Zobel said:

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Like I said. Something rigorous.

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GL with that. No one wants to touch this sh**. You're casted out as a pariah if you do or say the wrong things, or question those who told us it was completely safe and would keep you from catching Covid and would also prevent transmission. You can't question these people if you are high profile and want to keep you job.

There have been some pretty heavy hitters writing papers and making statements that the bivalent vaccines aren't worth it, and that boosters for kids have diminishing returns for increased risks. I don't believe that there's a pariah issue. There's a pariah issue for junk science, and then those people cry censorship.

And that's why there are people saying that where we're at today, there's a declining benefit to boosters. Based on data. That goes against what you're saying about censorship.

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And that's why there are people saying that where we're at today, there's a declining benefit to boosters. Based on data. That goes against what you're saying about censorship.

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So you're saying that because people are saying there is a declining benefit to boosters, that means that there is no censorship?

If there were censorship, the half baked papers y'all keep dredging up wouldn't be published, and podcasts that are explicitly anti-vaccine wouldn't be huge. You wouldn't have read a published article that mentions graphene. And yeah, if there was an explicit big pharma control, there wouldn't be credible dissenting voices talking about the reduction in benefit from boosters and the new bivalent vaccines. Because it would be censored.

Zobel said:

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If there were censorship, the half baked papers y'all keep dredging up wouldn't be published, and podcasts that are explicitly anti-vaccine wouldn't be huge. You wouldn't have read a published article that mentions graphene. And yeah, if there was an explicit big pharma control, there wouldn't be credible dissenting voices talking about the reduction in benefit from boosters and the new bivalent vaccines. Because it would be censored.

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All you wrote here is patently untrue. Censorship doesn't work that way and never has.

#Alabama running back Ahmaad Galloway passes away at age 42https://t.co/zW2lmSBIBR pic.twitter.com/Ay7Womd58y

— BamaOnLine (@BamaOnLine247) January 12, 2023

Yesterday, Logan Holgate died of a cardiac event. He was 18.

2 days ago, Jordan Brister died of a cardiac event. He was 18.

3 days ago, Hunter Brown died of a cardiac event. He was 21.

Our children are dying suddenly every day now.

— Emerald Robinson ✝️ (@EmeraldRobinson) January 12, 2023

Chris Pronger, kinda sorta a problem with a hockey puck but nevertheless a heart problem.

Zobel said:

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If there were censorship, the half baked papers y'all keep dredging up wouldn't be published, and podcasts that are explicitly anti-vaccine wouldn't be huge. You wouldn't have read a published article that mentions graphene. And yeah, if there was an explicit big pharma control, there wouldn't be credible dissenting voices talking about the reduction in benefit from boosters and the new bivalent vaccines. Because it would be censored.

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Have you tried to search anything on Google that's suspect of the party line? I have. The first few results support the narrative, then you get results about misinformation and maybe you can find something relevant on the 3rd or 4th page.

This is censorship.

The Green Dragon said:

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Zobel said:

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If there were censorship, the half baked papers y'all keep dredging up wouldn't be published, and podcasts that are explicitly anti-vaccine wouldn't be huge. You wouldn't have read a published article that mentions graphene. And yeah, if there was an explicit big pharma control, there wouldn't be credible dissenting voices talking about the reduction in benefit from boosters and the new bivalent vaccines. Because it would be censored.

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Have you tried to search anything on Google that's suspect of the party line? I have. The first few results support the narrative, then you get results about misinformation and maybe you can find something relevant on the 3rd or 4th page.

This is censorship.

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Spot on here...look at what happened at Twitter once Musk took over. The actual trending topics were finally "trending" instead of the BS narrative hashtags being coded to the top.

https://www.fox21news.com/news/local/cc-student-tennis-player-dies-in-his-sleep-at-home/

Ahmadd Galloway, age 42 former Alabama running back. Found. dead in his apartment. This is becoming quite alarming, and it's only going to get worse.

why is this list limited to athletes?

BREAKING. Lisa Marie Presley dead at 54 after suffering cardiac arrest according to TMZ. #LisaMariePresley #RIP pic.twitter.com/HuHb1sx7H4

— Josh Benson (@WFLAJosh) January 13, 2023

There are about 1,000 cardiac arrest events a day (about 55/day of them being under the age of 45) dating back prior to Covid. One study from 2014 to 2018 showed 331 cases among athletes from middle school to pro level, about 1/week, experiencing cardiac arrest (average age was 16.7 years old).

Have we really seen any uptick in that number, or is everyone just more aware?

txaggie_08 said:

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Have we really seen any uptick in that number, or is everyone just more aware?

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we're not supposed to ask or try to find out.

I mean she was a big time drug abuser and her family had a history of cardiac events

txaggie_08 said:

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There are about 1,000 cardiac arrest events a day (about 55/day of them being under the age of 45) dating back prior to Covid. One study from 2014 to 2018 showed 331 cases among athletes from middle school to pro level, about 1/week, experiencing cardiac arrest (average age was 16.7 years old).

Have we really seen any uptick in that number, or is everyone just more aware?

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5 fold increase in cardiac events in Euro FIFA players in 2021, from the normal baseline. Link is somewhere above.

txaggie_08 said:

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There are about 1,000 cardiac arrest events a day (about 55/day of them being under the age of 45) dating back prior to Covid. One study from 2014 to 2018 showed 331 cases among athletes from middle school to pro level, about 1/week, experiencing cardiac arrest (average age was 16.7 years old).

