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they missed the very weird fact that there was this very odd grouping of voters that appreciated Bernie and Trump at the same time (it's a real thing, look it up).

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Not that weird to me. They were both kind of demagogues who came in as party outsiders and made their mark in the debates calling BS on the whole system, saying their opponents were bought and paid for by moneyed interests. Trump also ran on promises of universal health care and punishing companies that moved jobs out of the US to increase profits.

I don't know why nobody seems to remember this. Trump shocked everyone with his results in the rust belt because he was willing to go there and pretend to be 80's-era Michael Moore if that's what they wanted to hear. Nobody else in the Republican field would've done that.

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It's weird that the "everyone's a pedo groomer" people are cool with Nugent, who has several songs with lyrics about his love of underage girls specifically

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A lot of people on here consistently under estimate the NEVER TRUMPERS voting block. Take that enthusiasm away and we may see a more normal turnout on the Dem side .

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I also don't think they will be able to create a monster "overnight" with DeSantis. There isn't going to be a "grab them by the ****y" October surprise.

Yes they will come up with something but right now the "don't say gay" and "Ukraine-Russia conflict is a turf war" does not move the needle with folks.

First of all, most people don't want biological men competing against women. Second, Ukraine is played out and will be REALLY played out by 2024.

The only issue they will hammer him on is his anti-abortion legislation but the majority of people are completely against late term abortions and the pro-abortion crowd was always going to vote Dem. You're not swaying LIV voters with single issue items like abortion.

The average LIV voter will see a spry man in his 40's who turned Florida around versus an old man who falls off his bike, falls off stairs, can't read a teleprompter to save his life and has presided over a stagflation economy as bad as Carter's in the late 70's.

The Dems won't be able to cheat enough to stop the landslide.

Second, Ukraine is played out and will be REALLY played out by 2024.

I doubt that with the Democrats.

The Dems won't be able to cheat enough to stop the landslide.

Uh huh.

You're underestimating their hatred of DeSantis, it will shortly become as bad as their hatred for Trump and you're underestimating how many agencies are in their back pocket and how many people they have pushing the steals. We will see. I'm starting to wonder if we can ever have a fair election again.

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The Dems won't be able to cheat enough to stop the landslide.

Uh huh.

You're underestimating their hatred of DeSantis, it will shortly become as bad as their hatred for Trump and you're underestimating how many agencies are in their back pocket and how many people they have pushing the steals. We will see. I'm starting to wonder if we can ever have a fair election again.

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Honest question: will DeSantis have campaign rallies and will he have thousands attend like Trump?

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Scary thing it Biden didnt and still won.

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Biden didn't "win"

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Mail in ballots and mules for the "win".

Still amazed that the media pushed a lying, pedo, moronic sack of crap into the White House.

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There were so many videos of multiple ballots being mailed to apartment complexes to the same person. If the voting rolls are not accurate it doesn't matter because there are three ballots out there for Joe Klein because he moved twice. Or a ballot for a dead guy ends up in the wrong hands. This is why dems don't want clean voter rolls.

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Honest question: will DeSantis have campaign rallies and will he have thousands attend like Trump?

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I have no idea but I do know the thousands at the rallies for Trump didn't give him a victory last time so if that's the barometer for success it needs recalibration.

I know this is anecdotal but I'll say it anyway. My neighborhood is VERY conservative yet one of my good friends (also an Aggie) confided to me that he and his wife voted Biden and straight ticket Republican down the ballot in 2020.

I tried to convince him not to but he was steadfast...he and his wife were tired of the circus that Trump was leading and wanted it to stop. I think there were a LOT of suburban voters (mostly women) who were tired of mean tweets and wanted it to end.

DeSantis might not generate the circus like rallies Trump has but I guarantee you millions of suburban voters will vote for him that voted against Trump last time.

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I've yelled this for two years on here. We have many conservative friends who did this. I didn't believe this theme at first but absolutely do now. Way more conservatives did this than people on here want to admit.

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Trump increased his vote total over 2016.

