You need to pace yourself if you're gonna make it.
Facts don't matter, it's how the media will use it to attack the candidate /OPRapier108 said:
Ah yes, the old MAGA lie brought up.
Multiple media outlets searched that out in 2018 when DeSantis was running for governor the first time.
They found the girls were all 18 or older and the story was dropped.
It wasn't dropped, they are just now releasing a lot of this information. We don't know what else is still to come either. Maybe none of it is about Trump. Maybe so. So far we just know he spent more time on Epstein's plane than we thought. Maybe that's all.coconutED said:Facts don't matter, it's how the media will use it to attack the candidate /OPRapier108 said:
Ah yes, the old MAGA lie brought up.
Multiple media outlets searched that out in 2018 when DeSantis was running for governor the first time.
They found the girls were all 18 or older and the story was dropped.
Also OP: It doesn't matter that the story was dropped already, they will bring it back up as soon as the party nomination is secured
Nah, I'm good. Living in Texas my vote has never really mattered anyway and only so much you can do about this stuff. Life's too short.Rockdoc said:
You need to pace yourself if you're gonna make it.
Science Denier said:
LOL, seems the few DeSantis supporters left are fine with "Trump - Epstein" BS, but don't like to be reminded about their own partying with HS kids when he was their teacher.
Science Denier said:
LOL, seems the few DeSantis supporters left are fine with "Trump - Epstein" BS, but don't like to be reminded about their own partying with HS kids when he was their teacher.
Ok, Loomer.Science Denier said:
LOL, seems the few DeSantis supporters left are fine with "Trump - Epstein" BS, but don't like to be reminded about their own partying with HS kids when he was their teacher.
Business InsiderJ. Walter Weatherman said:Science Denier said:
LOL, seems the few DeSantis supporters left are fine with "Trump - Epstein" BS, but don't like to be reminded about their own partying with HS kids when he was their teacher.
Well, Trump actually did fly with Epstein. DeSantis "partying with HS kids" is a blatant lie that even the left gave up on. Not surprising Trump cultists are desperately trying to keep it going though.
Actual news article. Also from that story, here is a quote from DeSantis trying to downplay that photoQuote:
Former students of Ron DeSantis said he was a 'total jock' who partied with students and thought it was 'very special' that he graduated from Yale
But, he references this Epstein BS. Oops. Spending time smearing yet another Republican. Yet another DeSantis flip-flop. No wonder even Republicans don't like him.Quote:
I'd just say this. I spend my time delivering results for the people of Florida and fighting against Joe Biden [...] I don't spend my time trying to smear other Republicans
Science Denier said:Business InsiderJ. Walter Weatherman said:Science Denier said:
LOL, seems the few DeSantis supporters left are fine with "Trump - Epstein" BS, but don't like to be reminded about their own partying with HS kids when he was their teacher.
Well, Trump actually did fly with Epstein. DeSantis "partying with HS kids" is a blatant lie that even the left gave up on. Not surprising Trump cultists are desperately trying to keep it going though.Actual news article. Also from that story, here is a quote from DeSantis trying to downplay that photoQuote:
Former students of Ron DeSantis said he was a 'total jock' who partied with students and thought it was 'very special' that he graduated from YaleBut, he references this Epstein BS. Oops. Spending time smearing yet another Republican. Yet another DeSantis flip-flop. No wonder even Republicans don't like him.Quote:
I'd just say this. I spend my time delivering results for the people of Florida and fighting against Joe Biden [...] I don't spend my time trying to smear other Republicans
He didn't. DS is on a roll. Truth doesn't matter as long as you're slinging a little mud.J. Walter Weatherman said:Science Denier said:Business InsiderJ. Walter Weatherman said:Science Denier said:
LOL, seems the few DeSantis supporters left are fine with "Trump - Epstein" BS, but don't like to be reminded about their own partying with HS kids when he was their teacher.
Well, Trump actually did fly with Epstein. DeSantis "partying with HS kids" is a blatant lie that even the left gave up on. Not surprising Trump cultists are desperately trying to keep it going though.Actual news article. Also from that story, here is a quote from DeSantis trying to downplay that photoQuote:
Former students of Ron DeSantis said he was a 'total jock' who partied with students and thought it was 'very special' that he graduated from YaleBut, he references this Epstein BS. Oops. Spending time smearing yet another Republican. Yet another DeSantis flip-flop. No wonder even Republicans don't like him.Quote:
I'd just say this. I spend my time delivering results for the people of Florida and fighting against Joe Biden [...] I don't spend my time trying to smear other Republicans
Where did DeSantis mention the Epstein stuff?
jrdaustin said:He didn't. DS is on a roll. Truth doesn't matter as long as you're slinging a little mud.J. Walter Weatherman said:Science Denier said:Business InsiderJ. Walter Weatherman said:Science Denier said:
LOL, seems the few DeSantis supporters left are fine with "Trump - Epstein" BS, but don't like to be reminded about their own partying with HS kids when he was their teacher.
