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CPAC took Soros money. Mnuchin and Kushner worked for/or were partners with Soros.

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And they are not running for office, either. If they were, I would be opposed to them.

Happy now?

Goes to Trump's judgment.

Interesting. Trump needs to be careful on his attacks on DeSantis, even his hard core base didn't like it much. Some of them look visibly upset and those are folks who stood out for God knows how many hours to be that close to the podium.

Trump went on a tirade about how DeSantis is one of the worst governors in America. Let’s see how the crowd responded. pic.twitter.com/hrssPlWxWM

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) March 26, 2023

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Interesting. Trump needs to be careful on his attacks on DeSantis, even his hard core base didn't like it much. Some of them look visibly upset and those are folks who stood out for God knows how many hours to be that close to the podium.

Trump went on a tirade about how DeSantis is one of the worst governors in America. Let’s see how the crowd responded. pic.twitter.com/hrssPlWxWM

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) March 26, 2023

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Raise the minimum age?

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At this point, despite all the evidence to the contrary, many of you are just dying for any excuse not to vote for Desantis and still cling on to Trump.

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You are barking up the wrong tree with me. I was a solid Cruz voter in 2016 and was very very slow to come around to Trump before the general. I considered 2016 an election between the evils of two lessers. And in 2016, Rove and the Bushes supported Hillary. That alone should give everyone pause.

And quite frankly, I wish Trump would just go away for awhile. I dislike Rubio because he was a McCain stooge. The company you keep as political bedfellows matter. Cruz and Lee appear to stay above the fray and stay true to their principles more so than other politicians. I would prefer to see them make a run.

But I am open to DeSantis winning me over, if he really wants to run an actual campaign.

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My apologies then, sincerely.

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I hear ya. But you see what Ags77 said. And there's lots of people who will show up to vote against Trump and won't do same with Desantis. I know several.

D and the media will do all they can to demonize whoever is the candidate. The problem with Trump is his antics further add fuel to that fire. Desantis won't put his foot in his mouth like that.

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Agreed. Never underestimate the power of the hate vote.

Trump creates massive spikes in turnout, but those votes aren't all for him. Never Trumpers are just as passionate as hard-core Trumpers themselves.

Not sure if this has been mentioned already, but Desantis would likely safely deliver his home state which the Republicans must hold on to. That's a huge selling point for his candidacy. I think Floridians consider Trump a New Yorker and there's no presidential campaigning up there obviously. If the GOP loses Florida, they would have to get back Pennsylvania and Illinois at least. I think Desantis probably plays better in Pennsylvania.

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Interesting. Trump needs to be careful on his attacks on DeSantis, even his hard core base didn't like it much. Some of them look visibly upset and those are folks who stood out for God knows how many hours to be that close to the podium.

Trump went on a tirade about how DeSantis is one of the worst governors in America. Let’s see how the crowd responded. pic.twitter.com/hrssPlWxWM

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) March 26, 2023

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Raise the minimum age?

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Trump is attacking DeSantis from his Left because DeSantis has shown he is open to raising the SS Age in order to preserve it. Trump wants to pretend all is well and we can just keep going as is with SS and Medicare without reform.

That was really the setup for talking about how DeSantis actually isn't a good Governor of Florida and begged Trump to save him with an endorsement. The silence and awkward hum of the crowd is hard to ignore.

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Interesting. Trump needs to be careful on his attacks on DeSantis, even his hard core base didn't like it much. Some of them look visibly upset and those are folks who stood out for God knows how many hours to be that close to the podium.

Trump went on a tirade about how DeSantis is one of the worst governors in America. Let’s see how the crowd responded. pic.twitter.com/hrssPlWxWM

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) March 26, 2023

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Where are the people who were saying that Trump was just playing 4D chess by slamming DeSantis? There were posts saying, "you all are idiots for falling for this. Trump is just trying to put all the heat on himself to clear the way for DeSantis." Where are these know it alls now?

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Interesting. Trump needs to be careful on his attacks on DeSantis, even his hard core base didn't like it much. Some of them look visibly upset and those are folks who stood out for God knows how many hours to be that close to the podium.

Trump went on a tirade about how DeSantis is one of the worst governors in America. Let’s see how the crowd responded. pic.twitter.com/hrssPlWxWM

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) March 26, 2023

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Lol, Trump just looks dumber by the day.

First, he really does think that he spouts it then his followers will swallow it hook, line, and sinker. No matter how much of a blatant lie it is. Desantis is a horrible governor?

Second, loyalty? You want to talk loyalty, Donald? Let's let your wives speak first.

LOL. He was against states opening up.