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By 11MM votes. Hilary had 66MM in 2016. Do you think that 1/6 Hillary voters changed their mind, or that 2020 and all the ****ing insanity that that year was caused voter participation to be higher in 2020 then it will probably ever be again?

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What doesn't square is the voter registration in spring of 2020. The GOP (trump!) was out-registering the dems 3:1 (4:1 in some states), the Dem primaries actually meant something, trump was unopposed. Yet we are to believe highly enthusiastic feb/mar GOP voters switched to Dem (low energy basement dwelling candidate) in Nov. Oh, ok...sure

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A few things. How many additional voters registered to vote? The GOP adding 200,000 new voters to the voting roll to the Democrats 50,000 barely moves the needle if there are 15 million people registered to vote. Ratios don't matter, raw vote totals do. Depending on the state, not affiliated voters don't vote in party primaries, but they do get to vote in the general election. The data is fairly clear which way independents broke.

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Where did the other 14.75mil come from in your hypothetical? They got registered by mail in October? People going door-to-door getting signatures in the middle of a pandemic...

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I pulled the number out of my ass to make a point about math and why registration ratios aren't the whole story. You were the one that made a claim that the registration should've foretold a Donald Trump victory. Go ahead and show your work. How many people Donald Trump registered to vote versus the Democrats and how that compared to the existing registrations. Unless they were significantly increasing the percentage of voters on the voter roll in the states that it mattered, and you have the work to prove that that they did, saying that registrations are meaningful proxy for who should've won the election isn't a mathematically accurate statement.

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The numbers "out of your ass" fail to make your illustration reasonable. You can't just say the ratio is march is useless because "a large number of registrations makes the march numbers marginalized." What you are saying is hypothetically correct but there is a chain of events that have to occur to make "the large number" exist.

To get "15m" new registrations individual counties have to process new voters. These new voters have to be affirmed through a volunteer registrar who has to be previously vetted by the county clerk.

Voters don't just magically get registered to vote.

I'm not saying this to be combative, I'm simply saying Trump had the ground game in March. Yet we believe Bidens people somehow managed to outwork the massive groundswell by the MAGA-volunteers? The ones that had 8-month and massive numerical headstart?

You want evidence, it's all on states' SOS websites. Hell man, trump outperformed the Democrat field in votes in March, nearly doubling the number of votes in some battleground states. Imagine that Trump beating Beto/biden/bloomberg/sanders/kamala combined...when he is unopposed. Yet we have to believe the Dems 20x their participation when the basement candidate gets nominated?

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You're the one who made the claim. You don't get to send me off to the Secretary of State website to fact check your claim. You can either show your work or you can admit that you were just going off some thing that you vaguely remember reading sometime on some site.

As for the primaries just focus on the battle grounds of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin Arizona, and Georgia. You literally made **** up.

Pennsylvania:
1.5MM D, 1.1MM R

Michigan:
1.6MM D, 670k R

Wisconsin:
924k D, 616k R

Arizona:
Republican primary canceled not valid

Georgia:
1.1MM D, 947k R

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The Dems won't be able to cheat enough to stop the landslide.

Uh huh.

You're underestimating their hatred of DeSantis, it will shortly become as bad as their hatred for Trump and you're underestimating how many agencies are in their back pocket and how many people they have pushing the steals. We will see. I'm starting to wonder if we can ever have a fair election again.

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Annie... I would like to know what in DeSantis life will people hate as much as they hate Trump, as you said ?

Is there some divorces I don't know about ? Examples of infedility ? Has he been on tape bragging about grabbing women by the **** ? Has he had a history of cons that I don't know about ? DeSantis University ? Does he have a half dozen bankruptcies in his past ? Paid porn stars for sex ? Did he follow Faucci's lead and shutdown everything under covid ? Is he currently being investigated in 3 states ? I could go on more, but I think you see my question.

What in his life to date will bring that disdain ? His military service ? His beautiful family ? His wife he stood by in her troubled times ? His accomplishments in Florida ?