Have we really seen any uptick in that number, or is everyone just more aware?

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A great question to ask. Seems like the medical community would want to find out for sure. But the it's not socially acceptable to ask that question. It's only socially acceptable to state that the vaccine definitely doesn't have anything to do with it.

In Sept. 2021, President Biden declared a “pandemic of the unvaccinated.”

About 79% of US adults completed at least their initial shots. A recent @CDCgov data find the majority of adults dying of #COVID19 are vaccinated or boosted. https://t.co/EZP2ONQPdM

— The Epoch Times (@EpochTimes) January 13, 2023

Lol! But yeah, I'm a conspiracy theorist. Batting 1.000

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2023/01/13/cdc-fda-pfizer-bivalent-vaccine-possible-strokes-00077933

damiond said:

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why is this list limited to athletes?

BREAKING. Lisa Marie Presley dead at 54 after suffering cardiac arrest according to TMZ. #LisaMariePresley #RIP pic.twitter.com/HuHb1sx7H4

— Josh Benson (@WFLAJosh) January 13, 2023

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Well she hadn't had the healthiest of lives, despite being wealthy

https://vaers.hhs.gov/data/datasets.html

"You conspiraloons need to realize this has always been normal. You're just hearing about it more because you're seeking it. 16 year olds die from heart attack or stroke quite frequently actually". /octuple vaxxed and boosted white liberal male feminists

https://www.instagram.com/p/CnKdoLtPI_C/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

Evel Knievel son Robby just died.

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Evel Knievel son Robby just died.

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Pancreatic cancer

I was promoted to director prior to the Covid shutdown.

Shortly after that our new CEO released their 2020 goals. Goal #1 was to promote/hire a female for a director or above position in every business unit in the company. What did that mean for me? By years end I was demoted and placed under a new female leader. No reason given but I was powerless to do anything about it bc of the market.

Then the vaccines start and we're ridiculed for being stupid and not getting vaccinated in a team meeting with this person. I transfer asap to a different dept. Then they try to force vaccination or get fired. Luckily, the rescind that shortly before the deadline but there are endless meetings/reminders trying to force the vax. I'm no longer there and much happier but I'll never forgive and never forget this bull***** My wife's job was threatened as well. Shortly after we moved across the country for it, she was pulled into HR and told to show her vax card, wear a mask, or she would be walked out immediately. She's not there anymore either.

On top of that I had former friends/family members making claims to me that I was putting my kids life in danger bc we wouldn't get vaxxed. "What will you do if he dies of Covid bc you won't get vaxxed?" There's no mention that most of them are type 2 diabetic and fatter than **** and me and my family eat well and workout 6 days a week. That doesn't matter.

All of this to say I agree with you completely. These people are dead to me. I hate these people. I will never bend, never forgive, and never forget. I'll never not hate them. They wanted a line drawn. It's drawn. My career mission is to slowly break that company until there is no one left in my field there.

Very similar story to yours. Seeing the weaponization of tens of millions of useful idiot lemmings motivated me to add to my pew pew collection. I now buy ammo pretty much any time I step foot in an Academy. Many of these people wanted us ruined or even dead…over nothing…polls pretty much show that. Never forgive or forget.

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I was promoted to director prior to the Covid shutdown.

Shortly after that our new CEO released their 2020 goals. Goal #1 was to promote/hire a female for a director or above position in every business unit in the company. What did that mean for me? By years end I was demoted and placed under a new female leader. No reason given but I was powerless to do anything about it bc of the market.

Then the vaccines start and we're ridiculed for being stupid and not getting vaccinated in a team meeting with this person. I transfer asap to a different dept. Then they try to force vaccination or get fired. Luckily, the rescind that shortly before the deadline but there are endless meetings/reminders trying to force the vax. I'm no longer there and much happier but I'll never forgive and never forget this bull***** My wife's job was threatened as well. Shortly after we moved across the country for it, she was pulled into HR and told to show her vax card, wear a mask, or she would be walked out immediately. She's not there anymore either.

On top of that I had former friends/family members making claims to me that I was putting my kids life in danger bc we wouldn't get vaxxed. "What will you do if he dies of Covid bc you won't get vaxxed?" There's no mention that most of them are type 2 diabetic and fatter than **** and me and my family eat well and workout 6 days a week. That doesn't matter.

All of this to say I agree with you completely. These people are dead to me. I hate these people. I will never bend, never forgive, and never forget. I'll never not hate them. They wanted a line drawn. It's drawn. My career mission is to slowly break that company until there is no one left in my field there.

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Great post and I wish you success in crippling that company.

Ashari Hughes 16 year old basketball player. Collapsed on the court, sent to bench. Chest pains, defibrillator used, taken to hospital, dead on arrival.

1. This was over a week ago, and already discussed on this board.

2. Idk whether or not she played basketball, but regardless the incident happened while she was playing flag football, not on a basketball court.

3. The coroner gave the following cause of death: "The Clark County coroner explained that it was an "anomalous origin of right coronary artery from left coronary sinus of Valsalva." Though it was sudden, it was from natural causes. Interestingly, it is considerably rarer as it exists in less than three-percent of congenital coronary anomalies."

I don't know what that means, or if it could possibly be caused by the vaccine. Doesn't really sound like it to me. And I'm skeptical this 16 years old was vaxxed.

IDK if it's caused by the vaccine, but if it's heart related death I would like an investigation. I would NEVER claim that it was, and I understand **** happens and has happened throughout history. But I want an investigation.

Was she vaccinated, when was the last time she was boosted, if so?