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Interesting. Trump needs to be careful on his attacks on DeSantis, even his hard core base didn't like it much. Some of them look visibly upset and those are folks who stood out for God knows how many hours to be that close to the podium.

Trump went on a tirade about how DeSantis is one of the worst governors in America. Let’s see how the crowd responded. pic.twitter.com/hrssPlWxWM

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) March 26, 2023

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Raise the minimum age?

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Trump is attacking DeSantis from his Left because DeSantis has shown he is open to raising the SS Age in order to preserve it. Trump wants to pretend all is well and we can just keep going as is with SS and Medicare without reform.

That was really the setup for talking about how DeSantis actually isn't a good Governor of Florida and begged Trump to save him with an endorsement. The silence and awkward hum of the crowd is hard to ignore.

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Yeah. I was wondering if he misread the teleprompter or if he was siding with Epstein and pals.

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Interesting. Trump needs to be careful on his attacks on DeSantis, even his hard core base didn't like it much. Some of them look visibly upset and those are folks who stood out for God knows how many hours to be that close to the podium.

Trump went on a tirade about how DeSantis is one of the worst governors in America. Let’s see how the crowd responded. pic.twitter.com/hrssPlWxWM

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) March 26, 2023

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Lol, Trump just looks dumber by the day.

First, he really does think that he spouts it then his followers will swallow it hook, line, and sinker. No matter how much of a blatant lie it is. Desantis is a horrible governor?

Second, loyalty? You want to talk loyalty, Donald? Let's let your wives speak first.

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Well, you have a handful of posters on this very board.......

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First, he really does think that he spouts it then his followers will swallow it hook, line, and sinker. No matter how much of a blatant lie it is.

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Yes, he does because that is what they do. We see it posted here. For another site, which in 2016 required a pledge of loyalty to Trump or you were banned, go read Free Republic, especially any thread by the user SoConPubbie.

Just a reminder that Florida is the model to follow.

President Trump is going to try to attack the record of Ron DeSantis - one of the most effective Governors in the history of this country.

Of course, most Floridians would disagree…Especially a Floridian named Donald Trump… bookmark and check this 🧵 regularly for receipts. pic.twitter.com/4Fh6xQVjAF

— Free (@KaladinFree) March 23, 2023

Candidate Trump is attacking Gov DeSantis on education but President Trump praised his action on school choice.

“Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, on the other hand, got 14,000 Florida students off of the waitlists.” pic.twitter.com/wbHD9DdnKM

— Free (@KaladinFree) March 23, 2023

Super 🧵of Trump acknowledging that Desantis led the way in keeping Florida free and open.

Here is Trump acknowledging that Desantis was opening schools before anyone else. pic.twitter.com/4I8vBXjfSO

— Free (@KaladinFree) February 1, 2023

Trump telling Pennsylvanians their state should be more like Florida… pic.twitter.com/sDdT3daODH

— Free (@KaladinFree) February 1, 2023

I can't believe Trump calls himself a loyal person in that video.

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You dont need to wait.

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I don't need to decide right this minute either. No one does.

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I agree, but nor should you hold your dislike of the Bushes against DeSantis.

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Why not? I hold the recipients of Soros money and support against them. Don't trust their agenda. Nor do I trust the agenda of the Bushes and Rove. Is that Ron's agenda? I'm waiting to see more daylight between them on that score.

My saying on F16 is watch which pigs are squealing and what they are squealing about. I pay very little attention to what Trump says anymore, unless it becomes the major story of the week being repeated on loop endlessly.

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The Bushes =/= Soros

I don't care for many of the Bushes' policy positions and their governing philosophy but I still believe they are good people and love this country.

Soros on the other hand, not so much.

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I agree, but nor should you hold your dislike of the Bushes against DeSantis.

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Why not? I hold the recipients of Soros money and support against them. Don't trust their agenda. Nor do I trust the agenda of the Bushes and Rove. Is that Ron's agenda? I'm waiting to see more daylight between them on that score.

My saying on F16 is watch which pigs are squealing and what they are squealing about. I pay very little attention to what Trump says anymore, unless it becomes the major story of the week being repeated on loop endlessly.

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The Bushes =/= Soros

I don't care for many of the Bushes' policy positions and their governing philosophy but I still believe they are good people and love this country.

Soros on the other hand, not so much.

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The Bushes are NWO stooges like all the rest.

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LOL. He was against states opening up.

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I forgot about this one.

The internet really does remember everything.

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LOL. He was against states opening up.

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I forgot about this one.

The internet really does remember everything.

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Yep. One do the benefits of trump being such an undisciplined and impulsive moron is that there's always a tweet/soundbite. Not like his followers will care though.