Well, Trump actually did fly with Epstein. DeSantis "partying with HS kids" is a blatant lie that even the left gave up on. Not surprising Trump cultists are desperately trying to keep it going though.Actual news article. Also from that story, here is a quote from DeSantis trying to downplay that photoQuote:
Former students of Ron DeSantis said he was a 'total jock' who partied with students and thought it was 'very special' that he graduated from YaleBut, he references this Epstein BS. Oops. Spending time smearing yet another Republican. Yet another DeSantis flip-flop. No wonder even Republicans don't like him.Quote:
I'd just say this. I spend my time delivering results for the people of Florida and fighting against Joe Biden [...] I don't spend my time trying to smear other Republicans
Where did DeSantis mention the Epstein stuff?
And poor DS will never acknowledge the irony of his assertion that it's the DeSantis followers who play dirty.
Seeing as I've defended both Trump AND DeSantis in this thread, to whom are you referring?Ed Harley said:jrdaustin said:He didn't. DS is on a roll. Truth doesn't matter as long as you're slinging a little mud.J. Walter Weatherman said:Science Denier said:Business InsiderJ. Walter Weatherman said:Science Denier said:
LOL, seems the few DeSantis supporters left are fine with "Trump - Epstein" BS, but don't like to be reminded about their own partying with HS kids when he was their teacher.
Well, Trump actually did fly with Epstein. DeSantis "partying with HS kids" is a blatant lie that even the left gave up on. Not surprising Trump cultists are desperately trying to keep it going though.Actual news article. Also from that story, here is a quote from DeSantis trying to downplay that photoQuote:
Former students of Ron DeSantis said he was a 'total jock' who partied with students and thought it was 'very special' that he graduated from YaleBut, he references this Epstein BS. Oops. Spending time smearing yet another Republican. Yet another DeSantis flip-flop. No wonder even Republicans don't like him.Quote:
I'd just say this. I spend my time delivering results for the people of Florida and fighting against Joe Biden [...] I don't spend my time trying to smear other Republicans
Where did DeSantis mention the Epstein stuff?
And poor DS will never acknowledge the irony of his assertion that it's the DeSantis followers who play dirty.
We get it. You defend people who hang out with scum bags. You can stop now.
We knew about more than two. That's literally not true. I posted this last week with a detailed follow up. Showing which flights he was on and where they were going to, all between Newark, Palm Beach, and DC. Marla and his baby was on one. His sons were on several others, business associates were on the others.aggie93 said:Once again, the 2 flights were known, this is 7 and to new locations. Nothing to the island but it does show that Trump knew Epstein better than he has let on. You don't fly on someone's private jet 7 times to different cities if you don't know they pretty damn well, even if you are stupid rich.coconutED said:Just like they did in the several years that this was known?aggie93 said:
Don't worry though. I'm sure the media will give him the benefit of the doubt and only go after Clinton.
Well it was the first I had heard about it but ok, I don't recall your post. I only knew about the 2 flights and those have been the ones I have seen referred to. If you posted about the other flights at some other time my apologies. I have said at least 4 or 5 times on this thread I don't think Trump is a pedo, I said this proves he had a closer relationship to Epstein that previously thought.annie88 said:We knew about more than two. That's literally not true. I posted this last week with a detailed follow up. Showing which flights he was on and where they were going to, all between Newark, Palm Beach, and DC. Marla and his baby was on one. His sons were on several others, business associates were on the others.aggie93 said:Once again, the 2 flights were known, this is 7 and to new locations. Nothing to the island but it does show that Trump knew Epstein better than he has let on. You don't fly on someone's private jet 7 times to different cities if you don't know they pretty damn well, even if you are stupid rich.coconutED said:Just like they did in the several years that this was known?aggie93 said:
Don't worry though. I'm sure the media will give him the benefit of the doubt and only go after Clinton.
The pilot even said he remembered Trump being on several of the flights, but he didn't interact with people much. But here you are just making up **** again
So you're absolutely lying. Again and again.
Closer than when Trump himself admitted that he knew and worked with Epstein for 15 years?aggie93 said:
I have said at least 4 or 5 times on this thread I don't think Trump is a pedo, I said this proves he had a closer relationship to Epstein that previously thought.
When was that? When I heard Trump talk about Epstein he downplayed it and basically said they were neighbors in Palm Beach who went to a lot of the same events. I always assumed that was the case and the stuff in the Netflix Special was BS. I didn't think he knew him well.coconutED said:Closer than when Trump himself admitted that he knew and worked with Epstein for 15 years?aggie93 said:
I have said at least 4 or 5 times on this thread I don't think Trump is a pedo, I said this proves he had a closer relationship to Epstein that previously thought.
Just give it up, dude; take the L and move on.
jrdaustin said:Seeing as I've defended both Trump AND DeSantis in this thread, to whom are you referring?Ed Harley said:jrdaustin said:He didn't. DS is on a roll. Truth doesn't matter as long as you're slinging a little mud.J. Walter Weatherman said:Science Denier said:Business InsiderJ. Walter Weatherman said:Science Denier said:
LOL, seems the few DeSantis supporters left are fine with "Trump - Epstein" BS, but don't like to be reminded about their own partying with HS kids when he was their teacher.