Of course the liberal media will attack him. That is a given. But will people hate him as much as Trump , given the ammo Trump provides ?

He will be portrayed bad by the far left and the media, but it will not come close to the hate of Trump, imo. And therefore the turnout will be lower on that side, imo.

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Honest question: will DeSantis have campaign rallies and will he have thousands attend like Trump?

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I have no idea but I do know the thousands at the rallies for Trump didn't give him a victory last time so if that's the barometer for success it needs recalibration.

I know this is anecdotal but I'll say it anyway. My neighborhood is VERY conservative yet one of my good friends (also an Aggie) confided to me that he and his wife voted Biden and straight ticket Republican down the ballot in 2020.

I tried to convince him not to but he was steadfast...he and his wife were tired of the circus that Trump was leading and wanted it to stop. I think there were a LOT of suburban voters (mostly women) who were tired of mean tweets and wanted it to end.

DeSantis might not generate the circus like rallies Trump has but I guarantee you millions of suburban voters will vote for him that voted against Trump last time.

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I've yelled this for two years on here. We have many conservative friends who did this. I didn't believe this theme at first but absolutely do now. Way more conservatives did this than people on here want to admit.

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Trump increased his vote total over 2016.

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By 11MM votes. Hilary had 66MM in 2016. Do you think that 1/6 Hillary voters changed their mind, or that 2020 and all the ****ing insanity that that year was caused voter participation to be higher in 2020 then it will probably ever be again?

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What doesn't square is the voter registration in spring of 2020. The GOP (trump!) was out-registering the dems 3:1 (4:1 in some states), the Dem primaries actually meant something, trump was unopposed. Yet we are to believe highly enthusiastic feb/mar GOP voters switched to Dem (low energy basement dwelling candidate) in Nov. Oh, ok...sure

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A few things. How many additional voters registered to vote? The GOP adding 200,000 new voters to the voting roll to the Democrats 50,000 barely moves the needle if there are 15 million people registered to vote. Ratios don't matter, raw vote totals do. Depending on the state, not affiliated voters don't vote in party primaries, but they do get to vote in the general election. The data is fairly clear which way independents broke.

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Where did the other 14.75mil come from in your hypothetical? They got registered by mail in October? People going door-to-door getting signatures in the middle of a pandemic...

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I pulled the number out of my ass to make a point about math and why registration ratios aren't the whole story. You were the one that made a claim that the registration should've foretold a Donald Trump victory. Go ahead and show your work. How many people Donald Trump registered to vote versus the Democrats and how that compared to the existing registrations. Unless they were significantly increasing the percentage of voters on the voter roll in the states that it mattered, and you have the work to prove that that they did, saying that registrations are meaningful proxy for who should've won the election isn't a mathematically accurate statement.

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The numbers "out of your ass" fail to make your illustration reasonable. You can't just say the ratio is march is useless because "a large number of registrations makes the march numbers marginalized." What you are saying is hypothetically correct but there is a chain of events that have to occur to make "the large number" exist.

To get "15m" new registrations individual counties have to process new voters. These new voters have to be affirmed through a volunteer registrar who has to be previously vetted by the county clerk.

Voters don't just magically get registered to vote.

I'm not saying this to be combative, I'm simply saying Trump had the ground game in March. Yet we believe Bidens people somehow managed to outwork the massive groundswell by the MAGA-volunteers? The ones that had 8-month and massive numerical headstart?

You want evidence, it's all on states' SOS websites. Hell man, trump outperformed the Democrat field in votes in March, nearly doubling the number of votes in some battleground states. Imagine that Trump beating Beto/biden/bloomberg/sanders/kamala combined...when he is unopposed. Yet we have to believe the Dems 20x their participation when the basement candidate gets nominated?

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You're the one who made the claim. You don't get to send me off to the Secretary of State website to fact check your claim. You can either show your work or you can admit that you were just going off some thing that you vaguely remember reading sometime on some site.

As for the primaries just focus on the battle grounds of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin Arizona, and Georgia. You literally made **** up.