If Desantis does run you gotta imagine that he'll have at least one campaign commercial that's nothing but clips like those above of Trump praising him.

Did he really say DeSantis has done a bad job with crime in Florida? WTF their rates are at a 50 year low.

Trump has lost it I'm afraid. Dude needs to STFU.

If I recall correctly, Trump was citing the total number of cases instead of doing a per capita adjustment.

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If I recall correctly, Trump was citing the total number of cases instead of doing a per capita adjustment.

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I'm sure he didn't mention the fact that DeSantis is the only governor in the country who has removed a Soros appointed DA, who was probably contributing to running up numbers in his district.

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Interesting. Trump needs to be careful on his attacks on DeSantis, even his hard core base didn't like it much. Some of them look visibly upset and those are folks who stood out for God knows how many hours to be that close to the podium.

Trump went on a tirade about how DeSantis is one of the worst governors in America. Let’s see how the crowd responded. pic.twitter.com/hrssPlWxWM

— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) March 26, 2023

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Yeah, that doesn't help him at all. Sounds incredibly petty and disingenuous given his role in the Covid debacle.

It is also a stark reminder of how poor a speaker Trump is. I can't imagine waiting in lines and standing out in the heat to listen to that. If he and DeSentis ever debate, it isn't going to be pretty for Trump.

Trump: Ron DeSantis "was a disciple of Paul Ryan and that means, that's a bad person, that's a bad person to be a disciple of." pic.twitter.com/26auwY3TrU

— NEWSMAX (@NEWSMAX) March 24, 2023

So great to have the endorsement and support of Paul Ryan. We will both be working very hard to Make America Great Again!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 2, 2016

I'd have to imagine more Trump voters walked into yesterday's rally than walked out pic.twitter.com/zmqc8LS9Q5

— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) March 26, 2023

I hope DeSantis has or is putting together a strong rapid response team to answer to Trump's criticisms like this.

If the Democrats have proven anything, people not fully engaged in politics tend to hear the soundbite and remember it and over time it becomes truth, even when it's not or when there is more to the story.

Honestly, Trump must really be worried to be hitting this hard this early. I guess he wants to try and clear the field early and he thinks this is the best way to do it. He sounds a bit unhinged to me, and not in good command of the facts. One thing is for sure. He has one playbook and it's the only way he knows how to run. DeSantis can use that to his advantage because it's pretty easy to see through and predict.

That right there shows that Trump doesn't even believe the BS he's spewing. He's just angry that Desantis hasn't shown that he's going to stand down this round.

Trump is starting to sound like Biden. Both have lost their minds.

It comes off incredibly arrogant and self serving when Trump claims DeSantis won only because of my endorsement, or beat the Democrat because only because of me. And it sounds like he expects some kind of loyalty oath from anyone he even mildly supports. Kiss the ring or you are automatically a bad person.

A little humility and graciousness can go a long way, and Trump has neither.

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I'd have to imagine more Trump voters walked into yesterday's rally than walked out pic.twitter.com/zmqc8LS9Q5

— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) March 26, 2023

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Ugh, very bad Trump. Dumb and petty for no reason.

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It comes off incredibly arrogant and self serving when Trump claims DeSantis won only because of my endorsement, or beat the Democrat because only because of me. And it sounds like he expects some kind of loyalty oath from anyone he even mildly supports. Kiss the ring or you are automatically a bad person.

A little humility and graciousness can go a long way, and Trump has neither.

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That all describes Trump to a T. People just overlook it.

Trump is quite the history revisionist, lol, but of course the tweets and his own words will set the record straight.

Lockdown Donnie vs Open up Ron 2024

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I'd have to imagine more Trump voters walked into yesterday's rally than walked out pic.twitter.com/zmqc8LS9Q5

— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) March 26, 2023

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Trump's stream of consciousness is something else.

From Florida's success under Rick Scott to the "perfect" Ukraine phone call to the fake news asking DeSantis to run in under a minute.

He really sounds a lot like Biden.

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I'd have to imagine more Trump voters walked into yesterday's rally than walked out pic.twitter.com/zmqc8LS9Q5

— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) March 26, 2023

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Ugh, very bad Trump. Dumb and petty for no reason.

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I saw another comment that encompassed why the crowd was so unresponsive that made perfect sense to me. It also shows why Trump needs to find a new tack and soon if he wants to win this race.

Is there anyone in that crowd yesterday that would rather have had Abbott instead of DeSantis as Governor for the last few years? How about when people in states that had it a lot worse than Texas start asking that same question? Eventually they will.