it down! - so excited and ready for DOGE.Teslag said:Ellis Wyatt said:And everyone gets paid eventually. Even those who get a (temporarily) unpaid vacation. They get full pay for the time they don't work and it doesn't count against their vacation.olarmy96 said:
Where were you during the last government shutdown?
No one remembers.
I think 80% functions on autopilot, so there's hardly any impact.
If DOGE is serious about cutting bureaucracy, it seems like shutting down 20% of the government would be a good way to demonstrate reducing government is no big deal.
Yep, as a federal employee (USACE) I'd love a good long shutdown over Christmas so I don't have to use any PTO and still get paid.
I do about 2 to 3 hours of real work a day. And that will never change until I retire from the Corps.
Such BS.
CR BS: On the heels of the report that the DOJ obtained the emails of Schiff and Swalwell proving they leaked classified documents to the media, Congress has inserted language into the continuing resolution allowing it to quash any subpoena @Kash_Patel or @PamBondi might issue… pic.twitter.com/dq5XagDMqQ
— @amuse (@amuse) December 18, 2024
There is not much doubt DC is the most corrupt major government and immune from accountability in the world today.
This is the way.jrdaustin said:
I don't understand why Johnson doesn't man up with a bait & switch, and indroduce a 20 page, clean CR that freezes all spending at current rates for the next 90 days. Do it this afternoon.
Then let the Dems all vote against it and FOR the shutdown.
Then we'd see all hell break loose, 100% due to the Dems.
Musk firing missiles:
Any member of the House or Senate who votes for this outrageous spending bill deserves to be voted out in 2 years!
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 18, 2024
Everybody gives crap to senate leaders but Johnson is the real snake. Theirs a bill Ted Cruz sponsored with bipartisan support in the Senate to take down revenge porn images. Johnson refuses to bring it for a vote because of his tech buddies.
Infuriating. This alone should be enough for every Republican to vote to kill it.
Please call your elected representatives right away to tell them how you feel!
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 18, 2024
They are trying to get this passed today while no one is paying attention. https://t.co/OlVJPaC4Wm
Very different climate. He didn't have a semi-mandate, and he had a RINO Congress mostly filled with underminers. And that only for two years. Remember McCain and company flushing any repeal of Obamacare?BoydCrowder13 said:YouBet said:
I will continue to be right in that nothing will really change with spending and the debt.
And I will continue to point this out to people on here who seem to think something will actually change with this admin.
It won't. At best, you will simply see a shift in spending but the overall net effect will be that any spending cuts will be a rounding error overall.
Yeah I don't understand why people think otherwise. Trump's whole first term he pimped spending increases and never vetoed an omnibus bill.
There are only a handful of people left that care and Rand is one of them.
So first term not very germane here.
So much for separation of powers and co-equal branches of government. A bunch of Constitutional nincompoops.titan said:
There is not much doubt DC is the most corrupt major government and immune from accountability in the world today.
It's tiring to see the Speaker play the victim card.
He could have made sure this was a clean CR with only the hurricane relief and farm additions. Those could have been offset with claw back of unspent COVID money, ANWR oil lease sales mandate, etc.
If Senate Dems or the alleged POTUS stop it, then the shutdown is on them.
He could have made sure this was a clean CR with only the hurricane relief and farm additions. Those could have been offset with claw back of unspent COVID money, ANWR oil lease sales mandate, etc.
If Senate Dems or the alleged POTUS stop it, then the shutdown is on them.
The bill is 1,500 pages long & no one has time to read it. That isn’t a bug. It’s a feature. https://t.co/xl2i5uwGtV
— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) December 18, 2024
titan said:Very different climate. He didn't have a semi-mandate, and he had a RINO Congress mostly filled with underminers. And that only for two years. Remember McCain and company flushing any repeal of Obamacare?BoydCrowder13 said:YouBet said:
I will continue to be right in that nothing will really change with spending and the debt.
And I will continue to point this out to people on here who seem to think something will actually change with this admin.
It won't. At best, you will simply see a shift in spending but the overall net effect will be that any spending cuts will be a rounding error overall.
Yeah I don't understand why people think otherwise. Trump's whole first term he pimped spending increases and never vetoed an omnibus bill.
There are only a handful of people left that care and Rand is one of them.
So first term not very germane here.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-wants-congress-amend-004113632.html
Considering McCain had been dead for 2 years, not sure how you can blame him for stuff like that ^
He also has never advocated for spending cuts. You can't say the evidence that we do have is irrelevant so we have to go with evidence of the opposite that doesn't exist.titan said:Very different climate. He didn't have a semi-mandate, and he had a RINO Congress mostly filled with underminers. And that only for two years. Remember McCain and company flushing any repeal of Obamacare?BoydCrowder13 said:YouBet said:
I will continue to be right in that nothing will really change with spending and the debt.
And I will continue to point this out to people on here who seem to think something will actually change with this admin.
It won't. At best, you will simply see a shift in spending but the overall net effect will be that any spending cuts will be a rounding error overall.
Yeah I don't understand why people think otherwise. Trump's whole first term he pimped spending increases and never vetoed an omnibus bill.