Pennsylvania:
1.5MM D, 1.1MM R

Michigan:
1.6MM D, 670k R

Wisconsin:
924k D, 616k R

Arizona:
Republican primary canceled not valid

Georgia:
1.1MM D, 947k R

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Don't primaries of an incumbent show lower turnout because it's really not a primary? Wouldn't many cross over to try and effect a race with their vote? I can see true independents doing that.

Yes, it's entirely expected that there would be fewer Republicans voting in meaningless primary than Democrats who are selecting who is going to defeat Voldemort. Some caveats that there are down ballot races or hot button referendums that might make one state or the other have an unusually high number of Republican voters. But I was responding to a poster that said that Trump's numbers > democrat field, which was easily disproven with 30 seconds of googling.

Annie... I would like to know what in DeSantis life will people hate as much as they hate Trump, as you said ?

Nothing.

But the Democrats will try to destroy him anyway. They've already labeled him as the "don't say gay" guy. And we all know that Bill had nothing to do with that.

The claim he is the fascist and a neo-Nazi, trying to hurt trans people when he's just trying to save children from mutilation. They will claim that he's a book burner when he's just trying to keep sexually explicit books out of schools. They will claim he tried to kill people by not pushing a mask mandate. It goes on and on.

And all the things you listed, had nothing to do with Trump being elected the first time. Presidents, private, and public lives can be very stark.

I know you hate Trump. And that's fine, you can hate him. You don't have to vote for him. You thoight he was a horrible president and hope he never gets back in office again. I truly don't care.

But those weren't the things they didn't like about him. All the sudden, this man who they liked for decades became a racist, anti-gay, anti-women. When he has never been any of those things and still isn't. He was a businessman, and then he became a public personality on television. People completely forget about the 30 years before his show.

Everyone knew his past over the last 40 years we all saw it play out in the media. We knew about his break ups and remarriages.
He wasn't hiding anything.

What really pissed the Democrats off though was that he came in, he beat Hillary. He wasn't a politician and he did a better job than anybody since Reagan. Most of the Republicans hated him for that as well. He broke the rules.

So now that DeSantis is getting all the praise for Florida, as he should, he will become enemy number one or two, and they will try to destroy him

They're already trying to push crap out there.

But again, mudslinging politics, goes back to John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. This isn't anything new.

Democrats these days are not based in any kind of reality. And some of them are literally insane. You add that together with their idiotic, gullible stupid base and they can smear anyone they want regardless of the truth.

They lied about Trump. And they will lie about DeSantis.

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Not that weird to me. They were both kind of demagogues who came in as party outsiders and made their mark in the debates calling BS on the whole system, saying their opponents were bought and paid for by moneyed interests. Trump also ran on promises of universal health care and punishing companies that moved jobs out of the US to increase profits.

I don't know why nobody seems to remember this. Trump shocked everyone with his results in the rust belt because he was willing to go there and pretend to be 80's-era Michael Moore if that's what they wanted to hear. Nobody else in the Republican field would've done that.

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It's totally weird. It makes no sense at all.

These two guys are not only polar opposites ideologically, they are adversaries by policy. Sanders wants to tax and regulate the **** out of people like Trump and Trump wants to eliminate people like Sanders. You cannot support both of these positions at the same time and be taken seriously. They are mutually exclusive.

People that supported both Bernie and Trump have no political compass and think the country is in turmoil because somebody told them that the country is in turmoil. Something must change because this highest standard of living in the world bull**** will not stand. We've had it with all these things we are super mad about but can't really articulate. Enough is enough!

Let's shake up this system! I don't know how... maybe put a hyper-liberal socialist in office or a ****ing game show host who can manage to bankrupt every company he touches? Either way, something must change.

When there's a stain on the carpet, burning down the house is a great option.

Just tuned into his rally. All he is doing is ripping DeSantis.

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Overall theme of this thread: big crowds at rallies are a sign you're going to lose. Wait, what ??

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Rallies in the middle of red states with the same few thousand of attendees who go to all of them mean absolutely nothing in terms of the general election. Trump does them because it fuels his ego.

