So one I was right about?

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Red Fishing Ag93 said:

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Screw these people.

First thoughts on this massive CR. #HoldTheLine pic.twitter.com/MeFPHBCd2M

— Rep. Nancy Mace (@RepNancyMace) December 18, 2024

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She is great going through that! In just under two minutes, showed what an abomination the omnibus concept is. Get this stopped.

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Her message

Uniform Of The Day. Compliments of @CharlieWrldTV pic.twitter.com/d1OB5YJkCt

— Rep. Nancy Mace (@RepNancyMace) December 18, 2024

pic.twitter.com/pex9J7vrdl

— Truth Trumps Lies (@micmac053) December 19, 2024

"$200 billion"

That guy is a moron.

Teslag said:

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"$200 billion"

That guy is a moron.

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Catturd? As of May it was over $175 billion and while I don't keep track directly I'm pretty sure it's well north of that by now, even at depreciated cost estimates (which of course means we will spend much more than that to replace what is written off and sent over).

Oops

🚨 UPDATE: Spending deal would suspend the debt limit until January 2027, meaning Trump would not have to worry about that during first half of term - Punchbowl

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) December 19, 2024

they got a deal:


- Clean 3-mo CR
- Clean farm bill pkg
- Disaster aid - $110B
- Clean health extenders w/o PBM reform
- Paygo scorecard wiped to zero
- 2-yr suspension of debt limit to Jan 2027
- No E15

More debt. More government. Increasing the Credit Card $4 trillion with ZERO spending restraint and cuts. HARD NO. https://t.co/YX9BXW2M5t

— Chip Roy (@chiproytx) December 19, 2024

🚨 BREAKING: SPENDING DEAL REACHED, Rep. Luna says

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) December 19, 2024

BREAKING: Trump announces "success in Washington" after spending deal is reached to avert a government shutdown.

It would push the debt ceiling out to Jan. 30, 2027, giving Trump two years of not having to deal with it. pic.twitter.com/tSnELAnskv

— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) December 19, 2024

🚨 #BREAKING: The text of the Trump endorsed spending bill has been released

It’s only 116 pages this time.

MUCH of the pork has been cut out!

Full bill posted below in replies 👇🏻 pic.twitter.com/OH4kTqBpI7

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) December 19, 2024

How did they come up with $110B of new spend for disaster relief

Old bill …. New bill. pic.twitter.com/prMn4SHVAt

— Catturd ™ (@catturd2) December 19, 2024

The question is what pork got left in the bill?

Same disaster relief that was in the old bill.


One thing to remember is that the Senate is still 50/50. So the structural reforms and other things that Chip Roy (correctly) wants will not happen this session period. While I agree with him, this does rub many colleagues the wrong way and will make it harder for some things to get done. I'd take the win here as a member of the Freedom Caucus.

I know but how did they come up with $110B to start. This is new spending. What was disaster relief in the original $7T budget and why do we need 110B more is what I'd like to know.

nortex97 said:

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Teslag said:

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"$200 billion"

That guy is a moron.

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Catturd? As of May it was over $175 billion and while I don't keep track directly I'm pretty sure it's well north of that by now, even at depreciated cost estimates (which of course means we will spend much more than that to replace what is written off and sent over).

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I think it's the fact he makes it sound like it's a pallet of $200 million in cash. Much of it was book value of weapons. Some of which won't be replaced.

Logos Stick said:

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they got a deal:


- Clean 3-mo CR
- Clean farm bill pkg
- Disaster aid - $110B
- Clean health extenders w/o PBM reform
- Paygo scorecard wiped to zero
- 2-yr suspension of debt limit to Jan 2027
- No E15

More debt. More government. Increasing the Credit Card $4 trillion with ZERO spending restraint and cuts. HARD NO. https://t.co/YX9BXW2M5t

— Chip Roy (@chiproytx) December 19, 2024

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Weird. Almost like someone said this would happen

Dan Scott said:

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I know but how did they come up with $110B to start. This is new spending. What was disaster relief in the original $7T budget and why do we need 110B more is what I'd like to know.

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I think this stems from the fact that FEMA reported they had no more money. So, that's where this $110B stemmed from. I think.

This bill isn't going anywhere, might as well wait until January and see if the makeup of the new Congress changes anything.