Well, Trump actually did fly with Epstein. DeSantis "partying with HS kids" is a blatant lie that even the left gave up on. Not surprising Trump cultists are desperately trying to keep it going though.Actual news article. Also from that story, here is a quote from DeSantis trying to downplay that photoQuote:
Former students of Ron DeSantis said he was a 'total jock' who partied with students and thought it was 'very special' that he graduated from YaleBut, he references this Epstein BS. Oops. Spending time smearing yet another Republican. Yet another DeSantis flip-flop. No wonder even Republicans don't like him.Quote:
I'd just say this. I spend my time delivering results for the people of Florida and fighting against Joe Biden [...] I don't spend my time trying to smear other Republicans
Where did DeSantis mention the Epstein stuff?
And poor DS will never acknowledge the irony of his assertion that it's the DeSantis followers who play dirty.
We get it. You defend people who hang out with scum bags. You can stop now.
And thanks for the ad hom. Happy New Year to you, too.
ETA: Just read some of your posting history. Didn't realize you meant "either one". Surely not the moral giant like your boy Biden.... So obviously, you don't get it at all. You never did.
No, you make broad, unproven allegations based upon loose associations and then attack those who don't buy in to your wild ass assumptions.Ed Harley said:jrdaustin said:Seeing as I've defended both Trump AND DeSantis in this thread, to whom are you referring?Ed Harley said:jrdaustin said:He didn't. DS is on a roll. Truth doesn't matter as long as you're slinging a little mud.J. Walter Weatherman said:Science Denier said:Business InsiderJ. Walter Weatherman said:Science Denier said:
LOL, seems the few DeSantis supporters left are fine with "Trump - Epstein" BS, but don't like to be reminded about their own partying with HS kids when he was their teacher.
Well, Trump actually did fly with Epstein. DeSantis "partying with HS kids" is a blatant lie that even the left gave up on. Not surprising Trump cultists are desperately trying to keep it going though.Actual news article. Also from that story, here is a quote from DeSantis trying to downplay that photoQuote:
Former students of Ron DeSantis said he was a 'total jock' who partied with students and thought it was 'very special' that he graduated from YaleBut, he references this Epstein BS. Oops. Spending time smearing yet another Republican. Yet another DeSantis flip-flop. No wonder even Republicans don't like him.Quote:
I'd just say this. I spend my time delivering results for the people of Florida and fighting against Joe Biden [...] I don't spend my time trying to smear other Republicans
Where did DeSantis mention the Epstein stuff?
And poor DS will never acknowledge the irony of his assertion that it's the DeSantis followers who play dirty.
We get it. You defend people who hang out with scum bags. You can stop now.
And thanks for the ad hom. Happy New Year to you, too.
ETA: Just read some of your posting history. Didn't realize you meant "either one". Surely not the moral giant like your boy Biden.... So obviously, you don't get it at all. You never did.
I don't defend child predators. You do. Settle down with the moral relativism.
GAC06 said:
Thinking that being friends with child predators is bad is sanctimonious, y'all.
AggieVictor10 said:GAC06 said:
Thinking that being friends with child predators is bad is sanctimonious, y'all.
It's not but downplaying anything your guy does while finger-pointing , with righteous indignation at everyone else, is.
But you knew that already.
Thanks for retracting that.annie88 said:
I apologize for calling you a liar, but I stand by everything else. But it was a very detailed reply that I gave. I can't remember which thread it was on but if I find it, I will link it, it was in reply to Eric. This is just a very disingenuous angle you are pushing.
GAC06 said:AggieVictor10 said:GAC06 said:
Thinking that being friends with child predators is bad is sanctimonious, y'all.
It's not but downplaying anything your guy does while finger-pointing , with righteous indignation at everyone else, is.
But you knew that already.
"My guy" didn't pal around with a child predator.
Foreverconservative said:GAC06 said:AggieVictor10 said:GAC06 said:
Thinking that being friends with child predators is bad is sanctimonious, y'all.
It's not but downplaying anything your guy does while finger-pointing , with righteous indignation at everyone else, is.
But you knew that already.
"My guy" didn't pal around with a child predator.
Who in their right might would maintain any relationship after someone is charged. In the world of celebrities and politics, they would distance themselves immediately.Urban Ag said:
We both know Trump didn't have control of the DOJ, real control, at any point in his presidency.
The only thing I care about is if Trump maintained ties with Epstein after he was charged in Palm Beach. Doesn't appear that he did.
Me and several long time trusted colleagues worked closely with a guy that was busted for child porn distribution. The FBI literally showed up at our office, the North America flagship, and arrested him. He was immediately fired and ties were cut. We clearly had no idea. One of my buddies helped HR clear out his office and return his stuff to his wife, who promptly filed for divorce.
I would have to imagine that anyone at least 40-50 has been associated with someone, most likely through business, that was a complete POS, maybe even predatory, and had absolutely no idea.
BluHorseShu said:
And if Trump couldn't control the DOJ, that's on him. Its under the executive branch. So either they didn't trust him, respect him, or just chose to continue operating as they had been.