There are only a handful of people left that care and Rand is one of them.
So first term not very germane here.
I'm in Johnson's district. Have met him several times and voted for him twice.
He's simply not cut out for this job.
He's simply not cut out for this job.
“A drunkard’s dream if I ever did see one”
That's during the Covid crisis and not really representative. And McCain and company was a group mindset, and was not just him. Kinzinger is the type. This is still not any kind of argument for laying down for this now after Nov 5.BoydCrowder13 said:titan said:Very different climate. He didn't have a semi-mandate, and he had a RINO Congress mostly filled with underminers. And that only for two years. Remember McCain and company flushing any repeal of Obamacare?BoydCrowder13 said:YouBet said:
I will continue to be right in that nothing will really change with spending and the debt.
And I will continue to point this out to people on here who seem to think something will actually change with this admin.
It won't. At best, you will simply see a shift in spending but the overall net effect will be that any spending cuts will be a rounding error overall.
Yeah I don't understand why people think otherwise. Trump's whole first term he pimped spending increases and never vetoed an omnibus bill.
There are only a handful of people left that care and Rand is one of them.
So first term not very germane here.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-wants-congress-amend-004113632.html
Considering McCain had been dead for 2 years, not sure how you can blame him for stuff like that ^
So much for nobody is above the law. They are voting for putting themselves above the criminal laws by doing this. This goes waaaaay beyond the speech and debate clause protections. Which I would argue should only be restricted to actually what is said within the well and on the floor. Not when they spout off on some Sunday show.Ag87H2O said:
Infuriating. This alone should be enough for every Republican to vote to kill it.
True, will grant that. But this isn't about mere spending cuts or not -- its about using Omnibus bills that the public doesn't get to have time to put a stop sign for. THAT needs to end. Its part of the reform mandate as Elon and Vivek are reminding.Phatbob said:He also has never advocated for spending cuts. You can't say the evidence that we do have is irrelevant so we have to go with evidence of the opposite that doesn't exist.titan said:Very different climate. He didn't have a semi-mandate, and he had a RINO Congress mostly filled with underminers. And that only for two years. Remember McCain and company flushing any repeal of Obamacare?BoydCrowder13 said:YouBet said:
I will continue to be right in that nothing will really change with spending and the debt.
And I will continue to point this out to people on here who seem to think something will actually change with this admin.
It won't. At best, you will simply see a shift in spending but the overall net effect will be that any spending cuts will be a rounding error overall.
Yeah I don't understand why people think otherwise. Trump's whole first term he pimped spending increases and never vetoed an omnibus bill.
There are only a handful of people left that care and Rand is one of them.
So first term not very germane here.
He also witnessed what the spending the last 4 years (and to be fair, most of his first term) has done to the debt where the interest is going to be the largest item of spending.titan said:Very different climate. He didn't have a semi-mandate, and he had a RINO Congress mostly filled with underminers. And that only for two years. Remember McCain and company flushing any repeal of Obamacare?BoydCrowder13 said:YouBet said:
I will continue to be right in that nothing will really change with spending and the debt.
And I will continue to point this out to people on here who seem to think something will actually change with this admin.
It won't. At best, you will simply see a shift in spending but the overall net effect will be that any spending cuts will be a rounding error overall.
Yeah I don't understand why people think otherwise. Trump's whole first term he pimped spending increases and never vetoed an omnibus bill.
There are only a handful of people left that care and Rand is one of them.
So first term not very germane here.
He's now taking advice from Elon and Vivek instead of Paul Ryan. Talk about a 180 shift.
titan said:That's during the Covid crisis and not really representative. And McCain and company was a group mindset, and was not just him. Kinzinger is the type. This is still not any kind of argument for laying down for this now after Nov 5.BoydCrowder13 said:titan said:Very different climate. He didn't have a semi-mandate, and he had a RINO Congress mostly filled with underminers. And that only for two years. Remember McCain and company flushing any repeal of Obamacare?BoydCrowder13 said:YouBet said:
I will continue to be right in that nothing will really change with spending and the debt.
And I will continue to point this out to people on here who seem to think something will actually change with this admin.
It won't. At best, you will simply see a shift in spending but the overall net effect will be that any spending cuts will be a rounding error overall.
Yeah I don't understand why people think otherwise. Trump's whole first term he pimped spending increases and never vetoed an omnibus bill.
There are only a handful of people left that care and Rand is one of them.
So first term not very germane here.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-wants-congress-amend-004113632.html
Considering McCain had been dead for 2 years, not sure how you can blame him for stuff like that ^
My point is that Trump fought for increases to 2nd and 3rd stimulus checks. Congress was willing to pass less.
Trump fought for increases to defense (it increased 20% in his term).
He swore to never touch entitlements.
Also Kinzinger is many negative things but he voted against the IRA and American Rescue Plan. I'm not sure you know what you are talking about on who is fiscally conservative and who isn't.
Honest question. So what if the government shuts down?