Ag CPA said:

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This bill isn't going anywhere, might as well wait until January and see if the makeup of the new Congress changes anything.

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It's 4 weeks or so. Shut it down until then and pass it the day Trump takes office.

Is there any chance at all this was a rope a dope by Johnson. Elon, Vivek and Trump? It was a planned set-up?

ETA: Or a systems check?

Teslag said:

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Ag CPA said:

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This bill isn't going anywhere, might as well wait until January and see if the makeup of the new Congress changes anything.

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It's 4 weeks or so. Shut it down until then and pass it the day Trump takes office.

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When Trump takes office the republicans will have less votes in the house and still need Dems in the senate to vote for it

aggiehawg said:

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Is there any chance at all this was a rope a dope by Johnson. Elon, Vivek and Trump? It was a planned set-up?

ETA: Or a systems check?

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More like Johnson and Trump. Which I said all along that Johnson doesn't take a piss without Trumps permission.

aggiehawg said:

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Is there any chance at all this was a rope a dope by Johnson. Elon, Vivek and Trump? It was a planned set-up?

ETA: Or a systems check?

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I don't see them as game players.

Ag CPA said:

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This bill isn't going anywhere, might as well wait until January and see if the makeup of the new Congress changes anything.

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Unless they get Freedom Caucus votes, which doesn't appear likely, the new Congress won't matter either.

Trump is now tweeting about spending cuts - 100s of billions per Trump - using reconciliation, which is laughable. He doesn't need a debt ceiling suspension if true. They can run for half a year after the ceiling is hit using accounting tricks which is more than enough time to pass cuts.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Is there any chance at all this was a rope a dope by Johnson. Elon, Vivek and Trump? It was a planned set-up?

ETA: Or a systems check?

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I don't see them as game players.

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Why I added the systems check part. That would be something Elon would do. How fast can they mobilize, have different people breaking down that large of a bill and create a twitter storm and backlash?

(Don't ask but I have done that before using email to a group of about 400 homeowners in an HOA. It worked, so I knew that if a legal issue started to go south against the homeowners, I could summon support quickly to show up in court so the judge would see a crap ton of voters sitting in the gallery. That also worked.)

aggiehawg said:

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Is there any chance at all this was a rope a dope by Johnson. Elon, Vivek and Trump? It was a planned set-up?

ETA: Or a systems check?

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My thought is that Trump just wanted this bill pushed through so that the pork gets passed along on Biden's watch and he can start with a relatively clean slate. Then Elon jumps on Twitter crapping all over it and Trump somehow gets bullied into backing Elon's stance although he just wants it to go away before he takes office.

Like both Trump and Elon but I don't see how two of the biggest alpha males in the world will work together for long, especially when they have fundamentally different views on spending and debt.

Ag CPA said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Is there any chance at all this was a rope a dope by Johnson. Elon, Vivek and Trump? It was a planned set-up?

ETA: Or a systems check?

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My thought is that Trump just wanted this bill pushed through so that the pork gets passed along on Biden's watch and he can start with a relatively clean slate. Then Elon jumps on Twitter crapping all over it and Trump somehow gets bullied into backing Elon's stance although he just wants it to go away before he takes office.

Like both Trump and Elon but I don't see how two of the biggest alpha males in the world will work together for long, especially when they have fundamentally different views on spending and debt.

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Maybe you are correct but there was sooooo much BS in that original 1500+ bill being dropped with few hours for members to break it down, just tingles my spidey senses.

I can't find anything on soembody challenging the $110B. Why is it $110B and not $90B. There's a big circle jerk about cutting programs that cost millions but nobody is challenging this program to spend billions.

So government shutdown starts Friday at midnight? Looks like they have 30 hours to make everyone happy…

I would bet on a shutdown…

I'm a huge fan of a shutdown…

You think Congress is mad now. Wait until we are officially up & running.

Congress & their lobbyists are going to lose their minds.

Make sure to follow us, buckle up, & enjoy the ride.

— DOGE - Department of Government Efficiency Parody (@realdogeusa) December 19, 2024

The bill failed house vote. Looked like about 30 Rs votes no

Welp, someone can't count well or this was a bad miscalculation.

When their Christmas time off starts getting cut into, they'll figure out something.

Having said that, this entire event has been a political abortion.