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Overall theme of this thread: big crowds at rallies are a sign you're going to lose. Wait, what ??

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Rallies in the middle of red states with the same few thousand of attendees who go to all of them mean absolutely nothing in terms of the general election. Trump does them because it fuels his ego.

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It's mystifying the GOP wins anything. If intelligent conservatives like the ones on this board can't recognize Trump is done and will vote for him for spite, or revenge, or to wrong a right, then what chance do we have.
The dems never do this by the way. They got behind biden lock stock and barrel. Never questioned it. They recognized he had the best chance out of their pathetic group who were running and immediately got behind him.
Here we legitimately have an amazing conservative leader, who would most like wipe the floor with any dem in the general, and we're going to nominate a guy who literally can't win anything anymore.
It's madness!

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I don't think Trump will get the nom. Let's let it play out.

There's a reason DeSantis isn't in the race yet.

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Rallies in the middle of red states with the same few thousand of attendees who go to all of them mean absolutely nothing in terms of the general election. Trump does them because it fuels his ego.

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100%…and his son's, and Dinesh Desouzas, and Ted Nugent's, and Kim Guilfoyle's etc etc etc

Remember when "2000 mules" came out, and instead of plastering his "smoking gun evidence of election fraud" all over the internet, Dinesh instead SOLD it? For like $20 each?

Grifters, man.

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Annie... I would like to know what in DeSantis life will people hate as much as they hate Trump, as you said ?

Nothing.

But the Democrats will try to destroy him anyway. They've already labeled him as the "don't say gay" guy. And we all know that Bill had nothing to do with that.

The claim he is the fascist and a neo-Nazi, trying to hurt trans people when he's just trying to save children from mutilation. They will claim that he's a book burner when he's just trying to keep sexually explicit books out of schools. They will claim he tried to kill people by not pushing a mask mandate. It goes on and on.

And all the things you listed, had nothing to do with Trump being elected the first time. Presidents, private, and public lives can be very stark.

I know you hate Trump. And that's fine, you can hate him. You don't have to vote for him. You thoight he was a horrible president and hope he never gets back in office again. I truly don't care.

But those weren't the things they didn't like about him. All the sudden, this man who they liked for decades became a racist, anti-gay, anti-women. When he has never been any of those things and still isn't. He was a businessman, and then he became a public personality on television. People completely forget about the 30 years before his show.

Everyone knew his past over the last 40 years we all saw it play out in the media. We knew about his break ups and remarriages.
He wasn't hiding anything.

What really pissed the Democrats off though was that he came in, he beat Hillary. He wasn't a politician and he did a better job than anybody since Reagan. Most of the Republicans hated him for that as well. He broke the rules.

So now that DeSantis is getting all the praise for Florida, as he should, he will become enemy number one or two, and they will try to destroy him

They're already trying to push crap out there.

But again, mudslinging politics, goes back to John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. This isn't anything new.

Democrats these days are not based in any kind of reality. And some of them are literally insane. You add that together with their idiotic, gullible stupid base and they can smear anyone they want regardless of the truth.

They lied about Trump. And they will lie about DeSantis.

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I don't disagree at all that they will try. I'm saying it's MUCH HARDER than Trump makes it. Thats all

And Annie88.. I appreciate your answering and you know I don't have a problem with you voting for trump.

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Overall theme of this thread: big crowds at rallies are a sign you're going to lose. Wait, what ??

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Rallies in the middle of red states with the same few thousand of attendees who go to all of them mean absolutely nothing in terms of the general election. Trump does them because it fuels his ego.

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And lines his pocketbook no doubt

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100%…and his son's, and Dinesh Desouzas, and Ted Nugent's, and Kim Guilfoyle's etc etc etc

Remember when "2000 mules" came out, and instead of plastering his "smoking gun evidence of election fraud" all over the internet, Dinesh instead SOLD it? For like $20 each?

Grifters, man.