Not talking about fiscally conservative. Talking about abuse of Omnibus and massive scale comprehensive bills. I am not that type of conservative --- I understand your point, its just not what focused on.BoydCrowder13 said:titan said:That's during the Covid crisis and not really representative. And McCain and company was a group mindset, and was not just him. Kinzinger is the type. This is still not any kind of argument for laying down for this now after Nov 5.BoydCrowder13 said:titan said:Very different climate. He didn't have a semi-mandate, and he had a RINO Congress mostly filled with underminers. And that only for two years. Remember McCain and company flushing any repeal of Obamacare?BoydCrowder13 said:YouBet said:
I will continue to be right in that nothing will really change with spending and the debt.
And I will continue to point this out to people on here who seem to think something will actually change with this admin.
It won't. At best, you will simply see a shift in spending but the overall net effect will be that any spending cuts will be a rounding error overall.
Yeah I don't understand why people think otherwise. Trump's whole first term he pimped spending increases and never vetoed an omnibus bill.
There are only a handful of people left that care and Rand is one of them.
So first term not very germane here.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-wants-congress-amend-004113632.html
Considering McCain had been dead for 2 years, not sure how you can blame him for stuff like that ^
My point is that Trump fought for increases to 2nd and 3rd stimulus checks. Congress was willing to pass less.
Trump fought for increases to defense (it increased 20% in his term).
He swore to never touch entitlements.
Also Kinzinger is many negative things but he voted against the IRA and American Rescue Plan. I'm not sure you know what you are talking about on who is fiscally conservative and who isn't.
And the stimulus checks may have been necessary --- the Covid this was an absolute trainwreck. The rich media and political class had no way of knowing how much even 2 k checks could be helpful at times then
Honest answer...nothing. Well, you won't be able to visit National Parks and I think that just about covers it.Dave Robicheaux said:
Honest question. So what if the government shuts down?
titan said:Not talking about fiscally conservative. Talking about abuse of Omnibus and massive scale comprehensive bills. I am not that type of conservative --- I understand your point, its just not what focused on.BoydCrowder13 said:titan said:That's during the Covid crisis and not really representative. And McCain and company was a group mindset, and was not just him. Kinzinger is the type. This is still not any kind of argument for laying down for this now after Nov 5.BoydCrowder13 said:titan said:Very different climate. He didn't have a semi-mandate, and he had a RINO Congress mostly filled with underminers. And that only for two years. Remember McCain and company flushing any repeal of Obamacare?BoydCrowder13 said:YouBet said:
I will continue to be right in that nothing will really change with spending and the debt.
And I will continue to point this out to people on here who seem to think something will actually change with this admin.
It won't. At best, you will simply see a shift in spending but the overall net effect will be that any spending cuts will be a rounding error overall.
Yeah I don't understand why people think otherwise. Trump's whole first term he pimped spending increases and never vetoed an omnibus bill.
There are only a handful of people left that care and Rand is one of them.
So first term not very germane here.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-says-wants-congress-amend-004113632.html
Considering McCain had been dead for 2 years, not sure how you can blame him for stuff like that ^
My point is that Trump fought for increases to 2nd and 3rd stimulus checks. Congress was willing to pass less.
Trump fought for increases to defense (it increased 20% in his term).
He swore to never touch entitlements.
Also Kinzinger is many negative things but he voted against the IRA and American Rescue Plan. I'm not sure you know what you are talking about on who is fiscally conservative and who isn't.
And the stimulus checks may have been necessary --- the Covid this was an absolute trainwreck. The rich media and political class had no way of knowing how much even 2 k checks could be helpful at times then
1 was certainly necessary. Increased child tax credit? Probably necessary. 2nd? Eh. 3rd? What?
A family of 5 making $149k received nearly $12k in stimulus in 2020. Even if they had not lost a job.
$800B went out for PPP loans. The SBA believes at least 17% (over $130B) was embezzled through fraud.
COVID stimulus (especially the stuff that went out from June 2020 to Dec 2020) was the least targeted economic stimulus I have ever seen.
We aren't dealing with theoretical physics here... it's not some huge enigma what happens with debt and interest when it comes to government spending. Trump's not a stupid guy. If he needs Elon and Vivek to tell him basic economics at this point in his life as the head of multimillion dollar companies then what the hell has he been doing?Prosperdick said:He also witnessed what the spending the last 4 years (and to be fair, most of his first term) has done to the debt where the interest is going to be the largest item of spending.titan said:Very different climate. He didn't have a semi-mandate, and he had a RINO Congress mostly filled with underminers. And that only for two years. Remember McCain and company flushing any repeal of Obamacare?BoydCrowder13 said:YouBet said:
I will continue to be right in that nothing will really change with spending and the debt.
And I will continue to point this out to people on here who seem to think something will actually change with this admin.
It won't. At best, you will simply see a shift in spending but the overall net effect will be that any spending cuts will be a rounding error overall.
Yeah I don't understand why people think otherwise. Trump's whole first term he pimped spending increases and never vetoed an omnibus bill.
There are only a handful of people left that care and Rand is one of them.
So first term not very germane here.
He's now taking advice from Elon and Vivek instead of Paul Ryan. Talk about a 180 shift.
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