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Yep, and you can add Kari Lake to that list of scumbags too. They do know how to take advantage of idiots though.

https://www.deseret.com/2023/1/27/23574608/kari-lake-hasnt-conceded-but-the-republican-has-raised-millions-of-dollars

https://savearizonafund.com/

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Just tuned into his rally. All he is doing is ripping DeSantis.

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That's not all he's doing. You mean you tuned in when he ras ripping DeSantis.

Oh hell yes. There's a **** ton of money to be made selling the same narrative to the same people over and over again

I'm 49
I've voted in every general since I was 18
I have voted R every time with the only exception being a few judges that were out of control so I voted for the libertarian


I've never been to a political rally in my life
Not one

No reason to start now.

Either way he's making an ass of himself, once again, trashing the best conservative governor in America

Sigh

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Either way he's making an ass of himself, once again, trashing the best conservative governor in America

Sigh

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Such a turn off. Hopefully I'm not the only one who feels that way.

I love conservatives
I also love guns

I haven't been to a gun show inn20 years because I learned the people at gun shows are a little, uh, more in to guns that I am

If that makes sense

Same approach to political rallies

Now imagine the gun show charges admission, then charges you to look at the guns…then sends you emails afterwards asking you for money to protect gun rights

Florida crime is out of control and Florida did poorly on Covid. South Dakota did better than Florida. DeSantis came crying to Trump begging for his endorsement. Trump felt bad for him and decided to endorse him and got DeSantis elected. DeSantis took over a state that was already doing great, it's not anything DeSantis did. He's not a big fan of him because he wasn't loyal by not clearing saying he won't run against Trump. And he's a disciple of Paul Ryan.

I learned these things about DeSantis listening to Trump just now.

I'm really glad you added that last sentence

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Annie... I would like to know what in DeSantis life will people hate as much as they hate Trump, as you said ?

Nothing.

But the Democrats will try to destroy him anyway. They've already labeled him as the "don't say gay" guy. And we all know that Bill had nothing to do with that.

The claim he is the fascist and a neo-Nazi, trying to hurt trans people when he's just trying to save children from mutilation. They will claim that he's a book burner when he's just trying to keep sexually explicit books out of schools. They will claim he tried to kill people by not pushing a mask mandate. It goes on and on.

And all the things you listed, had nothing to do with Trump being elected the first time. Presidents, private, and public lives can be very stark.

I know you hate Trump. And that's fine, you can hate him. You don't have to vote for him. You thoight he was a horrible president and hope he never gets back in office again. I truly don't care.

But those weren't the things they didn't like about him. All the sudden, this man who they liked for decades became a racist, anti-gay, anti-women. When he has never been any of those things and still isn't. He was a businessman, and then he became a public personality on television. People completely forget about the 30 years before his show.

Everyone knew his past over the last 40 years we all saw it play out in the media. We knew about his break ups and remarriages.
He wasn't hiding anything.

What really pissed the Democrats off though was that he came in, he beat Hillary. He wasn't a politician and he did a better job than anybody since Reagan. Most of the Republicans hated him for that as well. He broke the rules.

So now that DeSantis is getting all the praise for Florida, as he should, he will become enemy number one or two, and they will try to destroy him

They're already trying to push crap out there.

But again, mudslinging politics, goes back to John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. This isn't anything new.

Democrats these days are not based in any kind of reality. And some of them are literally insane. You add that together with their idiotic, gullible stupid base and they can smear anyone they want regardless of the truth.

They lied about Trump. And they will lie about DeSantis.

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I don't disagree at all that they will try. I'm saying it's MUCH HARDER than Trump makes it. Thats all

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But it really won't be harder. Look at what they're already saying about him. It's just going to get worse.

The fact that Trump has a worse moral character than DeSantis isn't even in the equation for them.

It simply doesn't matter. They clung to what they could with Trump and they will cling with what they can with DeSantis. They just won't be able to go as hard on the personal issues. It won't be as hard as you think.

I guess we will find out if it works on Desantis as much. The proof will be in the voters hands about which candidate they hate most.